I'm done with drugs for ahwile.

[thekingofNY]

You got this bro.

I have not been smoking or drinking lately. Just got to a point in my life where I wanted more out of it. I realize that I am not going to achieve my goals if I am high all the time. I will never be as healthy as I want to be if I have 3 or 4 beers every other night. Once you decide to make the change, it isn't hard at all. I still hang out with my friends who smoke and I still grow and have pounds sitting right next to me. Not a big deal. I don't plan on going completely sober, I just want to take a good break and then cut it all back to once and a while. Some people won't be able to do the once and a while thing and will get sucked back in. You know your body and your mindset, do what is best for you.

pico

I couldnt have said it any better.... to the original poster ^5 bro... I am on day 2/3 myself, i think u are on day 3 or 4 depending on how u look at it.

I cleaned out 2 of my glass pipes today and didnt even have any desire to use them, freskly cleaned.... I am soo happy with myself for being able to do this, Like pico i have fresh herb around here, and hash, and I haven't touched it.

I have found a daily walk to be very nice and relaxing....Although I sure am getting bored... or rather have been bored for the past few weeks now since harvest.

 

[blazabud]

I've been on high levels of Valium for over 5 months and oxycondone as well. I have not had any oxycondone as i took too many and ran out about a week and half ago. I just my new month script today for another fill. I have serious back problems. I've been on valium as was on 40mg a day for awhile, my new doctor brought me down and now i'm on 25mg a day. Next month I'm going to try 20mg a day. While I was on 20mg a day of oxy, I still have a terrible withdraw even though i was on valium which makes withdraw easier. When i get my months worth, I'll set aside 22 or 44 pills are recerve. I did that last month, then when I ran out, I couldn't stop, so i went though all of those. Aside from the back pain, it also takes away lifes pain and makes you not care about anything bothering you.

Withdraw was terrible, I had no desire to eat and become really depressed when i don't take it as all my troubles come back to me all at once. I'm lucky I am on valium or my withdraw would have been be worse.

Sadly my back condition continues to get worse and my tolerance is building up, I'm seeing my back sergon on the 11th to discuss my recent mylogram and catscan to see what else they found wrong. Just going to lead to more pain killers and more of an addicting. But I can't having pain serve enough not to take them.

But to those who take pills just for fun, Dont do them every day, space it out maybe once or twice a week. I can't go without Valium or i go crazy.

Bigbud,

Valium ain't really gonna make that much difference to you if you are rattling off the Oxy. You might get a bit of a reprieve if you were taking Valium for the first time in years but you been on 40mg a day. They won't do shit. I was necking zopiclone, moggies, and valium last time I tried to kick the buprenorphine but I was using them all the time so it didn't touch me. The only gear I know of that will guarantee sleep and, therefore, a reprieve from the rattle, is Clonadine. Dunno what they call that in the USA? That's what detox units use over here. Benzos will never help if the user has a habit already, regardless of whether they are prescribed. Sure it will be worse if you don't have either. That isn't a pretty picture. If you could have a break from the benzos though, they will help more to get off the Oxy. For pain it will help if you can shed the habits now and then. Tolerance drops off really quick so it is worth doing. Better all round.

Update.Its day 2 or 3 of me being sober I dont remember when I quit lol.Anyways I went to the doc today two get some tests done and I told them my back was hurting.This doctor know's that I am already on hydrocodone but she prescribed me Tramadol for my back pain(they just want me to get high).I am tihnking of just giving these away.I know when I see these pills I start going nuts thinking about taking them and getting high.

Good on ya igrowdankest. Those Tramadol have got SSRI(like Prozac and that) in them as well as the codeine. I got prescribed them years ago after I broke a bone. I was getting through too many df's so they relegated me to them. I couldn't stand them. It was like the worst, roughest, speed with a trace of a hit. I was too spaced out on them. I told the doctor and he said it was the ssri. They don't freak everyone though. All those ones like prozac don't agree with me at all. I can see how people can flip out or become dependent on those reuptake inhibitor drugs. They use one of them for people giving up smoking called Zyban. Apparently a few hapless souls dropped down stone dead on them. They only had nicotine habits. Fuck all that eh.

Stick at it yeah. It is worth doing.

bb

 

[Afghanicus]

This doctor know's that I am already on hydrocodone but she prescribed me Tramadol for my back pain

beware of this stuff, it is poison. Especially if you are taking antidepressants. Can cause very severe adverse reactions. I was as sick as a dog for days after taking some while on fluoxetine. Just be careful of this drug.

 

[blazabud]

beware of this stuff, it is poison. Especially if you are taking antidepressants. Can cause very severe adverse reactions. I was as sick as a dog for days after taking some while on fluoxetine. Just be careful of this drug.

Well said Afghanicus. They are addictive, a really rough hit, and seem to kill people randomly. If you were on Fluoxetine, it is no wonder they messed with you. The Tramadol have antidepressant in them. Any of those family of antidepressants are bad news IMO. Venlofaxin is another one. Horrendous stuff. Wires you to the moon. You take Tramadol on top of any reuptake inhibitor and you are risking having a seizure.

bb

 

[igrowdadankest]

Update.I am sober and it SUCKS.Not becouse I am not high but becouse my damned body is cramping all over.I woke up with a horrible cramp in my calve and I cant walk very good right now becouse of that.I also am getting cramps everwere else on my body.To tell you the truth I dont know If I can go too much longer without my Marijuana.

If I do start again soon,I wont be doing other drugs.(atleast I am going to try not to)

 

[earth habitant.]

Update.I am sober and it SUCKS.Not becouse I am not high but becouse my damned body is cramping all over.I woke up with a horrible cramp in my calve and I cant walk very good right now becouse of that.I also am getting cramps everwere else on my body.To tell you the truth I dont know If I can go too much longer without my Marijuana.

If I do start again soon,I wont be doing other drugs.(atleast I am going to try not to)

fuck man only weed or some mushrooms not heroin or that kind of shit >.<

try yoga and search info about breathing relax exercices, spycologist use them for inducing states of mind like drugs do.
peace!

loving ganja

 

[igrowdadankest]

fuck man only weed or some mushrooms not heroin or that kind of shit >.<

try yoga and search info about breathing relax exercices, spycologist use them for inducing states of mind like drugs do.
peace!

loving ganja

Hey there friend,I would try and do some yoga but my mobility is limited.I am not disabled but its just hard to get around alot.I have had a nuerological problem with my muscles for around 2-3 years now.I have not been diagnosed yet. I am going to get anoth CT done.That is going to happen this Wednsday.



I just recieved 1.1 grams of Med quility Marijuana,I am going to smoke this for the sake of my muscle spasms,cramps,and pain.I will also enjoy the head change.


The "hard drugs" is what I meant.I have done alot of them and I was once pretty addicted to Cocaine.It was about 7=8 years back and I was on it for about a year or so and got off with the help of another drug.Thankfully I didnt get addicted to that one.I still have if you could call it these flashbacks from the Cocaine usage.I will get the drip&smell in my nose and it can bug the hell outta me.

 

[Afghanicus]

Quote"Well said Afghanicus. They are addictive, a really rough hit, and seem to kill people randomly. If you were on Fluoxetine, it is no wonder they messed with you. The Tramadol have antidepressant in them. Any of those family of antidepressants are bad news IMO. Venlofaxin is another one. Horrendous stuff. Wires you to the moon. You take Tramadol on top of any reuptake inhibitor and you are risking having a seizure."

yes i know realise how bad it is and found out a number of deaths have been atributed to this drug mainly due to interactions with other drugs. Its a bizarre drug indeed and affects the brain in many unknown ways. What i experienced was extreme nausia with vomitting which lasted at least 24 hours. Dizziness, feeling like i was going to pass out, and a cold feverish feeling all over my body which lasted for at least three days. Total messed me up. I couldn't eat or anything for days i was so sick in the stomach and my head was spinning. Probably should have went to hospital, i nearly did a few times but managed to wait it out till i recovered.

 

[blazabud]

Quote"Well said Afghanicus. They are addictive, a really rough hit, and seem to kill people randomly. If you were on Fluoxetine, it is no wonder they messed with you. The Tramadol have antidepressant in them. Any of those family of antidepressants are bad news IMO. Venlofaxin is another one. Horrendous stuff. Wires you to the moon. You take Tramadol on top of any reuptake inhibitor and you are risking having a seizure."

yes i know realise how bad it is and found out a number of deaths have been atributed to this drug mainly due to interactions with other drugs. Its a bizarre drug indeed and affects the brain in many unknown ways. What i experienced was extreme nausia with vomitting which lasted at least 24 hours. Dizziness, feeling like i was going to pass out, and a cold feverish feeling all over my body which lasted for at least three days. Total messed me up. I couldn't eat or anything for days i was so sick in the stomach and my head was spinning. Probably should have went to hospital, i nearly did a few times but managed to wait it out till i recovered.

Yeah that sounds like them. I can't work out why they see fit to mix the pain killer with the SSRI? I doubt that every practitioner knows what exactly is in the Tramadol so people will continue to be prescribed them without being warned to look for contraindications if they are taking other meds. I was prescribed them while they were also trying to get me hooked on this nasty stuff called Venlofaxin. It is a SNRI (Selective Noradrenalin Reuptake Inhibitor). They were really disagreeing with me but I didn't know that the Tramadol had anything similar in them (Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitor)? One Saturday morning, I was getting ready to go camping with my young son and missus (ex now). I had taken a few of the Tramadol. I went to make a cup of tea in the kitchen and my missus said she heard a bang. I dunno what happened cos I blacked out. Next thing I know I was on the floor by the front door of our flat with 2 ambulance people standing over me and my ex stood there bawling her eyes out. They said I had a fit. I know it was down to those pills. That's why I know about them. I looked them up on Erowid and saw they had the nasty shit in them. Fucking things nearly killed me. My ex had enough too. My using had split us up loads so she couldn't handle it all no more. That was the final straw.

Just shows you, it doesn't matter where the gear comes from, if you are an addict, it will fuck you up in the end. That really shit me up and I haven't really abused pharm gear again. I got on a script for the opiates and don't even fuck about with that anymore.I am sick of the buprenorphine. Even that is dodgy. They should use opium for addicts. Much easier to get off. These Subutex are a nightmare to get off. They hang about in you for ages so the rattle lasts for ever.

The only gear which is relatively benign enough for me to get high on is herb that I've grown.

Hey there friend,I would try and do some yoga but my mobility is limited.I am not disabled but its just hard to get around alot.I have had a nuerological problem with my muscles for around 2-3 years now.I have not been diagnosed yet. I am going to get anoth CT done.That is going to happen this Wednsday.



I just recieved 1.1 grams of Med quility Marijuana,I am going to smoke this for the sake of my muscle spasms,cramps,and pain.I will also enjoy the head change.


The "hard drugs" is what I meant.I have done alot of them and I was once pretty addicted to Cocaine.It was about 7=8 years back and I was on it for about a year or so and got off with the help of another drug.Thankfully I didnt get addicted to that one.I still have if you could call it these flashbacks from the Cocaine usage.I will get the drip&smell in my nose and it can bug the hell outta me.

Yeah, stick with the herb igrowthedankest. Charlie will get you in all sorts of trouble and you are lucky that your year on it obviously didn't prove too consequential. Those plants look good but won't they hermie getting that light during the night?



bb

 

[Young Giver]

You have all the support you could ever ask for, yourself. As far as marijuana being considered a drug is insane. Shouldnt even be seen next 2 those other drugs...

 

[nycdfan042]

fuck man only weed or some mushrooms not heroin or that kind of shit >.<

try yoga and search info about breathing relax exercices, spycologist use them for inducing states of mind like drugs do.
peace!

loving ganja

^^ that guylooks really comfortable in that position!!!!!!!!

 

[earth habitant.]

igrowdadankest: bro! ask for the strongest buds a lot of heroin users rehab with cannabis so you should also can! be strong my friend

oh oh almost forget search about breathing techniques very useful, theare are a lot of profesionals that guied you through the exercises, my mamy is medic




nycdfan042 a friend doing some kind of sex positions to my plants let see what sproud of this human plant hybrid ...

...lol what is that ice o lator or some kind of resin extracted with gas? definitely look very tasty ..ummm what strain is made of???

...


a funny picture of my Chi wua wua x Unknown dog she is a female and she likes to sleep in the trough of my old dog. ...Oh and she likes to eat the leafs in the bottom of my cannabis plants ...¬¬ lol need to give a spanking near the plants hope she will stop eating them



...igrowdadankest hope you get well!!

 

[thekingofNY]

Alright I wasn't going to say anything, but this is pissing me off....

Ultram/Tramadol/Ultracet is NOT an SSRI and does NOT contain any SSRI's.... its a semi-synthetic opiod that is not a controlled substance. Yes it is believed to work on some of the same receptors as SSRI's, but it does NOT CONTAIN ANY SSRI's or anti depressants.

I really can't stand the spread of misinformation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tramadol

However you guys were fairly accurate that is does cause lots of major contradictions with many other rx's.... check with your pharmacist or go to walgreens.com and u can check drug interactions via selecting ultram and other med's you're on.

 

[igrowdadankest]

Just a small update to being "drug" free.


I have not done any drugs to get high,besides Marijuana since I started this.I have took some pain meds for my back though but I didnt take them to get high.

Again thanks for all the support.

 

[del...]

congratulations! i too need my pain meds to function well but cannabis greatly reduces the amount needed and even my pain management doc is finally coming around to understanding its benefits...altho i still need to see another doc (an std doctor, no less...lol) to get my state papers signed!

good luck

 

[igrowdadankest]

Work you damned computer!!!!!!




Anyone know what you online is out of space on line 12 or something like that.maybe it says your computer is full of memory on line 12.I dont know but it wont let me do nothing on the internet now it let me post finally.

 

[southflorida]

good job...igrow....stick to the sticky green buds....peace

 

[Afghanicus]

Ultram/Tramadol/Ultracet is NOT an SSRI and does NOT contain any SSRI's.... its a semi-synthetic opiod that is not a controlled substance. Yes it is believed to work on some of the same receptors as SSRI's, but it does NOT CONTAIN ANY SSRI's or anti depressants.

kingofNY i never did say it is an SSRI, go back and read my posts. NO misinformation. But it interacts with SSRIs to mess you up big time. If you want to die or get messed up big time then mix tramadol with SSRI.

 

[Afghanicus]

PS: i just worked out how to recieve and access reputation. I'm so slow, haha. thanks to all those who gave me some positive comments by the way.

 

[dude06version]

the only thing i had a problem with was paxil...i went to a psychiatrist for help with social anxiety, figuring he would be able to help me out..he asked me like 15 questions then wrote me a prescription for paxil, like wtf..after acouple months on that i just quit cold turkey.had the worst nightmares, like i was actually scared to go to sleep because of the nightmares.also had these horrible head zaps that made me want to die. those kind of drugs are evil plan and simple..most of the people who snap and kill a bunch of people are always on them.. and it turns out that chimp that snapped on that lady and ripped her face of was being feed prozaic. i did lmao when i found that out,sick i know but its funny..but why the hell would you give a monkey prozaic..weed helps me out alot more than paxil ever did.. and when i run out i dont feel like dying.... goodluck man im sure the stuff your on is alot harder than paxil, but i know slightly what your going through.. if weed was made legal tomorrow it would be a matter of years before all the makers of paxils and prozaics go out of business..hopefully it happens in my lifetime..remember moderation should be your goal.all things in moderation....