Bud Rot... AGAIN

[zachrockbadenof]

we have a few of rez's chem's in flower, looking good... until... 3 days of rain... yesterday, saw some of the dreaded 'bud-rot'

clipped the buds with the rot, and then cut out the rot and letting them dry..

have sprayed twice last 2 weeks with green-cure, and yesterday sprayed with seranade....

i would like to get another 2, poss 3 weeks of growing... any suggestions???

 

[bagseed77]

its starting to rain here too , my trick is to never spray a bud with anything to keep bud rot away , i messed up and watered the whole plant once and had major problems, so i keep the buds as dry as possible now.good luck and do you have pics

 

[smokeyMcPOT]

I'm kind of in your situation. Last week I seen the kids and was one VERY small spot of ROT. Cut it out and didn't see any else. Then 3 days of rain. Not that we needed it to get the topdress of nutes I did washed into the ground for emBUT we didnt need 2 1/2" of it. SO I'll be visiting them today and we'll see how things look. I'm not really wanting to spray them with anything cuz I'm like you are, 2-3 weeks and we'll be gettin close to harvest.

SO TO SPRAY OR NOT TO SPRAY!!! I'm gonna say yes!!

I think in 3 weeks most of or all of the spray would have washed off for the most part and shouldn't have anything to worry about. I use a 3-1 Fungus, mite, insect organic spray from Garden Safe I believe. So as with any outdoor grow....WE'LL SEE. So many factors for harvesting a good outdoor crop. Bugs, mold, animals, rippers, etc etc GOOD LUCK ALL!!! I'll post pics in my thread later this morning

 

[Ickis]

I sprayed GreenCure once a week when no rain and every other day when it rained and this is the first year I have not had any mold problems. Now one patch I sprayed 2 days before it rained and then it rained a little every day for a week. Then it was cold with rain off and on for another week. I went back to check and there was some gray mold on t lower buds. I trimmed and resprayed GreenCure. There was no mold 5 days later. I'm liking GreenCure.

I mixed it with Neem once and burned my Bubba and Pure Kush though. The Bubba recovered. The PK didn't but it also had it's roots chewed by a chimpmunk. I just use plain GreenCure.

 

[Buddle]

Bad year for mold period.Last year was great.Thats the life of a farmer..
I took down three plants today that all with the exception of one could have gone another 10 days.I saw a bit of mold on one.Then i started trimming and found a lot of mold.Chances are if you spot some in the field there's a lot more inside.I HATE taking plants early but I can't see losing 75% to mold either..good luck everyone.
P.S.i sprayed with green cure and baking soda

 

[HighonPottery]

are all those things you guys spray on the buds safe to smoke?

 

[hamstring]

MOLD SUCKS!!!!

I haven’t been out since the 3 days of rain. I am really hoping I am ok but these are new strains to me and it can be very strain related.

I have trimmed mold and then used serenade before and it helped but the strain Shaman by DP was a mold magnet.

This is my first year with green cure also so we will see. My problem is getting to the plots every day or even every other day is out of the question.

My advice is if you are 3 weeks away keep using the green cure 3 weeks is a ways out. Also keep the under growth pulled away from your plants. That mulch that helped retain moisture in the summer is now helping the mold.

Good luck to everyone in this wet season.
PEACE

 

[bergerbuddy]

Wow.. last year I got rotted out... this year I have had a little.. WITH NO RAIN.. NICE BEAUTIFUL DAYS.. but lots of consdensation at nights...

Anyways rain is predicted for this weekend.. and I have decisons to make... I'll probably cut some.. and see how it goes..

I feel for all my fellow growers because to spray or not to spray or cut or not to cut or to watch BEAUTIFUL buds DISAPPEAR to rot... them are hard choices to make!!

 

[budchopper]

try bellodana from paradise seeds it will rot so bad your other plants will look good..

 

[Guest]

Go here and purchase Greencure.

http://www.planetgreenspot.com/GreenCure_organic_fungicide_p/gc8oz.htm


I use only 1/2 tablespoon as the intstructions say to use 1. Hair discoloration can occur using higher doses. It will kill mould, prevent mould and PM. The product is Potassium carbanate. If you eat twinkies and potato chips, your'e injesting the stuff as its primary use is food preservative.

Ive used it for several years. It keeps these babies mould free!

 

[Lucky 7]

I started using Serenade last year and after 3 days of rain, everything is all good. The biggest prob in yrs past was the evil corn borer. They get into your bud, poop, and the poop trails turn to mold. Very nasty, these worms. If you've spotted the wriggly fu*kers in your bud, then you know!

Began using neem oil last year. No more freakin worms! No more mold! (knocking on wood with fingers crossed and stroking rabbits foot)

Seranade is supposed to be safe up till day of harvest, but I quit using a week or two before. Same with neem.

Some really nice C99 & White Widow this yr, both mold resistant. The Cinderella has about 2 wks left, the white widow, I'm guessing will get the chop about Oct 10 to 15 . . .

Pics in a few weeks

 

[Ickis]

Nice plants burgerbuddy and silverback. Love the cornfield shot burgerbuddy.

 

[TheBigGreen1]

Hi, everyone I have just a small problem with bud rot. Thanks for the input about Green Cure. I looked up the MSDS on it and all it is is potassium carbonate, AKA baking soda. With no other active ingredients. They are selling it retail at 16.95 per 8oz. Last time i bought baking soda in the store it was .96 cents a pound. I say use baking soda and save yourselves the insane markup. 1T per gallon. Thats what Im going to do. This co. is seriously getting over on everyone that buys their product. Thanks again. BG1.

 

[Guest]

HeY TheBigGreen1. Greencure is actually Potassium carbonate. Thats similar to baking soda, but similar as in the difference between firecrackers and dynamite. Both will explode, but one is much more powerful. Greencure is the dynamite of baking soda. I believe GC is like 50% more effective than baking soda. Plus, it has surfacants added that help attachit to the leaves and then distribute it evenly on the leaves. YOu can't do that at home I don't think.

 

[BlackBart]

Hey Silverback how often do you spray your plants ? As needed? Or on a regular spray program. I have used Green cure in my GH and noticed that if I did a application three days in a row and then once a week it worked very well.

 

[zachrockbadenof]

after spraying green cure last week at 1 tsp per gallon, i have noticed some brown hairs.. since the plants have (at least i think) another 2-3 weeks to go, i reckon it was the green cure turning em..

cut out a bit more bud rot yesterday.. not a lot, but any is tooo much.

last nite after sundown, i ran my hand over the top of my railing... my hand was soaked with moisture... that can't be a good thing for the buds...

my dilemma... to spray again (using 1/2 the recommended amount), or cross my fingers and hope for the best...

 

[hamstring]

I started using Serenade last year and after 3 days of rain, everything is all good. The biggest prob in yrs past was the evil corn borer. They get into your bud, poop, and the poop trails turn to mold. Very nasty, these worms. If you've spotted the wriggly fu*kers in your bud, then you know!

Began using neem oil last year. No more freakin worms! No more mold! (knocking on wood with fingers crossed and stroking rabbits foot)

Seranade is supposed to be safe up till day of harvest, but I quit using a week or two before. Same with neem.

Some really nice C99 & White Widow this yr, both mold resistant. The Cinderella has about 2 wks left, the white widow, I'm guessing will get the chop about Oct 10 to 15 . . .

Pics in a few weeks

Corn borer is my enemy also I have had 50 of those buggers in one bud before and they do cause the rot big time.

 

[ooga booga]

are all those things you guys spray on the buds safe to smoke?

Good question; how late can GreenCure be used? Will it affect the smoke if used within 2-3 weeks? How about 1 week? 1 day?

(Label says 2-3 week residual coverage, I'm guessing outdoors. Indoors is probably longer?)

 

[ooga booga]

HeY TheBigGreen1. Greencure is actually Potassium carbonate. Thats similar to baking soda, but similar as in the difference between firecrackers and dynamite. Both will explode, but one is much more powerful. Greencure is the dynamite of baking soda. I believe GC is like 50% more effective than baking soda. Plus, it has surfacants added that help attachit to the leaves and then distribute it evenly on the leaves. YOu can't do that at home I don't think.

That's correct, this is a huge misconception that most don't seem to understand. GreenCure is potassium bicarbonate, while baking soda is sodium bicarbonate. While both can be used as fungicides, they are not the same.

Not sure how much of it is marketing, but from what I've read seems that what's special about GreenCure (and also MilStop which has the same formulation) is not just the potassium bicarbonate, but more the spreader/sticker ("wetting agent") that's already mixed in at an optimum ratio.

In 1985 Dr. Ken Horst began research into the efficacy potential of bicarbonates. The research was intended to quantify the true efficacy of bicarbonates, identify their mode of action and determine the most effective use of these compounds.

Several years of research resulted in some significant and surprising discoveries. "The research demonstrated the ability of bicarbonates to effectively inhibit and kill mold spores and determined that potassium bicarbonate was 25 to 35 percent more effective than sodium bicarbonate (baking soda)," says Horst. The research further indicated that a spreader-sticker mechanism was required in order to control and maintain the effectiveness of the bicarbonates. "Without a spreader-sticker," adds Horst, "You don't get complete coverage of the leaf which is necessary to prevent or cure fungal diseases."

During the years of research many spreader-sticker systems were tested, including the use of horticultural oil as an additive. This resulted in better control of the solution and proved more effective than water and bicarbonates alone, unfortunately the test results also showed that horticultural oil as an additive had many negative characteristics.

Negative characteristics of horticultural oil as an additive to bicarbonates include:

• Repeated use for several weeks causes phytotoxicity
• It results in an oily residue building up on the leaves, fruits and vegetables
• There is an occasional visible crinkling of the leaves
• The oil separates rapidly from the water making application difficult

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"Considering the amount of research that went into finding the most benign and effective solution to control plant mildew, there really is no reason for gardeners to create homemade solutions that may not be effective and may produce unfavorable results."