Himalaya Gold (GHS co.) and Frisian Dew (Dutch Passion) Outdoor

[Shevek]

Both varieties began germination process Feb. 21, and planted outside May 6th at 45 degrees North Latitude. Photos taken August 27 and 28th.

Himalaya Gold 3rd week of Flower



Himalaya Gold 4th Week of Flower



Himalaya Gold Clone 3rd Week of Flower




Frisian Dew in 6-7th week of Flowering

 

[thatguy]

Nice FD!!! I have 2 going myslef, 1 week 7, 1 week 6. How tall is it?

I didn't receive my seeds until the end of May, and they started flowering earler than I expected, so I didn't get a chance to LST them.

Hope you don't mind, but I thought I'd post a couple of pics of my furthest along. This was 3 weeks ago.





All the best,
TG

 

[Shevek]

Mine all started flowering earlier than expected.

I'm wondering is the purple star or the super skunk (parents of FD) have ruderallis in their genetic make-up.

 

[Shevek]

Nice FD!!! I have 2 going myslef, 1 week 7, 1 week 6. How tall is it?

TG

The FD did not grow taller than 3.5 feet. I took a couple clones, and the clones seem to be doing the best, but didn't grow beyond 3.5 feet. How about yours?

One phenotype is growing very loose, airy buds, the other appears to be much denser (photograph above) with nice tight clusters of pistills.

The digital camera I am using is not very good. The resolution is poor in the photos and I regret that.

 

[thatguy]

Agreed on the 2 phenos. I have one of each. The airy one didn't want to branch at all, but the other did like a mofo!!!

I wanted to take clones, but I figured with how late I germed the beans (last week of May) that I'd get a better yield if I grew them straight from seed.

I'm surprised that they are that short. The one I posted the pic of (the airy one) is at least 5.5 ft tall, and the other is about a foot taller.

Watch out, I found some bananas on the airy one. Gonna have to pull it early because of it, but not before I pollinate my Hindu Kush x White Widow with it.

All the best,
TG

 

[Shevek]

I also had a hermie issue with the airy pheno

 

[thatguy]

No shit!!! Good to know! Even though I was planning on selecting the denser pheno anyways, that's a good reason to not keep the airy pheno.

Kind of sucks, though, as I like the color of the buds on that one. Hopefully the denser pheno is just as good, if not better, as I'll feel better about killing that pheno off when I grow out the rest of my seeds!!!

Here's some close-ups of the airy one.



And the denser pheno.


All the best,
TG

 

[Shevek]

Right on man. I'd like to select the denser pheno as well....But before I do so, I've made a garve mistake... I didn't take note of any vegetative differences between the two. Do you have the knowledge to select the denser pheno based on veg state?

One thing I have noticed is that the Frisian is quite Mould resistant. I actually have found the denser pheno to be more resistant. Figure that out!

 

[thatguy]

I'd have to go through my pics. I really doubt I'll be able to tell the difference, as I guess I wasn't really paying any attention at all, because I was confusing the denser pheno FD with a Passion #1 right next to it.

I was figuring that I'd have to clone for sex to find out. Hopefully my pics will show a difference. If so, I'll post comparison shots. Did you top them? For me, the airy pheno flowered a little earlier, and didn't want to branch at all. The denser pheno got a 90 degree bend at the top, and took to it just as well as the P#1 next to it.

Also agree that the denser pheno is more mold resistant. While the airy one still has excellent resistance, I haven't seen any at all on the dense one! I'm thinking it's a keeper for OD!!!

I'm real happy with the P#1 so far, as well. Very dense, smells like orange juice, also no mold, and also almost done!

All the best,
TG

 

[Shevek]

I did top them. That may be what restricted their height. But, i geminated them Feb. 21 and had them outside May 6. So they had plenty of time to grow. Unless the cold nights stunted them?? Or a combo of both topping and cold nights. They didn't resist the cold nights in the beginning as well as the Himalaya Gold, but are more mould resistant.

I'm at week 8 now with the FD, and looks like it could go 10......

Man, I love the dense pheno too. Smells so juicy.

 

[thatguy]

Sounds like they're right there with mine! 10 weeks is what I was planning, too!

Yours were OD much earlier than mine. I didn't even get the seeds till May 22nd!

Had a branch snap bad on me yesterday as I was staking things down (BTW, my dense one was HORIZONTAL from weight!) in preparation for TS Hanna, headed this way. So it's drying right now. I'll let you know what it's like in a week!

Gotta say, I'm glad to find someone else growing the same strain as me. It's pretty cool to be able to discuss specifics of growing and observing a strain!

Did it get eaten some by bugs, too? And how much light? My partner from last year has some clones OD I gave him, and they're REAL short. Like 2 ft.

In addition to being a runty clone, it was eaten pretty bad, and sat in about 10 hours of sun. So it's just this tiny ass bush.

All the best,
TG

 

[Guest]

Hey Shevek,

This is my first time of growing Himalayan Gold but I like it. I think I can dial her in now that Ive grown her once. Im interested in the FD. Is it finishing at the same rate/pace as the HG. I had 2 pheno's to the HG. One that was a basic christmas tree shape shape with exaggerated lateral branches and then one that is somewhat vase shaped. Both are big plants and big yielders though. I cant wait to test for potency.

Here's the Christmas tree shaped pheno







Here's the vase shaped pheno




Keep us posted about the progress of the FD.

 

[Shevek]

For me the Frisian Dew is 2-4 weeks ahead of my Himalayas.

The Himalayas grew to 5-6.5 feet, whereas the FD only grew 3.5 feet. The Frisian Dew has a much different branching structure, and for me each branch seems to grow one main cola, and not produce the lateral shoots like the HG that end up competing with the terminal shoots.

Anyhow, all in all, I like the quickness of the FD. I only had 5 fems, and there is only two left to harvest, and it's the dense phenotype. The airy phenotype was done much earlier. For instance I was able to take a couple buds the first weekend of Auguust and quicky dry them, but the rest was taken down in the middle of August (15-16) NOTE: The airy phenotype lacks the fruity, juicy smell, and doesn't produce near the amount of trichomes as the dense phenotype.

All in all, my favorite Frisian Dew is approximatley 2-3 wees ahead of my Favorite HG. With the FD having much better mold resistance. But in term of yield, the HG is far superior and this will most likely make up for the loss to mold.

Have a good one fellas. Hopefully I'll have some week 8 photos of te FD, and some week 5-6 of the HG.

 

[Shevek]

Did it get eaten some by bugs, too? And how much light? My partner from last year has some clones OD I gave him, and they're REAL short. Like 2 ft.

All the best,
TG

Hey,

I'm getting 8 +/- 1 hours of light per day. I have no bug problems other than slugs, which can be devastating for a young plant.

TS Hanna is a bitch man.

Good luck. Hopefully I'll get some new photos up.

 

[thatguy]

So you took the airy pheno down that early??? Mine isn't coming down till Fri! When did you first see pistils on your airy ones?

My airy one has almost as much smell as the dense one, so that's odd. Just tried the airy one for the first time a couple of hours ago, and I have to say that it has a very slight flavor. You almost have to try to taste it. Very mild smoke, too. It's so airy it dries out way too quickly.

I took test buds off of 5 plants. 2 FD (1 airy, 1 dense), 2 Passion #1, and 1 bagseed. The airy FD is completely dried after 4 days, while nothing else is even within 2 days. That FD just didn't have enough mass to dry at the same rate.

Even with the fast dry, it's not harsh at all, and while there might not be much flavor, it sure do get me stoned!

So all in all, I'm still happy with it. Though I will test for pheno before I grow it again next year!

Silverback, that HG looks gorgeous! Love how the branches are horizontal from weight!

All the best,
TG

 

[Shevek]

The airy FD's seemed to autoflower, they started showing small clusters of pistills back in Mid-End June depending on airy plant.

I harvested the first two Airy phenotype August 15/16, and the 2nd airy plant a couple days ago. Very little yield, and dries quickly.

I am hoping Hannah doesn't trigger a massive mold outbreak.

 

[thatguy]

Makes sense to me! My airy one started flowering at the end of the 1st week of July.

So you were in the path of Hanna too? One of my buddy's plants had some bud rot on it yesterday! So it's definitely having an ill effect.

I'm going out there tomorrow with some greencure (potassium bicarbonate, more effective than baking soda, with a spreader/sticker added), because I know the PM my other plants have is going to be back in full force!

All the best,
TG

 

[North]

Shevek, Hello from 45N also!

Both of you, PLEASE do keep up with reports,and smoke testing also, I've been looking at both of these strains for next year.

either of you care to comment on soil prep you did?, fert usage,size of holes dug,ect.

 

[thatguy]

I used 10 gal grow bags, as I grow in a swamp with horribly acidic soil.

I used 40% potting soil, 30% compost, 20% peat moss, and 10% perlite. I amended GH's rare earth (silica, humates, and minerals) into it, along with 1 1/2 tsp lime per gal, and water retaining crystals.

I used FF's Marine Cuisine for veg, which worked great aside from the fact that carnivorous animals seem to love it (because of the crab and shrimp meal), so I'd recommend using something else. I know I will!

For flowering I've been using POM Bulb Food (3-8-8), and guano (3-10-1).

Both phenos seem to be able to take higher levels of ferts, with the dense one (I think) being able to take more, as I have kept upping the amount, and it just keeps taking it, with the leaves paling a little as the MC continues to wear off.

All the best,
TG

PS- check out my thread (link in sig) if you want to see the 2 phenos as they grew.

 

[North]

ThatGuy, thanks for the update, much appreciated!

I'll be checking your thread next, swamp growing is something else I'm looking at for next year,I've never done it before,but after hauling water for a crop of males): this year I need to try some different angles, I'm getting to old for this hardcore stuff, and need to be smarter about my work time.