what is AN trantula ?

[habeeb]

I'm trying to figure out what is tarantula from AN? and if anyone has a link to a store with it's "brother" product would be great

the piranha is just this product essentially correct?
http://www.horticulturesource.com/p.../2265?osCsid=1e8c249a097148f99982238a4bf3f661

thanks for any info guys

 

[Wunderkind]

I use both Pirahna & Tarantula. The difference between the two is Pirahna is fungi, Tarantula is bacteria, and yes, they basically do the same job as straight Myco. I'm not sure of the real differences between the three, maybe just a fancy label on the T&P.

Both T&P are root zone & growth enhancers, and the Tarantula is also supposed to promote more bud sites. For me they work fantastic. I don't veg for very long so the stalks have very little time to fatten up. The T&P gives my plants a nice kick in the ass.

When using Tarantula, Piranha, or Myco you also have to feed the little guys. Of course AN recommends Voodoo Juice, I think, could be Scorpian Juice, could be both. I went the cheap way and use Botanicare's Sweet. I was told I could also use Molasses, but the grow shop guys were pretty much clueless on how much to use.

 

[Tactical Farmer]

AN P&T have the highest amounts / varietys of "good guys" in there product vs. the competition. (if there not full of it). ?

Also most combine bacteria & fungi but these dont. "which can be very nice".

* 1 teaspoon to 1 tablespoon of molasses per gal..

 

[CT Guy]

supposedly pirahna and tarantula are made by Dr. Mike at Mycorrhizal Applications and then just rebranded by AN. You want to make sure that the mycorrhizae is specific to the plant, their are different strains.

 

[Mr Celsius]

supposedly pirahna and tarantula are made by Dr. Mike at Mycorrhizal Applications and then just rebranded by AN. You want to make sure that the mycorrhizae is specific to the plant, their are different strains.

Please enlightenment me as to the specific strain that would be suitable for our lovely species of plant. Thank you in advance.

Edit: Btw I hate AN, they don't even list what strains they use... its BS! Every other company on the plant that sells bacterial or fungi inoculants at least lists what strains are in the product!

 

[Tactical Farmer]

About Dr. Hornby TARANTULA Powder:

Tarantula form Advanced Nutrients is a new break through product in soil and hydroponic growing mediums. Tarantula is a bacterial blend of 57 microorganisms, with 1.4 BILLION Colony Forming Units PER GRAM ! This gives Tarantula the highest concentration of microorganisms in the world. This rich blend of microorganisms contains Bacillus, Streptomycetes Actinomycetes, and Psuedomonas for plant growth. This mixture of divers and extremely rich microorganisms forms a symbiotic relationship with the plants root zone in the rhizsosphere. This produces healthy, strong plants and root systems making the plants able to sustain many different types of stresses produced by the variable of nature.

Tarantula Technical Info

We’ve got Piranhas, and we’ve got Tarantulas! Advanced Nutrients created our famous Tarantula formula because our scientists said that our other beneficial microbe products, as good as they were, did not have several varieties of beneficial bacteria that would help our customer’s crops. So we worked hard to make a stable formula containing 57 types of microorganisms that work together to benefit crops in ways that no other product can. Not only is our formula stable, safe, and easy to use, it’s also the most potent and well-engineered of its type on the market. Our competitor’s products are inferior in potency, type of microorganisms contained, and design.

The major bacteria in Tarantula include Bacillus, Psuedomonas, Aztobacter, and Streptomyces. In the root zone, these bacteria form a relationship with roots and substances that feed crops, thus increasing nutrient movement into crops and making more nutrients available to roots. Aztobacter converts atmopsheric nitrogen to a form that can be used by roots. Pseudomonas is especially useful because it helps produce natural hormones that stimulate crop growth and also enhances seed germination while resisting "damping off" and other pathogens that plague seeds and seedlings.

As a foliar spray, Tarantula facilitates plant respiration, energy production, nutrient uptake and pathogen resistance.

Tarantula Mixing Instructions Directions:

Root zone application: Mix 0.3 grams per Litre (1/8 tsp per quart) of nutrient solution.

For accelerated growth: Use 0.6 grams per Litre (1/4 tsp per quart). Apply weekly during vegetative (grow) cycle and weeks 1 & 2 of the flowering cycle.

Foliar Spray: For foliar colinization of benificial fungi, mix 2 grams per Litre (1 tsp per quart) with pure water. Apply weekly

Warning: Do not swallow. Keep out of reach of children

 

[CT Guy]

Dr. Mike's website is:
http://mycorrhizae.com/

I believe they have a chart that shows what type for a particular plant. You could just buy it from them directly if they sell that way. If I was in the market for mycorrhizae, I would either go for something from them or Paul Stamets at www.fungi.com

 

[Mr Celsius]

Dr. Mike's website is:
http://mycorrhizae.com/

I believe they have a chart that shows what type for a particular plant. You could just buy it from them directly if they sell that way. If I was in the market for mycorrhizae, I would either go for something from them or Paul Stamets at www.fungi.com

I actually emailed Dr Mike and asked what strains of fungi, trichoderma and bacterias are good for Cannabis sativa.

 

[habeeb]

I actually emailed Dr Mike and asked what strains of fungi, trichoderma and bacterias are good for Cannabis sativa.

sounds good. let us know

 

[jdubz206]

AN fucking rocks. their ads are cheesy but their products outperform all others.

 

[jdubz206]

hey Mr. Celsius, just because you don't like AN doesn't mean you have to be a prick about it. i have used several other brands - fox farms, earth juice, botanicare (i'm even trying organicare now), gh, and a few others that aren't coming to the front of my mind. i've also tried combinations of almost all of the above. to this point, i have not had as good results as i have had my last 2 runs since almost completely switching to AN in flower. do you use or have you ever used AN? your opinion isn't the only one that matters. this thread was specifically asking about an AN product. i'm not doubting your myco mike guy at all. i haven't tried tarantula yet but if it's like any of the other products i've tried, i'm not disappointed. i try new products all the time and if i like something i pick it up. don't be a fucking dick and thanks for the negative points. sorry to hijack this thread, again AN makes great products. check some of my posts in the sfv og kush thread to see what results i've been getting...

edit: i just looked at the products offered on dr.mike's site and they look like they contain totally different ingredients...

 

[Mr Celsius]

edit: i just looked at the products offered on dr.mike's site and they look like they contain totally different ingredients...

Hmm, please explain how you came to that conclusion. Considering AN doesn't tell which species of mycorrizhae or bacteria they're giving you. I'm holding a container of Tarantula as I type this message. All your trolling aside, if you have a problem, message me.

Here's the message I got from mycorrhizae.com:

Cannabis forms an Endo or Arbuscular mycorrhizal relationship. You will want
to purchase a product that contains a diverse mix of endomycorrhizal
species. You will want to choose the form that works best with your
equipment/labor and allows the product to get in close proximity to the
rootzone.

We do manufacture a Product called MycoApply Soluble that contains the
mycorrhizae, a bacteria package, a biostimulant package and 2 species of
trichoderma and I know this does tend to be one of the more popular products
in your industry. Many people great great results from this combination.

If there are any other questions you have or any information I can get out
to you, please feel free to contact me.

Thank you for your interest.

Best Regards,

 

[jdubz206]

Hmm, please explain how you came to that conclusion. Considering AN doesn't tell which species of mycorrizhae or bacteria they're giving you. I'm holding a container of Tarantula as I type this message. All your trolling aside, if you have a problem, message me.

Here's the message I got from mycorrhizae.com:

wtf are you talking about? have you even gone to AN's site and looked up the product? i don't understand why you're comparing myco to tarantula, they're completely different products. tarantula contains mainly beneficial bacterias (myco is a beneficial fungus). two different things. piranha is the myco blend. you want information? here we go:

Advanced Nutrients’ Tarantula is a highly-concentrated soil inocculant formula that contains “super strains” of beneficial soil bacteria. Because of their ability to massively enhance plant growth and health they are called “plant growth promoting rhizobacteria” of PGPR for short.

Tarantula makes “living soil” out of sterile growing mediums such as rockwool or coir by implanting them with beneficial soil microbes. Soil based gardens are equally enhanced by the potent inocculant we have called Tarantula.


C) The Ingredients of Tarantula:

Tarantula contains three genera of pant growth promoting rhizobacteria (PGPR), 19 species all together: these are from the genera Bacillus, Actinomycetes, and Pseudomonas.

Tarantula is a dry, powder that consists of dormant PGPR spores that will grow upon contact with water. In this form these PGPR have the longest possible shelf life.

Advanced Nutrients’ Tarantula also contains a carbohydrate mixture that dissolves in water; this serves as an initial food source for the germinating bacterial spores before they find their way to inhabit plant roots.
Groups of Bacteria and their specific benefits:

Bacilius and Paenibavillus (Bacteria)
Decompose organic matter and pesticide residues
Enhance plant growth
Increase nutrient cycling / solubilize minerals
Produce natural plant growth hormones Improve soil aggregation

Psuedomonas (Bacteria)
Produce natural plant growth hormones
Enhance seed-germination and viability of emerging seedling
Solubilize phosphorous

Azotobacter
Converts atmospheric nitrogen to plant available nitrogen

Streptomyces (Actinomycetes)
Decompose organic matter

So I don't understand why you keep going on and on about myco when this product is different. There's a ton of info on tarantula here: https://www.advancednutrients.com/advancepedia/product.php?productID=63&catID=23

Regarding AN's myco product, Piranha, here's that info:
PIRANHA
Using beneficial microbes to create a more natural environment for roots and leaves is the Advanced way of increasing plant health, growth rate, and yield. Piranha Beneficial Fungi colonizes root zones with eight species of trichoderma and 18 species of endomycorrhizal and ectomycorrhizal fungi. Trichoderma are energetic colonizers that enhance root mass while preventing root rot and other problems caused by harmful microbes, such as pythium and pytophethoria. Piranha works wonders for roots but is also a fantastic foliar spray that protects plants against harmful fungi that attack leaves and flowers, such as Pythium, Rhizoctania solani, Fusarium, Botrytis cinerea (grey mold), Sclerotium rolfsii, and Sclerotinia homoeocarpa. Mycorrhizal fungi excrete powerful natural chemicals that increase nutrient availability and root water retention, retard soil pathogens, and create a more aerated, porous soil structure. Mycorrhizal fungi can expand surface area of root mass by as much as 700%! Our research documented that Piranha improved root nutrient and water uptake while increasing plant resistance to soil diseases and environmental stress. Plants treated with Piranha have more flowers and fruit, and produce bigger harvests, especially when Piranha is used with its companion product

A) Piranha is a Mix of Mycorrhizal Super-Strains:

Farmers and horticulturists around the world rely on the symbiosis between beneficial fungi and their plants in order to maximize yield and crop health. Whether they inoculate or practice intensive organic techniques, their goal is to develop huge colonies of beneficial fungi to sheathe and grow into all root tissues in their crops.

Piranha is a mixture of purified mycorrhizal spores developed by agronomic scientists who have grown them into pure strains. Piranha is a powdered concentrate of these spores collected from six super-strains of mycorrhizal fungi that will grow in all gardens.

In this powdered format the spore concentrate will last up to two years; the spores of these beneficial fungi are extremely durable and will germinate as soon as conditions permit.

Piranha is a purely mycorrhizal product; it contains fungal spores. Advanced Nutrients also makes Tarantula and Voodoo Juice which are beneficial bacterial strains that can also be used with Piranha

Piranha - Points of Difference
1. Contains 6 super strains of beneficial fungi.


2 There are 4 super strains of Glumus and 2 species of Trichoderma, including a variant of strain T-22.


3. These mico-organisms dissolve nutrients, assists with H2O absorbtion, promote soil porosity (absorbtion), develop root mass, help plants resist stress, ensure better yeilds, enable faster establishment of fruits and flowers.


4. Piranha has the right number of fungal spores per gam to give the biggest and quickest response.


So before you go and talk shit, make sure you know what you're talking about.... Tarantula does not contain myco. If you want myco get Piranha. Can you show me where on dr. mike's site it gives as much info as the advanced-a-pedia? obviously the person who told you that tarantula was repackaged dr.mike's myco was a LIAR and probably hates on AN just like anyone else. i doubt that you really have a container of tarantula or that you have ever even tried it... want to prove me wrong? write fuck jdubz on the lid and take a picture.

 

[Mr Celsius]

I have a bottle of Piranha and Tarantula, they both don't list the strains of bacteria/fungi. Also, I looked on www.advancednutrients.com and didn't see a listing.

Dr. Mike also doesn't list what strains are in his. I still don't see how you could say that they are different, or even the same products.

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

About Dr. Hornby TARANTULA Powder:

Tarantula form Advanced Nutrients is a new break through product in soil and hydroponic growing mediums. Tarantula is a bacterial blend of 57 microorganisms, with 1.4 BILLION Colony Forming Units PER GRAM ! This gives Tarantula the highest concentration of microorganisms in the world. This rich blend of microorganisms contains Bacillus, Streptomycetes Actinomycetes, and Psuedomonas for plant growth. This mixture of divers and extremely rich microorganisms forms a symbiotic relationship with the plants root zone in the rhizsosphere. This produces healthy, strong plants and root systems making the plants able to sustain many different types of stresses produced by the variable of nature.

Tarantula Technical Info

We’ve got Piranhas, and we’ve got Tarantulas! Advanced Nutrients created our famous Tarantula formula because our scientists said that our other beneficial microbe products, as good as they were, did not have several varieties of beneficial bacteria that would help our customer’s crops. So we worked hard to make a stable formula containing 57 types of microorganisms that work together to benefit crops in ways that no other product can. Not only is our formula stable, safe, and easy to use, it’s also the most potent and well-engineered of its type on the market. Our competitor’s products are inferior in potency, type of microorganisms contained, and design.

The major bacteria in Tarantula include Bacillus, Psuedomonas, Aztobacter, and Streptomyces. In the root zone, these bacteria form a relationship with roots and substances that feed crops, thus increasing nutrient movement into crops and making more nutrients available to roots. Aztobacter converts atmopsheric nitrogen to a form that can be used by roots. Pseudomonas is especially useful because it helps produce natural hormones that stimulate crop growth and also enhances seed germination while resisting "damping off" and other pathogens that plague seeds and seedlings.

As a foliar spray, Tarantula facilitates plant respiration, energy production, nutrient uptake and pathogen resistance.

Tarantula Mixing Instructions Directions:

Root zone application: Mix 0.3 grams per Litre (1/8 tsp per quart) of nutrient solution.

For accelerated growth: Use 0.6 grams per Litre (1/4 tsp per quart). Apply weekly during vegetative (grow) cycle and weeks 1 & 2 of the flowering cycle.

Foliar Spray: For foliar colinization of benificial fungi, mix 2 grams per Litre (1 tsp per quart) with pure water. Apply weekly

Warning: Do not swallow. Keep out of reach of children

i can vouch for all that. these are great products, i use them once in veg, and begining of week1 and begining of week 3, in the soil, and atleast 4 or5 times as a foliar, AN's "organic-b" (yeasts) is a good food source for these bacteria/fungi to eat, and help them colonize the plant. Tea's also provide good microbial food aswell. i dont use molasis, but im sure its a decent food source too the label almost reads like a nutrient's label.

*edit
AN USED to have a nice long 40-50 page "technical info" page on reaserch on each of there products, it was extreamly teadius and technical, almost needed to be a bio-chemist or microbiologist to understand all the words. funny enough, it seams absent while i just looked to show it to you, instead i find a dissapointingly cheese "buy it now" pitch whereas there sales used to be a different site. poor planing IMO... i think im going to call and findout the deal-

 

[jdubz206]

I have a bottle of Piranha and Tarantula, they both don't list the strains of bacteria/fungi. Also, I looked on www.advancednutrients.com and didn't see a listing.

Dr. Mike also doesn't list what strains are in his. I still don't see how you could say that they are different, or even the same products.

are you that high or just retarded? i posted a link above to all the info you could ever want on tarantula and it;s on AN's site.

 

[Mr Celsius]

are you that high or just retarded? i posted a link above to all the info you could ever want on tarantula and it;s on AN's site.

Now I remember why I put you on my ignore list all that time ago. Have fun in your cave troll.

 

[CT Guy]

Sorry...let me explain. I'm pretty sure that Pirahna is a Dr. Mike product, but don't know about Tarantula. I think a lot of the AN products are essential rebranded or slightly tweaked for the cannabis industry. I'm not saying they're bad products by any means, though I'm not a fan of their advertising or marketing. I think they do a disservice to your community in that regard.