Scrog or SOG??

[statictattoo]

so my alpha diesels are a month old, i was planning on vegging them a lil longer and then taking as many clones as I can and doing a 36 plant Sog on my 3x3 ebb n' flo.

To do this i would probably need another week or two of veg, plus they haven't shown sex yet... Then a 3 week veg in the easy cloner before flipping to flower.

Do you guys think it would be better to do a scrog? How long do you think it will take to fill up a 3x3 screen? How do you guys think the yields would compare?

 

[eLiguL]

plus they haven't shown sex yet...

You might wanna sex them asap which ever way you decide to go

Do you guys think it would be better to do a scrog? How long do you think it will take to fill up a 3x3 screen? How do you guys think the yields would compare?

A scrog and a sog use the same theory, an even canopy with the lights as close as possible.

I believe the only difference is plant numbers and veg time.

Scrog= less plants, more veg
Sog= more plants, little to no veg

 

[statictattoo]

yah in theroy, but which one do you think would be faster.. I think either way a matter of weeks..

I was kinda hoping they will show sex in the next few weeks, i'm going to put them under the 400 watt mh sometime this week

 

[eLiguL]

yah in theroy, but which one do you think would be faster.. I think either way a matter of weeks..

I was kinda hoping they will show sex in the next few weeks, i'm going to put them under the 400 watt mh sometime this week

If your mom/donor plant has enough tops then it would only be a matter of making enough clones and you can run a sog as soon as they root.

If your mom/donor plant is big enough you can start training it under a scrog and veg it until your screen is full.

When did you flip 12/12?? My girls usually take 7-14 days to show sex.

 

[the_lonely_one]

Of course there is always the legality issue, but I am sure you thought of that.

 

[statictattoo]

Of course there is always the legality issue, but I am sure you thought of that.

What do you mean by that? Plant count?

 

[the_lonely_one]

Yes, plant count.

 

[FreezerBoy]

When I did SOG, I averaged 50-75 plants at a time. With ScROG, I average 2. I did perpetual for a while but after the newness wore off, I found it to be too much work (I'm a LAZY grower)

SOG would be faster. How much faster depends on how big a screen you're trying to fill with a ScROG. SOG would be better for multi strain gardens if you're so inclined. I like harvesting 2-3 times a year as opposed to every 2 weeks. But, that's me.

 

[statictattoo]

2-3 times a year? Do you take time off? Id like to harvest at least every 2 months.. and man after spending 2 days cleaning rocks and trimming Id rather spend a few hours every week with a few plants. But that is down the road at some point. I just cant do it with my current set up, the problem would be flushing.. i would need a separate flood table... sometimes i think i should have went dirt and life would so much easier

So you think it'd be faster to clone and do a sog aposed to doing a scrog... I guess Im just a lil worried my last attempt at cloning was not sucesful, I didnt have a eazy cloner then but what if it doesnt work and i kill all my Alpha's.... that would really make me

 

[statictattoo]

Yes, plant count.

Im not sure what the plant count laws are in canada... Ill still be under 99 so thats a good thing

 

[FreezerBoy]

2-3 times a year? Do you take time off?

There are only so many 160 day grows you can get in in under a year. Right now I'm growing Thunks and 20 weeks of 12/12 just isn't enough time for them to finish.

I may take next summer off or buy a micro chiller for my DWC. I'm still on the fence. I just don't care to do the ice bottle boggie again.

 

[statictattoo]

20 weeks, crazy man crazy... must be some killer smoke to be willing to go through that

 

[Romalin]

are you growing for your own medication? growing for just meds the way that i've seen works best is to scrog, it will NOT BE FASTER, but i think youd be happier with the end results. That way clones dont mean the end of the world if you lose some. take a bunch keep a few, use only a couple.

 

[statictattoo]

are you growing for your own medication? growing for just meds the way that i've seen works best is to scrog, it will NOT BE FASTER, but i think youd be happier with the end results. That way clones dont mean the end of the world if you lose some. take a bunch keep a few, use only a couple.

I am growing for my and my growing partners personal use, would be nice to have way more then i need and sell a lil on the side... times are tough money would be nice

 

[Romalin]

id go scrog if you wanna have some cash later, it will be harder right now, but again; i think youd be much happier with the end result.

 

[the_shadow]

you know, you can always try both methods and see which you prefer? Not sure how much space you have, but as FB has demonstrated, a SCROG in an old freezer will have plenty of yield. A smalller sog (4x4 table for example) isn't too much space either.

You could start the scrog with a few clones, then once you get cloning down to a science, start a sog. The two methods can race to harvest

 

[FreezerBoy]

FB has demonstrated, a SCROG in an old freezer will have plenty of yield.

Thanks for the shout out but, Truth in Advertising ... It took 160 days. I don't think Master Stat's Alpha Diesel requires a Thunk's 20+ weeks of 12/12 but, ... I'm just sayin'.

 

[the_shadow]

true, true... timing is a factor (My haze mum is a 180 b@tch!) I guess growing styles as well as strain flowering times should be considered =P

 

[statictattoo]

The only way i can ever see myself running a 160 day strain is A) I go dirt or B) do a bucket system.. and even then maybe 1 in the back outa sighta outa mind lol

 

[jugdishe]

In my opinion scrog, if you do it right, is a lot of work. training and trimming. sog, on the other hand, can be much easier and you end up with a much more consistent end result. you can move them around and harvest is a breeze.