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Grandad

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Hey there hope the form is good.

Opinions appreciated:

I have a nice stash of various types of weed. I havenot been ingesting it as I have asthma and damage to my lungs from 10 years of smoking, and have been trying to let my lungs recover.

the past couple of days however I have been vaping all of the lovely varieties I have.

Is vapor bad for your lungs?
 
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Whatever

Grandad said:
Hey there hope the form is good.

Opinions appreciated:

I have a nice stash of various types of weed. I havenot been ingesting it as I have asthma and damage to my lungs from 10 years of smoking, and have been trying to let my lungs recover.

the past couple of days however I have been vaping all of the lovely varieties I have.

Is vapor bad for your lungs?
Vaping is probably the 'safest' and most effective way to use cannabis. Eating is good but there's destruction of actives in the digestive system...then things get filtered by the liver then finally to the brain/body. GO VAPE! I know of one person who when they started smoking canna regularly stopped having asthma issues.

Met a local med cancer peep and immediately had them go buy a vaporizer. Started in her ovaries but progressed into her lungs but she was still smoking.
 

Sleepy

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it is possiible to burn the herb in a vaporizer...

it is possiible to burn the herb in a vaporizer...

as long as you have it set properly, you will inhale only vapor, not smoke.

the flavor out of a nice clean vape is just amazing. :rasta:
 

Pythagllio

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Whatever said:
Vaping is probably the 'safest' and most effective way to use cannabis. Eating is good but there's destruction of actives in the digestive system...then things get filtered by the liver then finally to the brain/body.

Yet you just can't get the effect from inhaling that you can from edibles. The only reason to inhale is economic beyond the pleasure that one may derive from the taste. Yes, I love the taste when smoking, think the taste from vaping is even better, and think I'd do both or the other even if it didn't get me there at all. Kind of like some people like their cherry tobacco in their Dr. Grabow's. But reality is that smoking is a byproduct of prohibition. There was very little, if any smoking of cannabis going on before prohibition passed. Reference " The Hasheesh Eater" by FitzHugh Ludlow if you want to know how rec users approached the ingestion of cannabis in the mid 1800s.

http://www.amazon.com/Annotated-Has...=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218435996&sr=1-3
 

inflorescence

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Pythagllio said:
Yet you just can't get the effect from inhaling that you can from edibles. The only reason to inhale is economic beyond the pleasure that one may derive from the taste. Yes, I love the taste when smoking, think the taste from vaping is even better, and think I'd do both or the other even if it didn't get me there at all. Kind of like some people like their cherry tobacco in their Dr. Grabow's. But reality is that smoking is a byproduct of prohibition. There was very little, if any smoking of cannabis going on before prohibition passed. Reference " The Hasheesh Eater" by FitzHugh Ludlow if you want to know how rec users approached the ingestion of cannabis in the mid 1800s.

http://www.amazon.com/Annotated-Has...=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1218435996&sr=1-3

Lester Grinspoon is a big proponent of the "titration" that inhaled (whether vaped or smoked) MJ can give compared to edible ingesting.

That's the funny thing about the whole medical MJ thing.
Opponents say there is no way ANY "smoked" drug should become legal because of the effects on the lungs but the titration of the dose by smoking is actually one of the most effective, most efficient and SAFEST way to get a required dose of a drug into the human body.

Many millions of people die every year from OD'ing on legal pharmecuticals because when they eat them by the time their body recognizes that the dose they took was too much it is too late because at that point a certain amount ofthe drug has already been absorbed and even if they are rushed to a hospital a certain amount is being absobed into their system on the way.

BUT, if they could have smoked their pharmecuticals they would be able to "drop the pipe" by the time their body recognized that they have taken too large a dose but there wouldn't be all that extra amount in their GI tract waiting to be absorbed. This would save their lives in many cases.

In other words smoking is the best route of entry for any drug and its BS that the opponents of MMJ will tell you otherwise.
 
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FreezerBoy

Was blind but now IC Puckbunny in Training
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GET MO said:
just dont burn ya fingers! other than that its safe.
This would've been my comment. Something in there is up to 300º, maybe more.
 

GET MO

Registered Med User
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When I start vapin, Ima go with the heat gun with the glass bong method, you get just the right tempature and from my experience the most good vapor. Plus I dont like bags.
 

Storm Crow

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I concur about the Vapor Brothers- LOVE MINE!

I concur about the Vapor Brothers- LOVE MINE!

Here are some studies and articles on vaporizing....

Vaporization as a smokeless cannabis delivery system
http://www.cannabis-med.org/studies/ww_en_db_study_show.php?s_id=187

Smokeless Cannabis Delivery Device Efficient And Less Toxic
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/71112.php

Volcano is to Vaporizer As Porsche is to Automobile
http://ccrmg.org/journal/04spr/volcano.html

Recommendation to Patients: "Don’t smoke, Vaporize"
http://ccrmg.org/journal/03sum/vaporize.html

Decreased respiratory symptoms in cannabis users who vaporize.
http://marijuana.researchtoday.net/archive/4/4/1195.htm

Use of vaporizers reduces toxins from cannabis smoke
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/bulletin/ww_en_db_cannabis_artikel.php?id=146#2

Marijuana Water Pipe and Vaporizer Study
http://www.ukcia.org/research/pipes.htm

Enjoy your vape!- Granny
 
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CheifnBud2

If your vaping at a lower temp i say its very safe. As long as you have a volcano/hotbox/vapor bros ceramic.

If you turn up the temp to high it turns into a vapor/smoke like essence and can burn your throat more than taking a bonghit imo.

on the boxes, dial straight up, or lower. On the volcano setting 7 or 390 degrees MAX I would go lower.

The only thing i dont like about vaporizers is you have to take like 10-20 hits off of one nice sized bowl and the hot air kinda drys out your mouth/throat unless you really take your time and have something to drink. Compared to taking 2 big bonghits and forgetting about it for an hour or 3.
 

Storm Crow

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Chief, consider this.

One or two bong hits and the cannabis is destroyed. Just ashes are left, nothing to get high on.


With a vape, the hot air is pulled through "10-20 times". Each time more THC and CBD are released, over and over. I think you would end up a bit higher with the vape.

And then there's the vaping "left-overs"- they can be made into a milder version of cannabutter or baked goods. For some reason, edibles work FAR better on my hubby's pain. He needs to smoke a ton to get real pain relief, but 2 "magic muffins" a day and he's practically pain free! (I eat the same dose and I get "buzzed", not stoned, and I'm about 30 pounds lighter than him!) But getting high twice on the same pot? I can live with that!

I like the whip-style vape. I can have a vape going on, and if the phone rings (happens a lot!), I just walk away from my VB, knowing the vaporizer will just sit there until I return. When I get back, I continue vaping where I left off. No waste, no bag to contend with. Love it!

I can deal with the dry mouth with a big glass of iced tea- no big deal! My VB was worth EVERY penny- and I'm tight with a buck!

Granny
 
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Whatever

CheifnBud2 said:
If your vaping at a lower temp i say its very safe.
From what I understand THC starts to 'boil' at 352F...well below the threshold of burning any plant material. As for ingesting one of the reasons peeps feel it so strongly, IMO, is that through the cooking process you get a lot more conversion of THC to CBD. The digestive system/process will destroy some of the actives...no way around it. The digestive system route is poorest method to assimilate something.

When you vape properly nothing is technically burned.
 
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CheifnBud2

I dont know technically if i am getting more thc delivered from .4 in a vape or .5-.6 in 2 bonghits but the effects from the bonghits are immediate and about the same duration in length as the .4 in the vape.

I admit the vape is healthier and probably 1.5-3x more efficent.
 
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Whatever

CheifnBud2 said:
I admit the vape is healthier and probably 1.5-3x more efficent.
Only thing I'll admit is a properly set up vape is healthier. All-in-all I prefer to smoke even though I know it's not the 'best' for me...there's something about puffing.
 

Grandad

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I am using a convection-based vape (Master Blaster) and the heat settings are unscientific, but I am not burning the weed as far as I can tell..

but the weekends vaping defo has worsened my asthma.

I'll be eating it only for the time being.
 

Pseudo

just do it
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right on storm crow, i set mine at 12 oclock its good to go, mine is a hands free unit and i bought a non hand free compatible whip and guess what??? its compatible, i bought the smaller diameter one, i think its 10mm, and its a perfect one hit
 

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