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KDee211

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Okay so i know indica has that buzz effect, and i know Sativa's has that high effect, so what about that high effect, what is your opinions?

So what if the strain has (80/20) Sativa/indica, you will get "high" and get the stone effect?
 
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levant

Hi KD-

I love these topics,
I remember when we first started smoking herb me and my friends knew nothing of
sativa and indica, but we did experience different high's.
We named bud like "sleepy weed" or "happy weed"
When we learned about sativas and indicas we were fascinated with finding out the different effects, and still are.

Like you say it's not as simple as "couchlock" or "up"
There are so many subtleties.
The most tiring burnt out buzz Ive had was from a pure sativa.
And some Indica's have very clear-headed highs.

With mostly sativa hybrids, I find they feel sativa at first, but then the indica effects
creep in after, I really like most 75% sativa's I've tried,
I find its a good ratio.

Many people seem to like sativa's better eh?
But I always find it refreshing when someone prefers indica.
Myself I cant decide, but I do know the most fantastic highs I've had were
from sativa's (oldies).

It would be interesting to discuss the more subtle differences between the highs of
sats and indi's (aside from body buzz/cerebral).

Once you get to really know a herb, you can notice what I call
"the effect within the effect",
Which is basically the background "vibe of the high".
You must find the herb that resonates the right frequency for your physiology
(So to speak, don't want to sound to far-out!)...

This herb will then be sweet to your mind and consistently give you
a warm, happy, euphoric feeling (behind the obvious high).
The "holy grail" is a personal thing, but with certain herbs a higher % of smokers will agree that it has a nice effect.

Real good herb like this is not like "smoking a drug".
It is wholesome and nourishing, it makes you feel whole and complete,
and does something very special and healing to the human body I think!
You will know when you get this herb!

If a particular type of herb doesn't suit you, doesn't "vibe with you",
then you may experience some "negative background" behind the high.

This is of course a lot to do with your mind state and setting etc.
But every herb has it's unique chemical make-up of all those terpenes and
cannabinoids all acting synergistic with the many receptors in our bodies.
Man taking a puff is so complex we don't realize!

Apologies if I've digressed a little KD!
But anyway, hope we have some more knowledgeable folks chime in to this thread and give their views.

Peace.
 
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KDee211

Member
yeah thanks for a big reply G, i'm a laid-back chill out guy you know, love the chill out weed vibin' and stuff you know, now i know whats up with that, thanks.
 
levant said:
Hi KD-

I love these topics,
I remember when we first started smoking herb me and my friends knew nothing of
sativa and indica, but we did experience different high's.
We named bud like "sleepy weed" or "happy weed"
When we learned about sativas and indicas we were fascinated with finding out the different effects, and still are.

Like you say it's not as simple as "couchlock" or "up"
There are so many subtleties.
The most tiring burnt out buzz Ive had was from a pure sativa.
And some Indica's have very clear-headed highs.

With mostly sativa hybrids, I find they feel sativa at first, but then the indica effects
creep in after, I really like most 75% sativa's I've tried,
I find its a good ratio.

Many people seem to like sativa's better eh?
But I always find it refreshing when someone prefers indica.
Myself I cant decide, but I do know the most fantastic highs I've had were
from sativa's (oldies).

It would be interesting to discuss the more subtle differences between the highs of
sats and indi's (aside from body buzz/cerebral).

Once you get to really know a herb, you can notice what I call
"the effect within the effect",
Which is basically the background "vibe of the high".
You must find the herb that resonates the right frequency for your physiology
(So to speak, don't want to sound to far-out!)...

This herb will then be sweet to your mind and consistently give you
a warm, happy, euphoric feeling (behind the obvious high).
The "holy grail" is a personal thing, but with certain herbs a higher % of smokers will agree that it has a nice effect.

Real good herb like this is not like "smoking a drug".
It is wholesome and nourishing, it makes you feel whole and complete,
and does something very special and healing to the human body I think!
You will know when you get this herb!

If a particular type of herb doesn't suit you, doesn't "vibe with you",
then you may experience some "negative background" behind the high.

This is of course a lot to do with your mind state and setting etc.
But every herb has it's unique chemical make-up of all those terpenes and
cannabinoids all acting synergistic with the many receptors in our bodies.
Man taking a puff is so complex we don't realize!

Apologies if I've digressed a little KD!
But anyway, hope we have some more knowledgeable folks chime in to this thread and give their views.

Peace.

Has a scientist ever studied the exact differences between sativa and indica strains? I'd like to know exactly why (i.e. the chemical constituents) indica is sedative in nature, while sativa is more exuberant. I've heard this line a thousand times on these forums and do believe it to be true, partly from personal experience.

I know that there is more than THC in weed, there's also CBD and maybe some other substances. Do we know what they are? Do certain varieties of pot contain caffeine or another stimulant, for instance? Many plants do... I think the lack of information on this subject is appalling, but prohibition is to blame. Once you've decided the plant is "bad" then that cripples any incentives to research it. Maybe California can lead the way in research one day.

I read a good paper on this subject a long time ago but forget what it was. :rasta:

I think most of the stuff around today is definitely indica and powerful too. But if you mix indica with another substance like caffeine, maybe you can get an "up" high just as if it were sativa? I find that caffeine has good synergy with weed but my experiments thus far are inconclusive. Also, caffeine is an appetite suppressant, which helps counter the munchies.
 
E

ElectroSticky

levant said:
I love these topics,

:laughing: .. i second that !!!!!

levant said:
Real good herb like this is NOT like "smoking a drug".
It is wholesome and nourishing, it makes you feel whole and complete,
and does something very special and healing to the human body I think!
You will know when you get this herb!

This is of course a lot to do with your mind state and setting etc.

Man taking a puff is so complex we don't realize!

You got it right !!!!!!
the high you recieve is always determined by the state of your mind & emotions. also ,it is not the same when you get related to a strain , it might be the bomb but after time , you`ll find VERY refreshing to try new varietys...

from what i think .... Sativas & indicas ...

they both have main obvious differences like leaf & bud .. but when talking about the ''High'' , it's really a personal thing ... and i find indicas to be more '' relaxing '' ....

but i do think....a well-done hybrid between real heirlooms must be the BOMB!!!!


levant said:
It would be interesting to discuss the more subtle differences between the highs of sats and indi's (aside from body buzz/cerebral).

levant said:
hope we have some more knowledgeable folks chime in to this thread and give their views.

:laughing: it would be indeed ....

let's hope some more experienced pot~heads decide to participate... jejejeje..... :friends:


:wave:
 

barletta

Bandaid
Veteran
levant said:
...Once you get to really know a herb, you can notice what I call
"the effect within the effect",
Which is basically the background "vibe of the high".
You must find the herb that resonates the right frequency for your physiology
.....

Damn dude, dead on. I have smoked SSH with people who can't stop smiling and talking about how good the herb is. To me, it's STRONG tasty haze. I feel that way about a hawaiian hybrid that I had, and other people kinda poo-pood it because it wasn't head crushing....give it 5 minutes..."Whoa barletta that joint has me lit..."

I let a Mango haze x widow get nice and fat and golden, and it was like anti-weed to me. I didn't want to smoke it. Made me feel like I didn't want to exist. Like I needed to sleep, but couldn't. 1 of my friends was BEGGING for more of that bud (I promised him the next batch....).

I find myself liking the sativa dom hybrids generally too. Things with old school skunk, hazes, africans. Your mindset/well-being has a lot to do with the herb's effects too, I think. I was in a good place coming into summer, and ALL of my herbs were 'happy' lol. Stressin a lil lately, and they are all 'edgy'. No herb with coffee.... (and I drink fuggin coffee all day, lol)

Keep in mind that the full expression (or waaaayyyy closer to it) of the bud can only be realized outdoor. I had a cut of Cannaloupe (possibly c99) that was racy and stinky inside. Outside, it was AWESOME. Full bodied haze type high, incredible smoke-leaveroom-comeback smell. Like different herbs. Same story with some Early Durban, OD - delicious, licoriche/bubblegum skunk, fat, beautiful nuggets; ID - Boring sweetness, commercial buds...

The first seeds that I bought were both Hawiian (MrN spice indy dom, sativaseedbk pakalolo sativa dom), cause I figgured what place on the planet is more perfect than that? Turns out, they both have a mellow "on vacation" feel to the high. Of course the taste is str8 from the islands.....

I am EXCITED to compare the taste/high from the indoor and outdoor Spice.
 
E

ElectroSticky

barletta said:
compare the taste/high from the indoor and outdoor


8/10 times ... outdoor & soil are better...... more reliable .. + there is NOTHING like the Sun ,after all , plants come from the outside ....

but then ...

there are those 2 ... those who have the indoor & hydro centered , to almost a science, that will effectively produce Obese , Medicinal , Strong :bashhead: , thric covered , stinky flowers !!!

but then again , not everithing is black or white .... :ying:

The High is the fine relation between Cannabinoids, terpenoids, and other compounds that are secreted by glandular trichomes that occur most abundantly on the floral calyxes of female plant... :canabis: & your mind/body :whip:

:smoweed:
 
H

Hazeseeker

barletta said:
Like I needed to sleep, but couldn't.
That's exactly what NL#5xHaze is like as well Barletta :rasta: , smoke a joint of this stuff any time after 11p.m and expect to hear the little birdies tweet tweeting at 4:30am when they're waking up and your still awake, it's like Viagra for the brain, stuff keeps you awake and alert :joint:

Peace
Hazeseeker
 
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barletta

Bandaid
Veteran
It didn't keep me up like a sativa, it was like the shitty all over feeling of being hungover/burnt from cookies the day before. The high was nice and sedative for ~30 seconds, then uuuuggghhhhh......I am going to smoke some of the clone in a few wks, and I have a BIG MW outside. I hope that I like it, as the pedegree is no joke.

I love that 'clean the kitchen' herb, lol. But I have found some plants too racy/edgy. Cannaloupe. I would take a few big hits, and get sweaty (like any good sativa), but my mind would just continue to race. I am not an anxious person, but ALMOST felt like a panic attack coming on (had a few a couple of years back, no idea why, none since..). I have not had this experience with any other properly finished strains, and have only had it with EARLY hazes (sucks not having weed..).

Me just love me some good haze!!!! I wish that I had access to the old school sativas to determine which part (colombian, mexican, asian, jamacian, etc..) I like the most. I have some bagseed going that is most likely mexican, so......

I remember the first time I smoked some DANK. Tasted like a pinecone, and made my eyes insta red/heavy eyelids. Asleep in 5-6 minutes, lol. LOVED it!!!
 

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