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light bleach outdoor??lol

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medusa22

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hi guys i got this plant from a friend who went on vacation, they were on a balcony taking sunlight through a window...

i placed them at my house in direct sunlight...i noticed the leafs were all droopy since the start and i dont know why as well...

noticed some nitrogen deficiency on the bottom leafs...with some burning...or deficiency...(gave a feed of biogrow low dosage 3ml/l)

i dont have ph meter atm...but they in soil anyways and im sure the solution im feeding is betwen 6 and 7...

i wanted to fix it...the leafs are all droopy so im waiting for the soil to dry a bit more betwen waterings...(maybe overwater?)

i started to pulverize today with a low dosage of magnesium and delta9(cannbiogen bloom stimulator)

i dont know the strain...neither i know how many days into blooming she is...(have them at home for about a week)

here are the pics,











as you can notice i low stress trained them , but i did that the first day she arrived...since then the cola didnt turned up like all my plants do...and leafs are droopy...(and they were already droopy at my friends house)

btw the buds are all flufy which sucks, and these white marks on the leafs only showed up after they came to my house...

is this light bleach the spots on the leafs?how can i stop light bleach from the sun?lol

thanks
 
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wikidcalibudgrl

wikidcalibudgrl

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I don't think light bleach is possible outdoors,, with out maybe droplets of water concentrating the suns rays on a particular spot... classic light bleaching looks way different. Had a lil of that on my first Hydro when the top colas/leaves were too close to the 1000wt'r.. LOL. Don't see it on any pics you posted though.
Looks to me like a classic case of Magnesium Def. See how it's paling (then browing/necortic) between the veins? The N looks OK though, it's overall a pretty green. I think the 'burn' per se is again the magnesium Def. as the lower leaves don't look pale compaired to the rest of the plant.
How's the drainage in that pot? How big is the pot also? from the looks of the first pic it looks pretty wet. How often are you watering?
 
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Dr. G

Dr. G

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it looks over fed thats what my leaves looked like after a huge feed then my co2 controller broke

but over feed also looks like def since it tec is a def
 
stinkyattic

stinkyattic

her dankness
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That's not light bleach. You get light bleaching when plants have gone directly from sitting under flouros to a full 6 hour day of direct sunlight, but the pattern is less distinctly striped and the damage appears more white than brown. If you want to see what it looks like, take the Ubiquitous Philodenron out of your living room (I know you've got one haha everyone does) and put it in the sun for 2 days...

That damage is consistent with soil salting and/or a significant pH drop.

Before you do ANYTHING!!!! FLush!!
I see you have given them magnesium in the liquid? Epsom salts? You will lock yourself out worse.
Pour 3 gallons of tap water at pH 6.8 through that plant right away, and if you want to feed Mg (yup that leaf striping is consistent with Mg being locked out, among other things), do it as a foliar spray one or 2 pinches of epsom salts in a quart spray bottle plus one drop liquid dish soap.
Next, give the plant a couple days to dry out and put it in a pot that is about 3 gallons. Use fresh, light soil. Water lightly with a bloom fertilizer mixed up about half strength. If all you have is box stores, Shultz Bloom Plus is acceptable. GO EASY.

Remember not to overwater, and happy gardening.
 
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medusa22

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i foliar feed them the mg, i cant change pots cause they not mine, and i think he might not like that...

the lower leafs cant be seen cause the plant is all droopy, but they more yellow, but without a burn, also have a funny texture kinda like soft plastic (cant describe it better)

they were never feed by him, only left in the pot for about 6 months and only feed 2 times, one with biogrow/delta9 (1.5 months ago) and another one 3 months before the second feed with goat menour or some shit like that (cant really tell)

About the ph i cant measure it cause my tester ran out, but the water over here is 7.5 ph so i put some of it with distiled in order to correct the ph when i add the ferts...so it cant drop much cause of the ph of the tap water :S

so should i still flush or maybe its lacking some good old ghe micro?


the droopiness is from overwatering then?(no deficiency cause droopiness?as i also know overwatering can cause N to get locked out)

thanks for the help

PS:i can measure the ec at the runoff the pot...but i would have to soak the soil once again, should i do it?
 
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medusa22

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if its worth for anything this if the first plant i see that barely has trichomes...i have a magnifier glass and i cant see the maturity of the plant (first plant that wasnt fit for my trichome watcher lol)
 
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medusa22

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yeah but hes out of the country atm so i cant ask him :S, and the first thing i told him was that i dont take care of plants without lst...its more a security issue cause they outdoor in my house so i have to keep them more short...(and these ones were huge )

the deficiency on the leafs is progressing...and spreading...maybe its heat stress cause i noticed a shiny surface reflecting the sun onto the leafs at 9am...can this be the cause?(magnifying glass efect?)

still i believe its something else cause of the white parts of the leafs...

thanks a lot ppl
 
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medusa22

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thats the hugest pot i have in the house lol, my other plants are all in smaller pots and some have the same size :S

and it cant be nute burn cause they were never feed....and i dont think they could be burning in hot soil for months and still get to this size :S

ill give them the nute solution with a higher ph then, and wait some more time before watering...she barely takes up water...

my plants take much much more water than this plant and most of them are much smaller...

thanks
 
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medusa22

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ive been pulverizing with co2 pills(2 days...they have magnesium on it)...should i add also epslon salts when the soil gets dry like a mofo lol?
will also give her the ghe nutes , micro bloom and grow, at half the dosage like it says on the package...
if its a micro issue, i could also pulverize the leafs with micro so the bud growth wont keep on getting stunted right?

the buds keep on developing but they soft like cotton...leafs still all droopy...

can it be a fungus on the roots due to overwatering or something like that?

PS:is it normal for a plant at this stage to barely have no trichomes?i cant tell the maturity of her cause she has barely no trichomes and the ones she has are so small i cant judge the maturity...

thanks
 
stinkyattic

stinkyattic

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DIGITALHIPPY said:
HUH?!!!! your kidding right??? try nute burn..... in the small pot nute burn is worse.
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Re-read the post you quoted before telling me I'm worng on this. SOUR SOIL. That soil is crap- looks scorched and locked out by low pH and possibly metal salting of some sort. Both conditions become aggravated in the presence of excessive moisture and insufficient space. If you add cold temps to it, it's even WORSE.

If you look at post#5 I said soil salting and pH problems there, too.

What's this CO2 tablets you're on about Medusa? And they've got magnesium? I'm concerned. Whatever you do, DON'T feed Epsom salts in the water of a plant that is already locked out.

You NEED to flush with plain water at correct pH, and not water so often. The plant needs a correct 'bloom' fert that contains micronutrients. I would personally use one that contains some humic acid, like Pure Blend Pro Bloom, because HA is a chelator and your soil is probably full of excess crap. A chelator will help keep it from interfering with your ferts, and building up in the soil, especially if you water to runoff. But let your soil dry out a little in between waterings!

That plant has been fed with something since it is not showing the characteristic pale low leaves of an N def. The soil was most likely a pre-fertilized one, with the wrong ratio of ferts for flowering. The leaves are deep green, but with severe def/lockout striping. You can give a foliar feed of a weak solution of epsom salts (a half teaspoon or so in a quart spray bottle), but the brown necrotic patches are not going to go away- that damage is already done. Concentrate on providing the best possible conditions for the plant for the rest of its life so the problem doesn't continue to get worse.
 
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medusa22

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oh ok, ill try to flush it tomorrow after i leave the soil to dry...

i used biobloom from iobizz, and ghe formula for soil...

im spraying with a mixture of delta9(bloom enhancer for foliar feed, and co2 tabswith magnesium)

thanks a lot guys
 
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