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I thought it was pretty good. Wish batman's voice was different. Missed katie holmes. Excellent explosions though.
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Batman the Dark Knight, anyone see it yet?
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buttyrekka
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3dDream no nooo noooooo noooooo nnooooooooooooooooooooooooo...that cannot be true!!!!!...please god dont let it happen robocop is a classic!!
Batman's voice way over the top...
Batman's voice way over the top...
I had said this way earlier on 7/21, now I read this article that confirms I wasn't "nuts":
http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20080803/121779624000.html
From: Yahoo! Movies: Movie News;
All AP Movie News
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Monday Movie Buzz: Bale's Batman voice too much?
Sunday August 3 1:44 PM ET
Though "The Dark Knight" has been a bona fide cultural event, boasting rave reviews and boffo box office, it hasn't been immune to criticism. Some have quibbled with its political undercurrents, and others have criticized a muddled theme.
But here's the critique most widely held: Why does Batman talk like the offspring of Clint Eastwood and a grizzly bear?
Donning the costume for the second time, Christian Bale has delved deeper into the lower registers. As Bruce Wayne, his voice is as smooth as his finely pressed suits. But once he puts the cape on, the transformation of his vocal chords is just as dramatic as his costume change.
Particularly when his rage boils over, Bale's Batman growls in an almost beastly fashion, reflecting how close he teeters between do-gooder and vengeance-crazed crusader.
"The Dark Knight" hauled in $43.8 million to rank as Hollywood's top movie for the third straight weekend, fending off "The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor" which opened a close second with $42.5 million. It has earned $394.9 million in just 17 days, according to studio estimates Sunday.
Though much of the voice effect is Bale's own doing, under the guidance of director Christopher Nolan and supervising sound editor Richard King, the frequency of his Batman voice was modulated to exaggerate the effect.
Critics and fans have noticed.
"His Batman rasps his lines in a voice that's deeper and hammier than ever," said NPR's David Edelstein.
The New Yorker's David Denby praised the urgency of Bale's Batman, but lamented that he "delivers his lines in a hoarse voice with an unvarying inflection."
Reviewing the film for MSNBC, Alonso Duralde wrote that Bale's Batman in "Batman Begins" "sounded absurdly deep, like a 10-year-old putting on an `adult' voice to make prank phone calls. This time, Bale affects an eerie rasp, somewhat akin to Brenda Vaccaro doing a Miles Davis impression."
Before the similes run too far afield, it's worth considering where the concept of a throaty Batman comes from.
In his portrayal on the `60s "Batman" TV series, Adam West didn't alter his voice between Bruce Wayne and Batman. Decades later when Tim Burton brought "Batman" to the big screen in a much darker incarnation, Michael Keaton's inflection was notably but not considerably different from one to the other.
But it was a lesser-known actor who, a few years after Burton's film, made perhaps the most distinct imprint on Batman's voice. Kevin Conroy, as the voice of the animated Batman in various projects from 1992's "Batman: The Animated Series" right up until this year's "Batman: Gotham Knight," brought a darker, raspier vocalization to Batman.
Conroy has inhabit the role longer than anyone else and though animated voice-over work doesn't have the same cachet as feature film acting, there are quarters where Conroy is viewed as the best Batman of them all certainly superior to Val Kilmer or George Clooney.
The animated series are notable because they drew on the DC Comics of Batman as envisioned by Frank Miller, whose work heavily informs "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight." (Bale and Nolan were unavailable to comment for this story.)
As Batman has gotten darker, his voice has gotten deeper. As some critics suggest, Bale and "The Dark Knight" may have reached a threshold, at least audibly.
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On the Net:
http://thedarkknight.warnerbros.com
Batman's voice way over the top...
accessndx said:
I had said this way earlier on 7/21, now I read this article that confirms I wasn't "nuts":
http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20080803/121779624000.html
From: Yahoo! Movies: Movie News;
All AP Movie News
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Monday Movie Buzz: Bale's Batman voice too much?
Sunday August 3 1:44 PM ET
Though "The Dark Knight" has been a bona fide cultural event, boasting rave reviews and boffo box office, it hasn't been immune to criticism. Some have quibbled with its political undercurrents, and others have criticized a muddled theme.
But here's the critique most widely held: Why does Batman talk like the offspring of Clint Eastwood and a grizzly bear?
Donning the costume for the second time, Christian Bale has delved deeper into the lower registers. As Bruce Wayne, his voice is as smooth as his finely pressed suits. But once he puts the cape on, the transformation of his vocal chords is just as dramatic as his costume change.
Particularly when his rage boils over, Bale's Batman growls in an almost beastly fashion, reflecting how close he teeters between do-gooder and vengeance-crazed crusader.
"The Dark Knight" hauled in $43.8 million to rank as Hollywood's top movie for the third straight weekend, fending off "The Mummy: Tomb of the Dragon Emperor" which opened a close second with $42.5 million. It has earned $394.9 million in just 17 days, according to studio estimates Sunday.
Though much of the voice effect is Bale's own doing, under the guidance of director Christopher Nolan and supervising sound editor Richard King, the frequency of his Batman voice was modulated to exaggerate the effect.
Critics and fans have noticed.
"His Batman rasps his lines in a voice that's deeper and hammier than ever," said NPR's David Edelstein.
The New Yorker's David Denby praised the urgency of Bale's Batman, but lamented that he "delivers his lines in a hoarse voice with an unvarying inflection."
Reviewing the film for MSNBC, Alonso Duralde wrote that Bale's Batman in "Batman Begins" "sounded absurdly deep, like a 10-year-old putting on an `adult' voice to make prank phone calls. This time, Bale affects an eerie rasp, somewhat akin to Brenda Vaccaro doing a Miles Davis impression."
Before the similes run too far afield, it's worth considering where the concept of a throaty Batman comes from.
In his portrayal on the `60s "Batman" TV series, Adam West didn't alter his voice between Bruce Wayne and Batman. Decades later when Tim Burton brought "Batman" to the big screen in a much darker incarnation, Michael Keaton's inflection was notably but not considerably different from one to the other.
But it was a lesser-known actor who, a few years after Burton's film, made perhaps the most distinct imprint on Batman's voice. Kevin Conroy, as the voice of the animated Batman in various projects from 1992's "Batman: The Animated Series" right up until this year's "Batman: Gotham Knight," brought a darker, raspier vocalization to Batman.
Conroy has inhabit the role longer than anyone else and though animated voice-over work doesn't have the same cachet as feature film acting, there are quarters where Conroy is viewed as the best Batman of them all certainly superior to Val Kilmer or George Clooney.
The animated series are notable because they drew on the DC Comics of Batman as envisioned by Frank Miller, whose work heavily informs "Batman Begins" and "The Dark Knight." (Bale and Nolan were unavailable to comment for this story.)
As Batman has gotten darker, his voice has gotten deeper. As some critics suggest, Bale and "The Dark Knight" may have reached a threshold, at least audibly.
___
On the Net:
http://thedarkknight.warnerbros.com
*spoiler alert*
*spoiler alert*
Yeah i thoroughly enjoyed this movie and thought the joker was damn near spot-on... the near 3 hours whizzed past.
Did we really need the references to the 'war on terror'?
For example the joker is referred to as a terrorist (which is fair enough)
But... then we have the batman beating the crap out of the joker in a police interview room to discover the location of the bombs... (good reason for torture?) and one of the explosions is a perfect mushroom cloud. Not to mention the use of cellphones to spy on an entire city...
Is this propaganda or a reflection of the times?
*spoiler alert*
Yeah i thoroughly enjoyed this movie and thought the joker was damn near spot-on... the near 3 hours whizzed past.
Did we really need the references to the 'war on terror'?
For example the joker is referred to as a terrorist (which is fair enough)
But... then we have the batman beating the crap out of the joker in a police interview room to discover the location of the bombs... (good reason for torture?) and one of the explosions is a perfect mushroom cloud. Not to mention the use of cellphones to spy on an entire city...
Is this propaganda or a reflection of the times?
dude06version
Member
batmans voice is dead on.. its called being smart and hiding your identity.this isnt the fake ass 1960s batman where he talks in the same voice all the time..he wasnt trying to sound badass.
Clint Eastwood LoL Batman is GW Bush & the Joker is the Terrorist.
mellofello
Active member
The joker was amazing, batman was his usual average self though. Morgan freeman was ace too. Really like the film even if the first one was shit.
How about a magic trick? I'm going to make this pencil disappear....
In TDK, Bale's Batman spoke in a gritty voice to conceal his identity. It was to remove any semblance to his actual voice as much as possible.
Ledger's Joker was superbly acted. It was gritty and raw. This time, Nolan wanted to create a much darker version of the Joker, to parallel the transformation Batman would go through to save Gotham. In Gotham, the Joker represented chaos in his acts of violence and destruction and corruption in his conversion of Dent into Two-face, and Batman and Harvey Dent were attempting to restore order to their city.
TDK was masterfully crafted and each scene had a revelation about the plot or a subtle character note of some sort, or just revealed an interesting bit of exposition or developed the characters.
If you didn't enjoy it, you probably would have enjoyed something like Iron Man a bit better, which had shitty directing, amateurish dialogue writing and poor attempts at meshing humor and love into an action flick. Robert Downey Jr. saved that movie. It was a cliche piece of shit in my mind.
Go see TDK if you want, you'll enjoy it if you enjoy good films.
Ledger's Joker was superbly acted. It was gritty and raw. This time, Nolan wanted to create a much darker version of the Joker, to parallel the transformation Batman would go through to save Gotham. In Gotham, the Joker represented chaos in his acts of violence and destruction and corruption in his conversion of Dent into Two-face, and Batman and Harvey Dent were attempting to restore order to their city.
TDK was masterfully crafted and each scene had a revelation about the plot or a subtle character note of some sort, or just revealed an interesting bit of exposition or developed the characters.
If you didn't enjoy it, you probably would have enjoyed something like Iron Man a bit better, which had shitty directing, amateurish dialogue writing and poor attempts at meshing humor and love into an action flick. Robert Downey Jr. saved that movie. It was a cliche piece of shit in my mind.
Go see TDK if you want, you'll enjoy it if you enjoy good films.
Best quote from Joker: "I have no plans. I'm like a dog chasing cars, I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it." They way he says it is so hilarious.
Yes, it was good. The main point is that things happen, good or bad. The Joker follows this line of thinking and does what he wants; it just so happens he is the bad in the world.
Yes, it was good. The main point is that things happen, good or bad. The Joker follows this line of thinking and does what he wants; it just so happens he is the bad in the world.
mexicanmafia said:i hate how batman talks in the movie so like trying too hard and does that thing w/ the lips while he's talking like trying to look/sound hard......... hehehehehe......
the movie was good! 8.5-9/10 ........ ledger did a very great jobloved the crazy crackhead looking joker!
the watchmen previews looked great....... gonna go watch that too when it comes out...
peace!
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I too hate the way batman sounded. Although i love bale as an actor. American Psycho was the best.
As for Joker..give the man an oscar..Seriously some of the best acting i have ever seen. He got lost in it..
dude06version said:
My friend just said the same thing to me. But come on..it's a man in a friggin bat suit. You can only make Batman so realistic. Plus most people with any kind of eye would have noticed him by his jaw.
For the voice i would have gone with something else. If it is realism you are after..try a different movie.
TheGoodStuff
Member
Kicked ass.
