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GH and GHE - Big problem for EU constumers

gramsci.antonio

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lilo said:
Yes there is soft and hard micro available, at least in Germany

yes, but both have no Ca or Mg percentage shown....


Please, could you check the percentages of the micronutrients in the micro with the one i posted before?

I don't need the data, i need just to know if there's any variation....


And moreover: Are your bottles labeled GHE, not GH, aren't they?
 

micko-uk

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Hiya all

This ones gone dead, but us boys in europe need this sorted. I have put on the 3 lables
from what is sold in eu all GHE but not sure if or anything is short or missing from the GH
you have in the states. Im doing h3ads 6s/w
9 bloom in r/o but some girls, look like there lacking something there pale.






 

gramsci.antonio

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i contacted their support, and they told me:

you have a different result because It's calculeted by weight and when you put 1 liter you have the result for 1 kg but the weight of the liquid in one bottle is 1,2 kg.
It makes a difference of 20%.
[...]
It's the same formula in all the world.

still i can't understand why the US is 5-0-1 and the EU is 4-0-2
 

Jacksparrow

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gramsci.antonio said:
i contacted their support, and they told me:



still i can't understand why the US is 5-0-1 and the EU is 4-0-2

Even if that were the case...

It's not listed on the bottle....regardless of what unit of measure you use.

0 is 0 the world over :smoke:

Good Lookin' out Grams! :respect:

Have Fun
 

knna

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you have a different result because It's calculeted by weight and when you put 1 liter you have the result for 1 kg but the weight of the liquid in one bottle is 1,2 kg.

Its a really silly answer from a costumer service. NPK ratios arnt related at all to liters or gallons. If composition is the same, NPK relationship must be the same. Actual numbers may vary, but not the ratios.

Apart of it, its true that taking into account the weight is a must to get accurate results, as quarantee composition is offered by weight (some others offers it by volume).
 

gramsci.antonio

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knna said:
Its a really silly answer from a costumer service. NPK ratios arnt related at all to liters or gallons. If composition is the same, NPK relationship must be the same. Actual numbers may vary, but not the ratios.

Apart of it, its true that taking into account the weight is a must to get accurate results, as quarantee composition is offered by weight (some others offers it by volume).

yeah, i yet emailed the same very question to him.
 
I made a comparing showing the analyses differences between flora series US and EU:


The US data is from cannastats and the EU from my bottles.
As you can see there are many differences, but why?? And when the answer "same formula in all the world" is true, why do they write a wrong label??
 
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gramsci.antonio

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i think the guy who answered me didn't know a shit about what he was speaking about...


Please everybody send an email to GHE, so we can confront the answers.
 

micko-uk

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OK boys & gals

Just looked at the Lucas thread and hes saying that the gh flora nova bloom is spot on & that's what he suggests, but that is for f/d.
Now h3ads has re worked that to allow for the p&k
in the coco, but i think us in the EU are lacking something has looking at the chart reveals (good
fucking chart ) . So have any of you lot got a breakdown of the nova range US / EU lets see if anything is shot or missing. I wish h3ads was not indisposed he could sort this problem out,,,r/o water is ( almost ) the same all over world its just the nutes.
 
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gramsci.antonio

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Hey boys,

if all of us would send an email to them, i think the will feel the spice up their ass, and will relase some more info.

Actually the math chart on their website disagree with their label, we need some info more!!!!!!
 

micko-uk

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Hiya you lot,,

Can some one send h3ad a pm and ask for some input, this prob is right up hes street. I don't have enough post to send a pm, but sure do want to sort it out. Seeing i had some h/w micro i tried a run on 6 girls with my crappy tap water they did look a lot better, but i don't really want to go down this road with all the other shit in it. So come boys & gals lets get this sorted, i don't think
gh will help you need to get past sales and talk to
the main man. Good luck all.
 
llllllloooooollll!!! wtf!! I have the same GHE bottle with the "new label same formula" hint and MgO is labeled 2,5% and not 3% as yours. There are minimum of four labels outside with a different analyses!!! Are they kidding us?
 
The chaos goes on: Today I saw Flora Series in a grow shop showing flora gro 3-1-7. Every week a new label now. I'm so tired of GH!
 

gramsci.antonio

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german_aero said:
The chaos goes on: Today I saw Flora Series in a grow shop showing flora gro 3-1-7. Every week a new label now. I'm so tired of GH!

i'm really starting to get pissed off with GHE!!!


I'm thinking about changing the nutrient line....

what else to choose?
 

Durbanplaya

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Obviously this is a really really old thread and maybe the answer is somewhere else already. However, I could not find it and have just worked out the difference in lables!

From what I can tell the EU lists soluble CaO, MGO. Where the US list the ingredients as their usable form such as Ca, Mg.

Maybe someone with more knowledge can chime in on this conversion difference from CaO to Ca...
 
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