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How stupid can a person be?

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Hello, Is This a Grow House? Detectives Knock on Doors in Drug Search


Halle Stockton
July 8, 2008
Herald-Tribune
DUETTE — A few tips came in to detectives Wednesday about possible marijuana grow houses in northeast Manatee County.

The next day, sheriff's detectives showed up at the front doors without warrants or evidence to ask to take a look around.

Surprisingly, the residents of two homes on the same block gave detectives the OK to search their properties, where the detectives happened upon "elaborate" indoor grow operations, each boasting several marijuana plants.

The procedure is called a "knock and talk," and any law enforcement officer can do it, said sheriff's Sgt. Dennis Romano.

Tips can come from another agency or a skeptical neighbor. As long as the investigator is at the front door, determines the person answering is a tenant or owner of the residence and receives permission to search the property, it is legal, Romano said.

"If we knock on the door and they say 'no,' we have to turn around and leave," he said. "... When you're not in law enforcement, sometimes you don't realize you can say 'no.'"

Resident permission to search a home is enough, according to Florida statute, Romano said. During a knock and talk, authorities do not even have to specify what they are looking for.

"We don't offer any more information than we need to, at least until we get to the fruit of the matter," said Romano, supervisor of the Special Investigations Strategic Unit, which conducted the two marijuana busts Thursday morning at two homes in the 30700 block of Taylor Grade Road.

Detectives got tips about the grow houses from the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office.

They knocked, they talked and they found 24 full-grown marijuana plants and 60 seedlings, high-intensity lighting, a watering system and other growing equipment in the 30720 Taylor Grade Road home occupied by Jorge Luis Aguila-Seara, 37. The street value of the plants was determined to be about $126,000.

Authorities give every plant, including seedlings, a value of $1,500, Romano said.

About 45 minutes later, detectives moved down the street to 30710 Taylor Grade Road, where they spoke with homeowner Barbaro Lopez Hernandez, 32, and tenant Rafael Guzman Noda, 40. After being given consent, detectives found 94 marijuana plants, with a street value of about $141,000, and growing equipment in an outbuilding.

All three men signed search waivers before the detectives scoured the properties.

They were charged with trafficking in marijuana by cultivation. A bill signed into law in June to toughen penalties for marijuana grow houses in Florida makes it a second-degree felony carrying up to 15 years in prison if someone is convicted of growing 25 or more plants. The sentence previously applied to growers with 300 or more plants.

Another knock and talk at a possible grow house in Bradenton last week was not as successful, Romano said.

"The people there didn't let us in, and they up and moved on us in the middle of the night, completely disappeared," he said.

This more informal investigative procedure is common in drug investigations, as well as for warrants and many other crimes, Romano said.

"We don't always do everything undercover because it either doesn't pay off or takes too long," he said.
 

devilgoob

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Another knock and talk at a possible grow house in Bradenton last week was not as successful, Romano said.

"The people there didn't let us in, and they up and moved on us in the middle of the night, completely disappeared," he said.

fuckin hilarious :)
 
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CheifnBud2

Dont they have anything productive to do with their lives?

If so nearly all grows would be personal and not for commercial purposes.
 

C6H6

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this makes me happy, stupid people getting caught all the while distracting attention away from me.
 

green_grow

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it's a genuine shame and a terrible injustice that people are actually imprisoned for growing a fairly mild herb.

no real harm done in this case however, as the perpetrators must be only dimly aware of their own existence, and their incarceration will hardly register on their conciousness.
 
from the sound of the names of the guys that were busted they probably didnt speak very good english and surely dont know there rights kinda sad if i wasnt from this country and i came to it and started doing something illegal i would research it even with a language barrier.
 

greenhead

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If those dumbasses would have visited this forum and read the security section, the dumbasses would still have their plants and grow intact. Growing weed may be illegal, but I can't feel sorry for dumbasses and moronic asshats.

:joint: :wave:
 

Dr Dog

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126 000 dollars

Just think about that, If I could easily make 126k with 12 plants, i would have been retired 5 years ago LOL

That is just an insane amount, where do they think all this money goes. Besides the guys, with pot caves and the such, who is actually getting rich growing weed
 

9Lives

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I they do the knock and talk..you do the up and move.

^the moral of this story
 

CANNACO-OP

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Heard a story, which again, just maybe a story.....about of the same type of thing.....expect the cops did the knock and knock and stood by the door for a long time.....then knocked and knocked.....said same type thing, can we look......guy says no.......cops says we can get warrant.......guy says go ahead.......cops say we wait here while get it.......says knock again when you got it.......

hour goes by......they stood there......dude has garbage day.....rottenist shit he had,, several bags....lazy about going.....anyways......high officers...i gotta go to the dump.........so loads up the garbage and away they go.......................

obvious once @dump public? property.....so he chucks his garbage and cops pull it out and start going through it........and then new the gig was up.......cuz it was shit!!!! haha


tips go both ways, remember that!
 

whiterabbit9

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I am posting this without reading the thread ( I will after )

To answer your question... how stupid can a person be ??

pretty f****** stupid
 

sneakinman13

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not that i don't think it was stupid of them to let the officers in.
but some of you guys are being a bit harsh towards these ppl who where giving are state a lil bit more green to smoke.. even if it was some bunk haze.... lol

these ppl face serious problems now and my best goes out to them....
stay safe everyone
 
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silent_lemon

Authorities give every plant, including seedlings, a value of $1,500, Romano said.

half a pound per plant? bow SHEET
 

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