need higher yields.... should i tie down my outdoor plant??

[Marcellas]

it was a clone i got from a friend that i put out in april.. i topped her after she rooted outside and she revegged after that so it halted the growth for awhile, so now she has 2 main branches and the plants only about 1.5feet tall. i need to get more nutes, i know what to get..

im pretty sure she'll start budding in about 2 weeks.. so do you guys think id get higher yields by tieing down the 2 main branches opposite ways so they get more light?? what else can i do to increase yields?? thanks

 

[Pseudo]

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[Whatever]

so do you guys think id get higher yields by tieing down the 2 main branches opposite ways so they get more light??

It's a little late for that but will still provide some benefit.

 

[Drt9288]

I agree with Pseudo, show a pic.... but all in all, L.S.T is good for all i think.. But it also depends on personal prefrences... Good luck

 

[FreezerBoy]

I didn't wait for flowering but, that's how I "discovered" lst on my own. My plant was outgrowing the 6' fence so, in desperation, I bent the top to the ground. Every stem took off and tried to outgrow the fence. EEK! So I tied all of them down. Every shoot from every stem tried to outgrow the fence! Fortunately, shortening days forced her into flower before she could.

By the time she was done, she was a 8' x 12' x 6' block of bud. I miss outdoor growing.

You won't see that kind of growth this late but, I imagine it will help some.

 

[Marcellas]

i wanted to tie her down earlier but i wanted to see how tall i could get her. i slacked on nutes a bit so along with the topping and revegging, slowed her down a bit.. i shouldv tied her earlier but i think im still gonna try tying down the two tall branches seperate ways.. good idea??

 

[hoosierdaddy]

Yes tie them down, and be careful you don't break them.
I kept tying my plants down even after budding last year. Works fine.
You'll know when to stop.

This one got started as it went into the ground. Never got more than 2.5' tall, prolly 5'-6' wide.

 

[Whatever]

A technique you can use to make branches more flexible is firmly grab an internode with one hand and with the other hand firmly grab the next internode up then twist in opposite directions until you hear and feel a pop. DO NOT try and bend the branch but just twist like you are wringing a towel. You can do this with branches as big as your hands/wrists can handle. Move up to the next set of internodes and twist in the opposite direction. You can twist all the internodes in the same direction if you want to bend the branch in a that particular direction.

This technique makes the branch more more flexible, takes about 4 weeks to fully heal and I usually avoid doing it once in flower.

 

[Marcellas]

bump....
any other ways to increase yields?? ill tie her down tommorow.. thanks again

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

bump....
any other ways to increase yields?? ill tie her down tommorow.. thanks again

Once she is tied down, she grows many heads, pull these apart a bit to let in more light and give the plant a bigger surface area, taking in more sun.

I have plants almost 2m x 2m wide x 1.4m high that would be pushing 3m high if left alone, "impressively tall" plants in the classic Christmas Tree shape are far more likely to get spotted and a huge fat central cola is more likely to rot.

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

As said, tie down the branches.

Also, if any light sources are close by, eliminate them. Backyard lights, street lights and such often interfer with the flowering when growing outdoors in semi-rural areas.

Apart from that, keep her as healthy as possible, protect her against pests and herbivores.

Yield depends mainly on how you prepare the grow. If you want more than you expect to get, then plant another one.

 

[Marcellas]

isnt it too late to start more outside?? im at about 43degrees north, they start budding soon.. im starting some seeds for indoors now..

also im going out to tie the 2 main branches opposite ways in a few minutes.. im using fishing line and fishing sinkers (they're small lead weights) to weigh down the branches. this is fine right?? thanks for the help guys id be happy with a half ounce of this girl

 

[Whatever]

isnt it too late to start more outside?? im at about 43degrees north, they start budding soon.. im starting some seeds for indoors now..

also im going out to tie the 2 main branches opposite ways in a few minutes.. im using fishing line and fishing sinkers (they're small lead weights) to weigh down the branches. this is fine right?? thanks for the help guys id be happy with a half ounce of this girl

Not too late if they are rooted clones.

Yeah...the lead sinkers will do just fine. Just leave a large loop of fishing line and don't tie it tight around the branch. Just about anything really to weigh it down will work. I've used those large office supply binder clips too.

 

[Marcellas]

done job..
i used the fishing line and bent the 2 main branches opposite ways and stuck the sinkers in the ground. the branches are almost completely horizantal, i bent them a little closer to the ground cause i know they'll grow up.. only problem is i tied pretty tight knots arround the branches with the fishing line, is that a problem??

i also noticed a rasberry bush near my plant so ive been squishing a lot of them arround the base of my plants stem and covering them in grass/plants.. she seems to like them!!

and i doubt i could get more clones now, id be starting from seed.. i got pics/video of my plant outside on my phone, ill hook them up soon. any more tips woulds be great!!

 

[dbfr3sh]

im starting a shit load of seeds now. im germinating like 30 bag seeds and plant them straight in the ground. Obviously they dnt grow big or yield much but with having so many of them and not bothering to take care of them, its worth the initial effort. They dnt get much bigger than like a foot or so. I go back mid to end of august and cut out anything male looking. Its great for some shit to smoke as the winter approches.



and about the fishing line....i WOULD NOT recommend that. The force on the line on the plants stem will cut into the tissue and im not a scientist but i doubt thats good. I use cotton yarn and wooden cloths line pins and step them into the dirt. Works well and with the soft cotton it doesnt cut the plant. I would said cut that stuff off right away.

 

[Marcellas]

too late

 

[Whatever]

only problem is i tied pretty tight knots arround the branches with the fishing line, is that a problem??

Yes

and about the fishing line....i WOULD NOT recommend that. The force on the line on the plants stem will cut into the tissue and im not a scientist but i doubt thats good. I use cotton yarn and wooden cloths line pins and step them into the dirt. Works well and with the soft cotton it doesnt cut the plant. I would said cut that stuff off right away.

Yeah you're right...my error. I have used the green flexible tape a lot but also the green plastic coated wire, indoors, to pull aside smaller branched with no problem. With larger branches where you're holding back a lot of weight yes yarn/twine/green tape/etc. Most of the time though I break the branches down like I mentioned, bend over and tie to stakes.

too late

Too late for what? Don't mind it if there's some damage. Is that what you're saying? Hell...I've take tops late in flower and supercropped em, almost broke em in half and they were fine.

 

[Marcellas]

no i'm saying its too late on the fishing line. i already tied it in pretty tight knots arround the 2 main branches and bend them opposite ways so the only way id really be able to get the fishing line off is by burning it and risking harm to my girl.. im not too worried though, i doubt the stems at the top of the branches will get much fatter.

any more advice?? thanks again

 

[ChaosCatalunya]

Ditto dbfr3sh on the damage fishing line will do.


Here farmers buy hollow plastic tubing to tie trees down [Olive and Almond] as the soft plastic does not damage the tree's stem, you can do this easily with bits of carrier bags, it will gently pull the plant over, not cut into it.


Cuttings are good to put out late, seedlings, not, you could even take a few bottom shoots off your big plants if you have no "mothers" around

 

[Whatever]

no i'm saying its too late on the fishing line. i already tied it in pretty tight knots arround the 2 main branches and bend them opposite ways so the only way id really be able to get the fishing line off is by burning it and risking harm to my girl.. im not too worried though, i doubt the stems at the top of the branches will get much fatter.

any more advice?? thanks again

It's not the issue about the stems getting fatter but possibly the thin line slowly cutting through the branch. The more weight/pressure on the branch the faster it'll happen/worse it'll be. If tied tight around a growing branch...they're actually ALL still growing at least to some extent...for sure it'd be a real problem. You could even run that fishing line through something like a drinking straw or like 1/4" pvc tube or even electrical shrink tubing.

You can just carefully slip the corner of a fresh sharp utility knife blade under the loop. Can easily cut off with some trimming scissors also.