Organic coco club

[SilverSurfer_OG]

I have just made a 40 litre batch with roughly:

60% coco
20% perlite
10% blend of wormcastings,
10% recycled charcoal/coco mix
4 handfulls of dry ferts - composted chicken poo, blood n bone/kelp meal
2 Handfulls dolomite lime.
1 handful Azomite

I have found coco a very forgiving medium to use but dry ferts dont seem to keep em going for very long... they love to feed!. Personally i always keep my ph pen handy because i like to mix up different batches.

Issues i have faced have been coco drying out in smaller pots which is fixed with a tray to catch run-off. I am thinking of using 'hempy' pots for next round. Just make sure you soak and rinse coco bricks.

Charcoal and coco go together well and i have had good results outdoors.

Now i am fine-tuning my indoors, few different strains but they all love the coco!

 

[NPK]

Nice man! That second shot is spectacular.

 

[jaykush]

yea that last shot is awesome, good stuff!

 

[sophisto]

Thanks for sharing your mix brother....And ditto that last pic is beautiful

I am going with this mix here, they all got transpalnted this weekend...
(per 5 gallons)
-3 parts coco
-1 part compost/used soil
-dry ferts Dr earth 4-4-4 @ 1/4 cup and 4-10-7 @ slightly less than 1/4 cup and 1/8th cup of Alfalfa meal....The above mixes are complete mixes containing all kins of goodies...
- 8 tbsp of Dolomite.
-1/4 dose sul-po-mag
-1 gallon perlite

I'm pretty excited as since this weekend those ladies are taking off ...They look alot more vigorous as well.....I cant say yet whether it's the coco mix and the extra air that coco brings to the table or the larger pot size but who can complain about increased vigour.....Not me....

 

[happysun]

wow this is definitely my forum...

After experimenting with peat soil and then coco hydro, i've finally found my favorite method with coco and organic dry ferts. Its so low maintanence! thanks to burn1. I've also found that coco based soil recycles really well. My grows are getting better and better with the recycled soil. I never ever worry about ph anymore and I haven't had any deficiencies! Its also impossible to overwater.

How is your grow going sophisto?

 

[tejashidrow]

When i grew (as i call) soiless soil, i used the VON recipe
1 part top/potting soil
1 part peralite
1 part mushroom compost OR wormcastings
1 table spoon dolimite...
Pure Blend Pro Boom Soil
Now, how does takeing out the soil and replaceing with coco sound???
Now before youse all start yelling at me, i realize this is NOT a organic mix or fert...
Just wanted some opions from those who may know.... THANKS pax

 

[fisher15]

^^I see nothing wrong with that, should work great.

Big fan of coco + compost and/or EWC and teas

 

[C21H30O2]

has anyone tried multiple watering/feedings a day with teas and an amended coco mix (ewc) i was thinking of doing this with ewc made with coco as the worm bedding. i think multiple watering each day is where coco really shows its growing power but i also want to be all organic (not from the bottle) and use ewc.

 

[dirkdaddy]

consider me part of the club. gonna be trying my hand at using LC's mix with coir and recipe #1 as outlined by the beginners guide. nice thread I am glad I found it!

 

[lovelightpower]

yeah man, i'm experimenting with coco mixes too.
i'm potting my 2-3 week veg cuttings (in 1.5L pots) into this mix (into 6.5L pots) then put them in the flowering room;
coco 5L
1-2 handfulls of EWC
2 tablespoons of flowering guano
1tsp of high N guano
1 tablespoon of maxi-crop seaweed meal
1 tablespoon of maxi-crop cal-mag seaweed meal
1-2 handfulls of glacial rock dust
1 tbls bone meal
tbls of friendly fungi

 

[Brain]

Gonna convert my table to a bed and fill with Royal Gold Basement Mix. Basement mix in basically coco, worm castingings, perlite and turkey shit, maybe some other stuff but it is made to water/feed everyday. I'm not planning on amending it further because I will be feeding every watering with all organic bottled nutes. Some good info in this thread but not much on what to feed with. A lot of talk a bout amendments. Right now I'm going to go with Mr. Danks recipe plus liquid karma. Any thoughts guys?

I started out growing organically in soil then moved to coco with chem nutes, floranova. I love the fast growth rate but the flavor was lacking until I began cutting back the chem nutes and adding some organics to the res. Now I want to go all organic and but I don't want to lose yield so I'm going with the bed. I will leave the coco in there and replace and amend as needed for further grow and will just yank the root ball. Well thats the plan anyways.

Any feed back on my plan would be appreciated.

 

[C21H30O2]

My organic coco grow:
10% ewc
1 tbsp/g of : blood meal, kelp meal, dolomite lime, rare earth.
top dressing of perilite, hydroton at the bottom for drainage.
drip feed twice a day with de-chlorinated tap water and 1/2 ounce humic acid (18 gallon reservoir).
Fed organic teas two to three times a week.

 

[cornflake]

tagged

 

[swampdank]

Whoa! Thanks for the bump!

Count me in. This thread needs to stay alive as alot of growers are going coco/organic.

I just found that adding compost can stagnate the medium if you are not careful. I added 1 part mushroom compost to 3 parts coco and for some reason, my seedplants were looking kinda pale. Actually, really pale. The cuttings that I transplanted into coco are doing awesome. The only difference is the coco medium that the clones are in has no compost.

Seems strangs but this is my expirience so far. I havent measured ph yet. I was hoping the micros handle that for me as they always do. I have been watering the clones in the coco mix twice a day for the past week and the growth is outrageous. Cut a solid two weeks off of my veg time. Under 1000 watt M.H. with a dilute tea applied twice a day, its kinda like a manual organic coco hydro thing I have going on. So far I am loving the results of the coco with out the compost. I also have an expirimental coco/soil mixture that we shal keep on eye on.

Please keep this thread alive. I need a homebase for my organic coco grow.

Here's a pic of the pool with the 2 gal bags of ammended coco (no compost)





It might be hard to see, but here's a pic of the coco with compost and the problems I am having

 

[rabid]

yeah man, i'm experimenting with coco mixes too.
i'm potting my 2-3 week veg cuttings (in 1.5L pots) into this mix (into 6.5L pots) then put them in the flowering room;
coco 5L
1-2 handfulls of EWC
2 tablespoons of flowering guano
1tsp of high N guano
1 tablespoon of maxi-crop seaweed meal
1 tablespoon of maxi-crop cal-mag seaweed meal
1-2 handfulls of glacial rock dust
1 tbls bone meal
tbls of friendly fungi

That mix is almost identical to what I'm using except for the rock dust. I'm adding a bit of Azomite and Peruvian seabird guano (high P & K) also.

Where did you find the Maxicrop cal-mag seaweed meal? Didn't know they even made that product. I've got the 1-0-4 soluble powder but would use the cal mag if I could get it...

Happy New Year

 

[Mr. Burgundy]

*Bump*
As Brain stated, I would like to know more about what to feed...oh, and I just grabbed a bag of RG Basement Mix.

I typically use Bio Bizz nutes with plain coco for the duration of any grow, and Blackstrap Molasses for a sweetener. Now that i grabbed a bag of the RGBM, I would like to know what to feed it if I want to start vegging plants in the mix..

Thanks.

 

[C21H30O2]

vertical organic coco

If you are doing a organic coco experimental grow have cal/mag and liquid karma on hand they will save your grow if it starts to go awry... trust me.

 

[Fresh Start]

ES in foliar will fix any Mg def’s.
Suby

This is a sentence worthy of organic grow bibles.

 

[habeeb]

here's my experiment, did recipe from burn 1 ( think I skipped perlite and just tossed in some EWC ). strain is DP BB. these grew twice as fast as the ones in canna soil !! also strange is the coco ones have half the root mass as the soil ones. also to note I did not water these every day. I kinda neglected them as I was busy with other stuff and as you can see it's running like a champ so far. also did not PH or add anything to water. I think coco will be the future as peat moss is not very eco friendly.. ...

 

[Brain]

*Bump*
As Brain stated, I would like to know more about what to feed...oh, and I just grabbed a bag of RG Basement Mix.

I typically use Bio Bizz nutes with plain coco for the duration of any grow, and Blackstrap Molasses for a sweetener. Now that i grabbed a bag of the RGBM, I would like to know what to feed it if I want to start vegging plants in the mix..

Thanks.

Check out Mr. Danks thread with his organic coco recipe. I'm doing well with it. Bio Bizz will also work.