paper bags before jars?

[vindiesel]

just wondering. i see some use bags a few days before jars...is it definately worth it? i'm on 5th day drying, think about ready to start cure today or tomorrow. will bend stems today and check. was gonna go right to jars but now thinking about leaving in paper bags for a couple days...thanks.
vin

 

[justanotherbozo]

censorship sucks!

 

[vindiesel]

yes nice info thanks...just interested in what alot of the pros on here do...i hadnt planned on using bags...still dont know. just checked some stems after about 5 days drying. skinny stems snap. bigger ones no.

 

[justanotherbozo]

censorship sucks!

 

[yukino_asano]

YES, use bags if needed.

Did you guys read what was posted???

You state Jorge says NO yet in the text you post he clearly says he uses a BAG.

I find it really helps to bring out the smell, and even the moisture. I find I have to do for larger/thicker buds that take longer to dry.

Smaller buds will go straight into jar so they do not get too dry too fast.

here is the part of your quote from Jorge that states use bags.

If stems fold instead of snapping when bent, and buds are still moist to the touch, remove them from the container and gently place in the bottom of a paper bag (you can't rehang them if you've trimmed the buds off the unwanted stems). They can be stacked in the paper bag as high as 6 inchs (15 cm). Fold the top of the bag once or twice to close. Check the buds 2 to 3 times during the day to monitor drying. Carefully turn them in the bag so that different sides are exposed. Remove when they are dry and place back into the sealed container. Check them the next day to see if they are evenly dry. Stems should snap when bent. If too moist, put them back in the paper bag until dry. When dry, return to the curing container.

 

[BudLove]

IMHO - there was a cure journal thrown together by Klutter where he experimented on curing bud from the same plant using different methods to see how they came out.

Check it.

Personally - I skip the paper bag gig all together.... I know I know... the 'masters' use it, but based on my own experience of using it/not using it - I had zero difference in quality of smell/taste/high or cure time.

 

[justanotherbozo]

censorship sucks!

 

[yukino_asano]

hey guy, i couldn't respond yesterday because of post count.

anyway, if you read that again, CAREFULLY, you'll see that Jorge only
mentions using a paper bag for those buds that have gone through a
week of drying and then been trimmed from the branchs and put into
curing jars. Then, because they are too moist for ordinary curing,
(which means to me that they went into the curing jars too early)
they go into bags to catch up, if they were still attached to their
branchs i'm sure you would just hang them for another day.

I did read it, and before seeing on here have read many times.

others who read it might not have caught that and I wanted to point it out.

Sometime I use the bags sometime I do not. You gotta examine the buds and then use common sense to determine.

Plus if you grow huge softball sized buds, I feel the bags (or a cardboard box) are even more nessecary for a better cure.

p.s. Not trying to sound negative or flame. Just wanna help others who miss out on a good cure.

 

[justanotherbozo]

censorship sucks!

 

[Haps]

I use big yard bags, right at harvest, to slow the drying down, because my environment is too dry to hang them in the open. There is no one right way, do what the flowers need, learn by experimentation. Don't put too much stock in jc, he ain't JC.
H

 

[yukino_asano]

no problem man, i didn't take it that way and i'm glad you didn't take
my reply to your post negatively as that wasn't my intent.
LOL, in truth, my buds spend that first week drying inside a cardboard
box before going into the curing jars (lol, in my case 'curing coffee cans')

anyway, i feel the discussion is important, for me first 'cause that is how i
learn but, more importantly, for the noobs reading this now and the ones
that find this thread long after you and i have moved on to other threads.

in any event, i believe the key is to dry your plants well before curing and
then, to cure slowly, allowing the moisture contained within the buds to
migrate out slowly which increases potency by allowing the different
chemicals to become psychoactive and also allows time for the chlorophyl
to break down making for a much smoother smoke.

Right on!! All sharing of knowledge is positive.

I am on the same boat.

Bothers me to see people spend all this time growing then miss out on a proper cure.

I agree 200% about curing slowly.

I have noticed a difference in my smoke due to the care put into curing. Seems to be a much neglected step.


-Peace.

 

[Musicophiliac]

I like to trim up my buds, then I put them in a box with screens, which I lay them down on, to dry. After I dry my buds, I 'burp' them in paper bags until I am sure they are ready to be cured. I think that is the only reason paper bags should be used. When you skip the 'burp'/'sweat' process is when the stems start to bend instead of snap while curing. IMO, It does mean they were cured to early, b/c the 'burp' process was skipped. For long term storage or if I'm going to send some away to a friend, I use vacuum sealed bags. For personal use a wide mouth mason jar (gotta get those hands to the bottom of the jar). I always wondered about the different ways of curing, there's so many ways that are right.

Adios

 

[Mister Postman]

I use paper bags prior to the jar cure personally... In my experiences I have found that a lot of flavor/scent is either lost or gained with the initial hang dry period.. If the buds dry up to quickly I believe that no amount of cure is gonna get those buds as smooth and flavorful as they could of been if the initial dry was more gradual, and controlled.

In my location buds dry pretty crispy within 2-3 days of being hung. IMO this is to short a period, and doesn't allow enough time for the chemical reactions needed to begin breaking down the chlorophyll, and other impurities. I use the paper bags as a way to slow down, and control the initial dry which IME can make or break your harvest. I find that when I let the initial dry happen gradually, a shorter time in the jar is needed till those flavors/scents turn from the pre cure grassy hay like scent to the real live grade A dank Marijuana scent.

There is really no one way to go about it.. Do what works for your buds, and your environment. I found that with the use of bags as explained above I get my personal best flavors/scents/smoothness.

 

[dontstepongrass]

what is the RH where your buds are drying too fast?

 

[EatShitake]

what is the RH where your buds are drying too fast?

Hehe...at times (most of the time) it's high single digit. Maybe 15% on a humid day It's a desert out here! I can get my RH up to about 45% during the summer with a swamp cooler in a small space though. Tricks of the desert rat trade.