Thatguy's Swamp Grow '08

[thatguy]

OK, so I'm getting a very late start over here. I'm that guy at PG, and have had my thread going over there for a month or so.

But I believe that the more people I converse with, the more and better advice I can get, so I am starting another one here.

So to start off with, a description: My swamp is roughly 200 ft E/W by 1/4 miles N/S. It is more of a bog, as there are thousands of little islands that have 8 to 12 foot brush growing out of it. So my plan was to clear as little of the brush as possible, and plant in 10 gal grow bags since the dirt there is horribly acidic. I grew in 5 gal buckets last year, but my plants outgrew them before the middle of July.

I'm growing in 40%potting soil, 30% compost(/2 manure, 1/2 "forest"), 20% peat moss, and 10% perlite. I also added 12 fl oz GH rare earth(silica clay & leonardite), 12 tsp polymer crystals, and 8 tsp dolomitic lime per bag.

I now have 14 plants in the swamp. 7 bagseed, 3 Hindu Kush X White Widow, 3 DP Passion #1 and 1 DP Frisian Dew. I have 1 Passion#1 and 1 Frisian Dew to go.

These are the most recent photos I have, from the 18th.

These are the HKxWW, which don't want to branch out. Strange, since they are clones, and the mother had no problem doing it inside.






There is another one, but I guess I never took a pic.

These are the bagseed plants. No shots of the Passions or Frisian Dew's yet.













The reason that last one was leaning was that some of these thunderstorms we get here blew it almost completely over.

So that's the beginning of my outdoor thread. I'll have updates every week or so.

All the best,
TG

 

[grapepunched]

Nice to see you're started, here's hoping to a successful grow and nice nugs!

-gp

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

Good luck man! I'll be watching!

 

[thatguy]

Thank you, GP. Nice to see someone in here so quickly! Not the case at PG.

Think I'm gonna like it here...

BC!! Thanks much, I'll be watching yours as well!

All the best,
TG

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

Hey man, I came over to your thread to help with the soil question you asked over in my thread.

What all did you put in your soil mix to start with???

 

[HOVAH]

LOOKING GOOD MAN,....... YOURE A BRAVE MUTHER TO GO IN THE SWAMP..... THELYER ALOT OF SWAMP AREA WERE I LIVE BUT IM TO AFRAID OF WHAT IN IT... SNAKES,,, SNAPPIN TURTLES THE SIZE OF BEACHBALLS... GATORS !!!! .... GOOD LUCK

 

[thatguy]

HOVAH, thankfully I don't have to worry about that stuff. Only snakes I have to worry bout are rattlers, and they like rocks, so I'm safe. Snappers are real rare, so I'm not too worried. The deer and people were my biggest problem, and the swamp handled both of those well, I think.

BC, I'm growing in 40%potting soil, 30% compost(/2 manure, 1/2 "forest"), 20% peat moss, and 10% perlite. I also added 12 fl oz GH rare earth(silica clay & leonardite), 12 tsp polymer crystals, and 8 tsp dolomitic lime per bag.

Thanks,
TG

 

[thatguy]

BC, sorry I hadn't added that info yet. I was planning on including as much as possible, but I guess I was too when I wrote it.

 

[bongasaurus]

looks like your off to a kick ass start. ill be watchin

 

[thatguy]

Thanks, B.

BC, where'd you go?

Be back in the morning...

 

[thatguy]

So I went out there yesterday, and things are doing smashingly. I no longer really care about the odd signs my leaves are showing, as the plants are growing so fast it seems as if it doesn't matter.



Here are the 3 Passion #1's I put out last Saturday.





This is the Frisian Dew I put out last Sat.



I got one more Frisian in a bag yesterday before the rain started, and I have one more Passion to put in a bag later today. Then to move on to gathering water from the stream a quarter mile away, and store it in my 5 32 gal trash cans I have hidden under cover in the swamp. I'd use swamp water, but it REEKS of sulfur. I mean so bad I gagged when I smelled it.

These are the HKxWW. They were SO reluctant to branch.
If you can't tell, this one gets more light than the other two.


Gotta cut a few more branches for these two.




It's obvious to me that these bagseed plants don't need as much ferts. They're bushy, and growing real fast. I expect the ones in buckets to be root bound within a couple of weeks at the most.









Last year the roots actually split the bottom of 3 buckets and coiled up underneath. There was enough moisture on the surface of the ground I guess, because they didn't go into the ground.

So that's the update. All the best,
TG

 

[Paddi]

Good to see u here TG :smile:
A lill more pics will do it.

Best luck friend

Peace
Paddi

 

[DirtDevil]

LOOKING GOOD MAN,....... YOURE A BRAVE MUTHER TO GO IN THE SWAMP..... THELYER ALOT OF SWAMP AREA WERE I LIVE BUT IM TO AFRAID OF WHAT IN IT... SNAKES,,, SNAPPIN TURTLES THE SIZE OF BEACHBALLS... GATORS !!!! .... GOOD LUCK

the only thing I have to worry about in the swamps around here are deer flies, horse flies, mosquitoes and getting my feet wet

 

[Guest]

Hi thatguy.

Your grows looking pretty good. Im interested in the Friesen Dew. I'm paying attention.

Good luck.
sb

 

[Possum]

good luck.

 

[DangerP]

Have you tried topping the ones that won't branch? That usually does it for me, but I mostly grow inside. You could also pull them over sideways; then the branches on the sides would grow straight up rather than the plants just getting taller and taller.

 

[gobbler3447]

When you have deer, you have deer hunters, at least in my area...In sept., I start talking about the number of rattlers I've seen or Copperheads, cottonmouths, to anyone and everyone I see, at least put the thought of snake in their minds....Hovah, just think if your afraid of a swamp......maybe alot of peeps are and hence they won't go into "thhhe sssswamppss'' get the point! That Guy, good luck, yesssss swamps are good.

 

[thatguy]

Silverback, I'll do my best to include as much info as possible.

Possum, thanks.

Danger, I've topped them all once already, and I think it's just a strain that doesn't like to branch. I'll probably end up tying/staking the branches to grow out.

Gobbler, my main way of keeping the hunters out of my plot is to stay as low impact as possible. I have created no path leading away from the existing one for at least 100 feet. Someone would have to be walking in the middle of the woods, within 5 feet of the path I have created, to find it.

I don't think hunters will find it (knock on wood) because on the side of the path that is away from my swamp, the woods is FILLED with wild blueberry plants. The deer are already having a field day with them. That oughtta keep the hunters occupied!

All the best,
TG

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

.BC, I'm growing in 40%potting soil, 30% compost(/2 manure, 1/2 "forest"), 20% peat moss, and 10% perlite. I also added 12 fl oz GH rare earth(silica clay & leonardite), 12 tsp polymer crystals, and 8 tsp dolomitic lime per bag.

I'm not really totally up to speed on the Leonardite, but I do know that it has a tendency to lower PH, and I also know that Peat and most potting soils(unless they are labeled PH balanced) also have a tendency to lower PH. It is possible that the problem you contacted me about earlier may indeed be a low PH problem.

Do you have a way to do a PH test on the soil or run off?

 

[thatguy]

Yes, my old partner from last year has soil pH test kits. I'll just snag one from him.

I sprinkled 2 tsp on the surface, I think I mentioned that before. It made a little bit of difference, but I think I'll add another tbsp, and mix it all in.

Thank you for the info.

Also, I have met Budluver, who is now elsewhere, with a different handle. She's a great woman, who has gifted me a few of her white cuts. I also may help her to keep a couple of her strains alive this winter.

All the best,
TG