Overpopulation

[SilverSurfer_OG]

Industrialisation of nations using clean energy and organic methods of farming could solve overpopulation... instead the elite pull the strings and help create poverty in their bid to destroy the middle class... we need to harness all this bullshit about global warming into positive change... fuck al gore and his fake environmentalists... they want to reduce earths population down to around 100 million and tax the shit out of us in the process.


To the stars.

 

[BadTicket]

Here are some thoughts and suggestions from a hardcore Finnish Eco-fascist, writer, philosofer & fisherman Pentti Linkola.

"If the present amount of Earths population is preserved and is reduced only by the means of birth control, then:

- Birthgiving must be licenced. To enhance population quality, genetically or socially unfit homes will be denied offspring, so that several birth licences can be allowed to families of quality.

- Energy production must be drastically reduced. Electricity is allowed only for the most necessary lighting and communications.

- Food: Hunting must be made more efficient. Human diet will include rats and invertebrate animals. Agriculture moves to small un-mechanized units. All human manure is used as fertilizer.

- Traffic is mostly done with bicycles and rowing boats. Private cars are confiscated. Long-distance travel is done with sparse mass transport. Trees will be planted on most roads.

- Foreign affairs: All mass immigration and most of import-export trade must stop. Cross-border travel is allowed only for small numbers of diplomats and correspondents.

- Business will mostly end. Manufacture is allowed only for well argumented needs. All major manufacturing capacity is state owned. Products will be durable and last for generations.

- Science and schooling: Education will concentrate on practical skills. All competition is rooted out. Technological research is reduced to extreme minimum. But every child will learn how to clean a fish in a way that only the big shiny bones are left over."

Linkola is one of the few voices who advocates:

1) No immigration
2) Downsize population
3) Kill defectives
4) Stop rampant technology

In the eyes of the most credible sources, planet Earth can sustain a half-billion humans without any sizable destruction of our habitat, or any loss in species or stability of our ecosystem. Any numbers higher than that, no matter how much they recycle, will cause environmental chaos. The modern leftist-tinged environmental movement is terrified of telling anyone that they cannot breed and keep buying whatever strikes their fancy, but someone must do this in the future. The sooner we do it, the fewer people in the future will be left without a means of sustenance and thus require termination.

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More @ www.penttilinkola.com

He does not personally run the site as he lives like he preaches, in the woods of Finland, living with (not off) the land, without electricity. Unlike Al Gore fake ass populist-environmentalists.

Oh and for the record, he does have some pretty radical ideas and i do not agree with all of em. He's been called a nazi, commie and Pol Pot by the Finnish media for his hardcore ideas and i gotta agree, most of his stuff is very radical and not for small children :smile: But if u'r in to hating ppl or eco-fascism, look no further, Linkola is yer man!

 

[9Lives]

^^ That guy is a fossil...

His ways are not sustainable (for the human brain!)..technology is key! Just smart technology..

 

[FarmerJoe]

Ideally what I'd like to see is a fusion of clean technology and a more minimalist/efficient way of living. There needs to be a widespread change in how people see the world. The city tends to makes them disconnected.

Thanks for your thoughts everyone, I'm not one to tell anyone what to do, I'm just putting the idea out there, and to let others know they're not alone in thinking like this.

BT: Some of those ideas make more sense than others, but its still on the right track. No need to list him as a fisherman, A Finlander is born a fisherman.

 

[Kirby]

After reading this thread, I am starting to wonder how many of you carry a 'Eugenics for America!’ club card in your wallet.

 

[Tokasaurus Rex]

We're aware that there are too many of us but human beings are unwilling to seriously address this problem, not to worry though, nature is always there to set this ship right with a mass extinction.

 

[elevate]

So, I don't know if I'm the only one of the few who notices this trend, but by the time the earth reaches its maximum amount of sustainable human lives (I'm saying in the ball park of 11 billion) it will only be ~2050. I don't know what the rest of you think, but this is reason enough for me to pledge to never reproduce.

If I want a kid, I'll adopt.

If I can change the minds of just a few people, we can save this earth and its inhabitants a lot of pain. I believe that if we can get the world population to sustain itself at about 3 billion people, we will be able to live peacefully with nature on its planet.

If we have 11 billion humans on the planet in 2050, and we are still consuming our brains out and living like we are now, it will be bad. but if 11 billion people live more harmoniously, I don't see why a number makes a problem. It's the way we live that is the problem. Meaning we consume and excrete too much SHIT!

 

[elevate]

I think the pressure of out of control population will overwhelm the human population before the earth is totally over run. And then we will all start killing each other for food, water, and energy.....insted of just for energy.

Thats the story of human history, too many people in your land? Make Armies and march into the neighbors lands and take their food and farmland, just ask the Celts that got displaced by the Romans, and Germanic tribes that over run Rome.

AH, I love it. Someone using history to explain the future. I would give rep. but I need to spread around more first.

 

[zeeba amoeba]

China has a strict 1 child per family rule which should cut their population in half in the time frame of 1 life time. The white populations of Europe, Russia, and America have had a negative birth rate for generations now, if it weren't for immigration there would be a large labour shortage. Im sure the UN and other world powers will take care of the population growth in India and the middle east as well. Its a huge problem for the world elite. The main method to cut down on populatoin is to control birth rates. Abortion, birth control and a selfish lifestyle like we have in the west are important. And these values will eventually make their way to india, africa, middle east if the elite have their way.

If you are white have some babies! white people are a dying breed.

I'd expand this to say, if you're an educated intelligent person, have some damn babies quick, and plenty of them. In fact I am opposed to smart young women getting on the "career track" if they have the mindset that childbearing can or MUST be postponed. Fuck that, childbirth is more important than a step up the corporate ladder. Women giving birth at age 35+ opens up a Pandora's Box of birth defects. Look at the science, the human animal is optimized for birth by age 16 and should definitely do it before age 25, it's just biological reality.

Why the urgency for childbirth... because if you look at reproduction rates, the ones giving birth to the most babies are in Islamic undereducated countries, shitholes like Indonesia and Morocco. In Islam the woman has to pump out babies, so if you say you're not gonna reproduce to help conquer overpopulation, that means the towelheads take up the slack, and the world becomes subject to Islam. That would SUCK, I would prefer an atheist world where people are free to pursue their dreams. The Islamists don't give a shit about anything other than Islam, so right away you can forget about doing anything about the environment.

As for us whiteys, I could give a rip if there are any more of us, what matters to me is the type of person on the inside, not on the outside...there are plenty of bad white ppl to go around... if George W. Bush is the poster child of the white race and Obama is the poster child of the black race, then f*ck the white race, and I can say that being a white person.

 

[KharmaGirl]

"Towelheads"?? Where do you ant this thread to end up?

And not everyone is in a position to have children before 35. I'll give birth when I'm darn ready. It may be 40 and I don't care who thinks what about it.

 

[Refudean]

Sheer overpopulation is one of the biggest threats to life as we have known it on this planet,and you are wise in not wanting to have children.All things considered,I think anyone who chooses to these days is being pretty thoughtless and selfish.Even with our present population I don't see how we can continue on with our industrialized way of life and expect for our little world to last much longer.