How many of you continue your vegging or "Grow" nutes for the first 2 wks of flower?

[StinkyStubb]

How many of you continue your vegging or "Grow" nutes for the first 2 wks of flower?

I hear its better for the plant. Is this true? And also, is it ok to use something like bud blood or open sesame even though your still using your grow nutes?

Stinky

 

[CelebrityKush]

i also use the veg nutes for the first two weeks of flowering.
you figure during the first two weeks is when the plant stretches the most and the grow nutes and ideal for supplying this growth. using the open sesame is your call. In veg I use Flora Nova Grow, Floralicious, and lxr gold. When I switch I keep it the same for the first two weeks except I also add FloraNectar. Then after week two I switch the grow for the bloom nutes. then at week 4 i add start to add pure flowers for increased yields. Probably the best thing I do is a micronutrient flush prior to my final flush. This lets the plant develope awesome flavors towards the end of ripening. for the micro flush I use floralicious at 1ml per gallon, sweet or floranector at 2 tsp per gallon, and most importantly is the super guano tea mix which I add at 2 cups per 5 gallons.

 

[Guest]

First, strain plays a part here. Different strains mean somewhat different regimes.

Generally though, I phase out my higher Nitrogen nutes and phase in my higher Phosphorus nutes during the first 3-4 weeks of flowering. IMO, plants still need considerable Nitrogen during the stretch. So like this grow I'm finishing now I did it sorta like this since I was using PureBlendPro Grow and Flower during this time period.

A early flower feeding was like 1Tbls of PBPro Grow and 1tsp of PBPro Flower, Then next time it might be 2tsp grow and 2tsp bloom, followed by 1tsp Grow and 1 Tbls Flower.....so that when the stretch was about done, I was using 100% Flower formula. Did I explain what I did OK?

jj48

 

[facelift]

I don;t use veg nutes my plants grow fine without them and I don;t have to worry about poisoning the little ones. I start flower fertz as soon as I determine what I have in the box. (sex)

 

[DIGITALHIPPY]

first wk of flower, second week the plant actualy knows its flowering and then go for flower food.

 

[m@rg]

because i repot 3 times in veg , if i use any grow nutes ,its very little.but 4 wks ito flower they start getting hungry . so from here i start on grow nutes and swop over to bloom nutes at around week 6
i flower for no less than 10 weeks with no less than 14 day flush

 

[phate]

i actually use flower nutes for the last 2 weeks of veg. it helps kick em over quicker i found.

 

[greenisgold]

I keep the mh running until I see buds form then I switch to hps. Same holds true for ferts during these begining weeks of flower. Except for the second week I like to do 50/50 veg and flower ferts at times. I will phase out veg ferts after 3rd week. Now, if you go out and buy FF line of bloom boosters you will find that they have you adding that crap even before you flower. Some have great results, but I have tried it and all it does is stunt the hell out of the plant. Some like this, some don't. I guess it depends on style of grow, strain and the amount of time to finish.

 

[Microwido]

I think the key is to gradually switch to flower nutes. I went from full on veg nutes to full on flower nutes over 3 days, and I nearly killed one of the plants with over nuteing. The other plants showed signs of damage.

So yeah, gradually switch nutrients over a few week time span. Never go straight into full on flower nutrient cycle to fast.

Also, I like to add 1/8 of veg nutes to my water mix until a few weeks before the end of flower. This way you have some nitrogen and your leaves don't all turn yellow.

My 2 cents.

 

[Den0ts]

I think the key is to gradually switch to flower nutes. I went from full on veg nutes to full on flower nutes over 3 days, and I nearly killed one of the plants with over nuteing. The other plants showed signs of damage.

So yeah, gradually switch nutrients over a few week time span. Never go straight into full on flower nutrient cycle to fast.

Also, I like to add 1/8 of veg nutes to my water mix until a few weeks before the end of flower. This way you have some nitrogen and your leaves don't all turn yellow.

My 2 cents.

I agree. The Flora Nova series is very easy to use, and you can simply do cominations of grow and bloom to gradually change over a few weeks time or even more. If you notice your leaves yellowing early in flower, just boost the N for a feeding every now and again.

 

[sirgrassalot]

I use 50-50 fish emulsion with PBP bloom for the first 2-3 weeks of bloom than continue with the PBP & a bud booster until the 6th week than I leach my soil less with 10-25% PBP for a week & flush with tap water the last few waterings. See the thread linked it'll show you that your plants should generally look like crap when they're finished properly.

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=90271

 

[Johnny Rotten]

I don't even consider the first two weeks of "flowering" as flowering.....that is vegetative growth.

Most seedbanks and also a lot of growers don't even start counting flowering days until they see flowers forming. Thats why newbs have problems counting weeks of flowering, they start from the flip to 12/12 instead of post stretch.

Bog used to say that proper fertilization in this stretch period was key to massive buds. He also used to time his transplants to maximize the pre-bud stretch.

 

[GET MO]

I didnt before but I will from now on as I alwayshave nitrogn def at the end of my grows.

 

[satyr]

First 2-3 weeks is what GHE calls "preflower" and their label says that grow is 1:1:1 preflower is (NPK) 3:2:1 and flower nutes are (NPK) 1:2:3.

I dont follow it personally but I do use the preflower nute 321 straindependent but always boost nitrogen in the first 2-3 weeks.

 

[nycdfan042]

yea ive done it both ways, and feeding grow nutes withing the first 2 wks along side your bloom nutes really improves plant vatality and vigor

 

[ZeusOGrefugee]

I agree, giving ur plants 2 weeks of veg/flower nutes keeps them healthy till the end and really gives them a nice boost into flower and resin production...

- Z

 

[smokeymacpot]

i feed more N as the leaves loose that dark green colour and yes they use alot of N in the first few weeks of flower.

 

[FiveLeggedGoat]

I use Fox Farm nutes. I usually continue with the Grow Big for the first week of flower and again, along with BigBloom & Tiger Bloom in week 4-5.

 

[Simpleton]

Preflower Foodz

Preflower Foodz

I used to flower clones smaller, and still do sometimes depending on circumstances, counting on a food regime to push them to size before they start actually flowering.

The problem i am noticing with this type of food program is that there seems to be larger inter-nodes and a lot more removal of lower branches when plants do flower.

I am starting to shift to get the plant more to the size you want in veg and when lights are changed go right to a flowering formula to minimize stretch before flowers are initiated.

I recently changed to sugar peak and am noticing that by using this product from the first day they are subjected to 12hrs light, the following growth is much more compact then if a higher N formula was to be used. I have not seen the massive growth after flip with sugar peak like I did when using Chem nutrients containing higher N.

This way of vegging and flowering will increase the time it takes to reach completion but the result will be more compact plants with more usable material.

Also, I used to transplant to the containers the plants were to be flowered in at the time of the light change. This, I am learning, is not good practice. Get your plants into the containers they are going to flower in while in veg and just move them to your flower area. Plants that are subjected to the transplant at the time of initiation suffer the shock of the roots being in a new environment.

This means that your first week in flower the plants just kinda sit still until they have sent roots into the medium. Get that step out of the way while in veg and send plants into your flowering area with the only shock being 12hrs of light rather than 18 or 24hrs which isn't really a shock if everything else is in order.

Here is my idea regime that I am trying to adhere to (sometimes unforeseen things do not let this happen):

1-Cut the exact amount of clones you'd like to flower into rockwool 1.5 plugs. Dip clones into Rootone, tap off excess, and plug into the blocks that have been saturated with Schultz@7drops per liter/quart and Rootone at 1/8 teaspoon per liter/quart. Use bottom heat. I built a cabinet to house my mother plant and a shelf is just above the fluorescents that illuminate her. The shelf is warmed by the fixtures and is perfect for rooting heat.

I get 100 percent success cloning this way and am able to cut only what I need rather then cut more and expect loss. It is not necessarily my ingredients as it is the time given to clones for 100% success. Don't get me wrong, a rooting aid is substantially beneficial but can be done without. Half of the clones root at 14 days and the rest follow within a week. Just don't let them put out too much root before sending to the next phase.

2-As your plants show roots coming from the block transplant them to 3" or 4"
blocks that have been flushed and saturated with a dilute Veg forumula. I use a 20-15-15@ 1/4 Tea/Gallon. You can choose to use a little Rootone i this formula as well to help initiate roots into the larger blocks. As I said before, half of your plants will start showing roots at 14 days so move these to the blocks and as the others start to root move them as well. It may seem that the plants moved earlier to blocks will be larger but they all end up the same size. I move the plants to these blocks when anysort of visible root is coming from the 1.5"cubes.

Continue growing in the 3-4" blocks using the veg formula until a pretty good profusion of roots are coming from the blocks.

3-Transplant the blocks to your flowering containers. Give them a mellow transitional liquid at transplant. Something like a compost tea and a little B-1, maybe a little rootone to get the roots into their new containers. Get them under your flowering lighting but at 18 hrs a day. Continue to grow on them until you get the plants within an acceptable range of finishing height or, at least one week.

4-Flip the lights to 12hrs and go directly to a lower N/high P and K formula for the duration of the grow. When the plants hairs are red wait 2 more weeks.
Harvest your plants within a day of your final watering and dry slow (2wks)

This makes for some finger lickin shizz.

 

[chubbynugs]

I feed them grow nutes a few weeks into flower and it helps out very much. You dont want your plants lacking any nitrogen as they start their stretch. Strain does play a part in this though.