I have several f1 Master Kush that were born with this condition. It appears to be crinkled and malformed. I'm nursing them along wondering if they will outgrow this condition. Any Botanical of you types out there have a clue?
Is this a VIRUS!?!?
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Wow- I think you win the prize for the largest siggy I have ever seen...
What is the pH of the water you're watering with, and is there a possibility of physical damage to the plants from insects or another source? I've seen crinkling from high pH and from physical damage to the seedling. But with the problem corrected, new growth should appear normal.
That being said, it does have a virus look to it. I have never seen a virus on cannabis 'in the flesh' though. I hope a better pathologist will stop in.
What is the pH of the water you're watering with, and is there a possibility of physical damage to the plants from insects or another source? I've seen crinkling from high pH and from physical damage to the seedling. But with the problem corrected, new growth should appear normal.
That being said, it does have a virus look to it. I have never seen a virus on cannabis 'in the flesh' though. I hope a better pathologist will stop in.
Kenny Lingus
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Ahhh, it's kinda hard to spot it on that picture... Viruses are tiny you know 
Well, I don't think it will be a problem. Some plants (especially blueberry-lines) have mutated individuals showing themselves a bit like that. It's usually non contagious, but can pass on in breeding.
PS! A lot of BB plants grow out of it, and flower perfect potent and massive buds.
Well, I don't think it will be a problem. Some plants (especially blueberry-lines) have mutated individuals showing themselves a bit like that. It's usually non contagious, but can pass on in breeding.
PS! A lot of BB plants grow out of it, and flower perfect potent and massive buds.
1love1earth
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I've noticed something similar to this on some of my seedlings, it is a malformation very similar, though not nearly as drastic, only on the outer edges of the first true set of leaves, and sometimes the 2nd, and they don't outgrow it as long as those leaves stay.
Noticed it on a few strains, but I'd have to double check which ones.
I wondered if it was genetic, because it certainly seemed congenital.
Noticed it on a few strains, but I'd have to double check which ones.
I wondered if it was genetic, because it certainly seemed congenital.
Were these all seedlings that have this problem?
Honestly to me it looks more like a genetic malformation than anything else, plants do not have a virus from that pic......
Honestly to me it looks more like a genetic malformation than anything else, plants do not have a virus from that pic......
I was kind of leaning toward the theory that it was genetically transfered, as a virus, frankly they don't look like they are going to be worth anything.
moonymonkey
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i was wandering if we cud see that pic under another light?
My vote is YES. Tobacco Mosaic virus. Ive dealt with it. The plants will continue to grow but they will not grow optimally. The leaves will continue to do weird things. Enjoy!
I do believe I have to agree with you about the TMV. I googled it and found pics from Kent State U of the exact same leaf condition on tomato plants. Looks like it's off to the dump with my infected plants! 
Problem: Tobacco Mosaic Virus of Tomato
Host Plants: Tomato, pepper, eggplant, tobacco, spinach, petunia, marigold.
Description: Several virus diseases to tomato occur in Kansas, although they generally are not as prevalent as the wilt and foliar diseases. Three of the more common virus diseases are tobacco mosaic, cucumber mosaic, and spotted wilt. The tobacco mosaic virus can attack a wide range of plants, including tomato, pepper, eggplant, tobacco, spinach, petunia and marigold. On tomato, virus infection causes light and dark green mottled areas on the leaves. The dark green areas tend to be somewhat thicker than the lighter portions of the leaf. The leaf mottling is seen more easily if the affected plant surface is partially shaded. Stunting of young plants is common and often is accompanied by a distortion and fern-like appearance of the leaves. Older leaves curl downward and may be slightly distorted. Certain strains of the virus can cause a mottling, streaking and necrosis of the fruits. Infected plants are not killed, but they produce poor quality fruit and low yields.
Tobacco mosaic, is incited by a virus. The tobacco mosaic virus is very stable and can persist in contaminated soil, in infected tomato debris, on or in the seed coat, and in manufactured tobacco products. The virus is transmitted readily from plant to plant by mechanical means. This may simply involve picking up the virus while working with infected plant material, then inoculating healthy plants by rubbing or brushing against them with contaminated tools, clothing, or hands. Aphids are not vectors of the virus, although certain chewing insects may transmit the pathogen.
Recommendations: Virus diseases cannot be controlled once the plant is infected. Therefore, every effort should be made to prevent introduction of virus diseases into the garden. Sanitation is the primary means of controlling virus diseases. Infected plants should be removed immediately to prevent spread of the pathogens. Perennial weeds, which may serve as alternate hosts, should be controlled in and adjacent to the garden. Avoid planting tomatoes next to cucurbits, spinach, or other vegetables and flowers susceptible to these diseases. The use of tobacco products during cultural practices should be avoided to prevent inoculation of plants with the tobacco mosaic virus. Those people using tobacco or working with infected plant material should wash their hands thoroughly in soapy water before handling tomato plants.
Problem: Tobacco Mosaic Virus of Tomato
Host Plants: Tomato, pepper, eggplant, tobacco, spinach, petunia, marigold.
Description: Several virus diseases to tomato occur in Kansas, although they generally are not as prevalent as the wilt and foliar diseases. Three of the more common virus diseases are tobacco mosaic, cucumber mosaic, and spotted wilt. The tobacco mosaic virus can attack a wide range of plants, including tomato, pepper, eggplant, tobacco, spinach, petunia and marigold. On tomato, virus infection causes light and dark green mottled areas on the leaves. The dark green areas tend to be somewhat thicker than the lighter portions of the leaf. The leaf mottling is seen more easily if the affected plant surface is partially shaded. Stunting of young plants is common and often is accompanied by a distortion and fern-like appearance of the leaves. Older leaves curl downward and may be slightly distorted. Certain strains of the virus can cause a mottling, streaking and necrosis of the fruits. Infected plants are not killed, but they produce poor quality fruit and low yields.
Tobacco mosaic, is incited by a virus. The tobacco mosaic virus is very stable and can persist in contaminated soil, in infected tomato debris, on or in the seed coat, and in manufactured tobacco products. The virus is transmitted readily from plant to plant by mechanical means. This may simply involve picking up the virus while working with infected plant material, then inoculating healthy plants by rubbing or brushing against them with contaminated tools, clothing, or hands. Aphids are not vectors of the virus, although certain chewing insects may transmit the pathogen.
Recommendations: Virus diseases cannot be controlled once the plant is infected. Therefore, every effort should be made to prevent introduction of virus diseases into the garden. Sanitation is the primary means of controlling virus diseases. Infected plants should be removed immediately to prevent spread of the pathogens. Perennial weeds, which may serve as alternate hosts, should be controlled in and adjacent to the garden. Avoid planting tomatoes next to cucurbits, spinach, or other vegetables and flowers susceptible to these diseases. The use of tobacco products during cultural practices should be avoided to prevent inoculation of plants with the tobacco mosaic virus. Those people using tobacco or working with infected plant material should wash their hands thoroughly in soapy water before handling tomato plants.
Buzz Lightyear
Member
Its not genetic or a virus...it's a nutrition problem.
I already ruled out nutrition as her sisters (2) are developing normally. I have 4 girls showing this condition. Plus there are 30 some odd plants surrounding these that show no nutrient deficiency.
Im 99% sure it's the TMV. The bad part is that is it contagious to your other plants. Once a plant is infected, it passes the virus through contact or genetics. Don't be too surprised if your other plants start showing some strangeness too. The chances of them getting infected are pretty good.
Hi there,
I am having the same problem here. my friend gave me some plants that had it, and now I got it bad. Dummy me didnt think it was contagious, Now I'm flowering all my moms and starting over.
Good luck
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=80509
I am having the same problem here. my friend gave me some plants that had it, and now I got it bad. Dummy me didnt think it was contagious, Now I'm flowering all my moms and starting over.
Good luck
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=80509
You nailed it gladysvjubb, Tobacco Mosaic Virus.
