Look at my electrical box and tell me whats up?

[hoosierdaddy]

He followed the "code" perfect.

luciano, not to pick nits...but when running romex wire (a generic term to begin with) from a breaker box or lug, the cable must be protected by a conduit or wood chamber of some sort to be code, yes?

 

[luciano28]

luciano, not to pick nits...but when running romex wire (a generic term to begin with) from a breaker box or lug, the cable must be protected by a conduit or wood chamber of some sort to be code, yes?

I believe the cable is the protection, single conductors have to be protected by conduit, BX, or wiremold. It is supposed to be secured in so many inch intervals(cant remember off the top of my head) which he didnt do. Don't quote me on that though.

I have an old 1999 code book buried in my shed somewhere with my other school books. Maybe I will hunt it down this weekend and I'll give you a definite answer on that. Like I said before, I work in a mill and Im not up to date on the residential requirements but I dont really know of many that have changed other than those new arc-fault breakers in bedrooms or w/e. I get a supplement mailed to me every 3 years when the new books come out and most of that stuff has dealt with industrial.

I have never ran romex on the outside of a wall, mainly because it would look like shit obviously, not sure if its code that it has to be protected but I do remember something about firewall blocks in between studs, but like I said Im not sure. You might be right about that.

Edit: I have run a few services for family and at my very first job after I got out of school and I have never been called out by an inspector for having bare cable/romex showing in basements.

Edit #2: Also keep in mind any state can make the code stricter, never more lenient than the NEC though. So in one place to the other the code can be different. I know Florida is pretty strict for some reason. Counties and even city governments can also change code within their limits to make it more strict.

 

[luciano28]

BIG you are still a dumbass. You tell a guy to pull his 15 amp breaker out and put in a 30 amp. Nowhere did you mention the wire upgrade until called out on it several posts later. If your post was the VERY last post and nobody checked in and called you out, the OP may have very well swapped breakers. Builders do not wire a whole house in 10 gauge, then put a 15 amp breaker in the panel. 99% of the time, the breaker is matched to the wire.

Why am I even explaining this

Just cause you do shit half-ass dont think everyone else wants to do it that wat

Then you want to get all pissy when you are put in your place. Grow the fuck up

Want to see proof? read my signature you fucktard

Yes that is very true, he definitely should explain himself better when giving electrical advice to people.

 

[Guest]

So anyway folks it appears that Mr Big ran 10-2 w grnd from a 30A breaker to the outlet box. It also appears that he used 15A rated duplex receptacles which are normally used in residential applications, with 20A rated used in commercial and industrial. The thing is that they are connected to 12-2/w grnd wiring and our Genius is providing the outlets with 10-2 w/ grnd wiring and 30A of available power.

Anybody that would do this and suggest to others that it is the thing to do has Earned every JAB thrown at him.

Nice pot photos though, at least you have that part right.

I have been in the construction industry for over 45 years with 33 of those years as a General Building Contractor, both in California and Oregon. I have seen some really dangerous DIY and yours is right up there in the TOP 10 things of what not do do.

No respect,

TyStik

PS: Buy a dictionary----------learn how to spell.

 

[luciano28]

So anyway folks it appears that Mr Big ran 10-2 w grnd from a 30A breaker to the outlet box. It also appears that he used 15A rated duplex receptacles which are normally used in residential applications, with 20A rated used in commercial and industrial. The thing is that they are connected to 12-2/w grnd wiring and our Genius is providing the outlets with 10-2 w/ grnd wiring and 30A of available power.

Anybody that would do this and suggest to others that it is the thing to do has Earned every JAB thrown at him.

Nice pot photos though, at least you have that part right.

I have been in the construction industry for over 45 years with 33 of those years as a General Building Contractor, both in California and Oregon. I have seen some really dangerous DIY and yours is right up there in the TOP 10 things of what not do do.

No respect,

TyStik

PS: Buy a dictionary----------learn how to spell.

Yikes! Didnt notice that, you are the man, Im done here, lol.

You are absolutely right, he could burn up them plugs if they arent rated for 30A which Im sure they arent just by looking at them. Man I feel like an asshole right about now.

 

[BiG H3rB Tr3E]

ty everything is matched to rating..so i have not a worry in the head, however i always do encourage positive and informative feedback.

i dont know everything. nobody does. that is why we have such a wonderful society at IC -- it is full of people who share the same desires - to produce fine quality cannabis. we should encourage each other to better ourselfs and provide procreative information, not tear eachother down at any chance we get...we are better than that.

im sure we all got much more important tasks at hand than bicker about what is up to code or who is a better electrician. seen?

lets all step back, light one up and think about what this is really about,,,growing great herb!!!

peace and positivity
BhT

 

[hoosierdaddy]

I agree Big, but sometimes we gotta step back and say ut oh...and move on...not cuss folks out. It only breeds more hostility and solves nothing.

luciano, yes according to NEC and CEC you can run romex in the joists of a basement, as they serve as an acceptable protective trough. In walls ditto. Other than that, EMT or rigid is required. I also think that the connection to the junction must have rubber grommet type clamp, but not sure on that...

I am not an electrician, although I have to wire lots of stuff up in industrial settings.
I also had to study the NEC code book many years ago to obtain my Florida industrial contractors license, even though my work in Fl was far from electrical. (crazy FL laws)

 

[luciano28]

Right on Hoosier. I believe you about the EMT and RMT. Makes sense. I spend my nights working on DC Motors and broke down overhead cranes and I havent been much of a residential electrician since I got the job I am at. Just the odd side jobs and helping out family and friends.

I hope I provided some info here someone can use.

I hope the OP comes back and lets us know how he is doing, hope the argument/discussion didnt scare him off.

It is good and refreshing to see stoners worried about electrical safety and being knowledgable about it.

 

[green_grow]

It is good and refreshing to see stoners worried about electrical safety and being knowledgable about it.
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exactly.

 

[hoosierdaddy]

You know, if a few fires are started by home growers, it will make big news at 11:00 and give LEO even more reason to crack down on us. And in the eye of the public, they will be supported even more.

If we are gonna play the game, it's best if we know all the plays in the book, rather than winging it and looking stupid.

And I think discussion like these, although heated at times, help us to educate ourselves just a little bit more.