1st grow (in 5 years)--Original Haze x Skunk 1 & Bagseed

[doja420]

Can't tell to much from the picture myself but the plant looks like it might need water, the plant is growing well have you started feeding it yet? Generally around week 1-2 I start to introduce small amounts of nutes to my plants. On the larger older ones like that one maybe start with a 25% strength dosage of nutes with your watering if your not already. Also make sure your testing your pH before giving it to your plants, this is something I neglected at first when I started growing but I was giving my plants really alkaline water and after I corrected my plants seemed to do a lot better.

EDIT: I don't think roots visible at the bottom means root bound, When you pop the plant out and the roots are going up and down the side of the container your probably getting there.

Yeah that may be true, the usual test that I do is sticking my finger about a 1/2 inch into the soil to and if it's moist, it usually doesn't need water. And as a matter of fact, after just doing this test, she does seem thirsty. She drinks a lot it seems; however I may need to water her more thoroughly than I have been.

I haven't fed the plant's yet, it seems the soil has enough nutes in it to begin with (I'm using Scott's premium). I was going to wait until she had 5 nodes to feed and seeing as she doesn't look def in anything, I tend to go by the rule "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

About the pH, I actually need to go out and get a pH tester. I don't have the money right now for the digital tester but I figured I could use the good old fashioned liquid pH tester that we used back in HS chemistry, lol. Do you think they'll have that at a nursery? Probably at Walmart/HD/Lowe's?

 

[RJE231]

Yeah that may be true, the usual test that I do is sticking my finger about a 1/2 inch into the soil to and if it's moist, it usually doesn't need water. And as a matter of fact, after just doing this test, she does seem thirsty. She drinks a lot it seems; however I may need to water her more thoroughly than I have been.

I haven't fed the plant's yet, it seems the soil has enough nutes in it to begin with (I'm using Scott's premium). I was going to wait until she had 5 nodes to feed and seeing as she doesn't look def in anything, I tend to go by the rule "if it ain't broke, don't fix it".

About the pH, I actually need to go out and get a pH tester. I don't have the money right now for the digital tester but I figured I could use the good old fashioned liquid pH tester that we used back in HS chemistry, lol. Do you think they'll have that at a nursery? Probably at Walmart/HD/Lowe's?

I use the liquid tester myself, costed like 10$ from my local hydro store - I'm pretty sure you can find them in lots of places probably in a nursery for sure.

 

[doja420]

Hey yal!

@RJE231: Thanks for the info man. How do you use the liquid to test your soil pH though? Do you just test the runoff?

Anyways, just wanted to give an update and get some opinions. This is day 12 for the two biggest plants, day 10 for the slightly smaller ones, and for the small seedlings it's day roughly day 6-7. Everything seems to be going great. Still haven't fed them, haven't found the need to. I probably won't feed until a week or two after I transplant.

Here's a 'aerial' view of the top of the garden.


Here are my schwag bagseed plants, seem to be coming along well. Here, you can see the stripes and deformities on the "mutant" much better. Again, looks like it's just genetics, no kind of nute burn or anything (haven't fed).


Here are the seedlings of OHxSk#1 and mids bagseed. I can't wait to see these babies blooming. You can see a blade of grass growing


Here's my largest plant. I need opinions! Do you think this plant is big enough to LST? I plan to use LST and topping to keep these plants from sprawling all over the closet. This plant (and the other two larger ones) already have a woody stem due to the fan I have blowing in the garden. So what do you think? Time for some LST? Or should I begin with toppings, and wait until I transplant to a bigger pot to LST?



Thanks for all the help, advice and opinions guys! Don't know where I'd be without you

 

[TheBEAK]

Looking good so far man

I would start training the 3 big ones now.

 

[doja420]

Thanks BEAK...look what I pulled out of storage today





400w HPS

 

[doja420]

Mini-update

Mini-update

Sorry for the double post, but I just had to show my newly trained beauties under the HPS :wink:






EDIT: The tops on all three plants have already turned up only 4 hours later! The hps must be making huge difference.

 

[doja420]

Just wanted to show you guys how my babies are looking a few days after tying them down. They grow so quickly!

Here's Plant 1:


Plant 2:


And both of them together:


Both now have about between 4 and 6 growing tips. I didn't take a pic of the third trained plant (the "mutant"), but that one is looking good too, has 4 tips so far. The lower leaves (the 1st "real" leaf) where the two branches are growing from started to dry out and die, I assume this is common? I think I may fall in love with LST lol

One other update is that switching to the HPS looks like it's scorched some of my other seedlings. I've dealt with the heat problems but I have an OHxSk#1 seedling that might not make it.

Actually the other two OHxSK#1 plants also seem a little damaged from the intense light. Is this a strain that must be in veg cycle before it gets the HPS? The other plants seem to be doing fine.

 

[TriCrystalz]

Whats up Doja?
I like the progress thats being made! You should definitely check out coco. After making the switch I'm absolutely in shock at the growth jump. It's worth trying. Glad to see another FL grower on IC. Good luck, I'll be stopping in now and then.

-Tri

 

[doja420]

@TriCrystalz, thanks for taking a look man, any and all advice is appreciated. Great to meet another FL as well!

So today I just have a few updated pics. This is day 19 for the oldest plants. Here is A, the first to germ and to sprout. As you can see from the first pic (from a few days ago), she was very very hungry. The second and third pics show 3 days later after being fed Miracle Gro all-purpose plant food at 1/3 of the directed portion.




Here is a snapshot of plant 3. LST'd and growing rapidly (her growth wasn't stunted after LST unlike Plant 1 above). Though she was born 2 days later than plant 1, she's caught up in growth and # of nodes. Nice lush dense growth, gotta love HPS lamps! She also was fed today. Believe it or not you're looking at 5 growing tips!


Here is the first plant I've transplanted this grow. This is also the first time I've mixed my soil. 75% Miracle Gro potting soil, 25% perlite. She was in a make-shift pot for the first 15 days of her life.


I was wondering what you guys thought if I added some peat moss to that mix??

 

[Jochsmokes]

Doja- Everthing looks great!
All the plants are stayin nice and bushy gotta love it!
If i were going to add anything i'd probably go with Earth Worm Castings.
They are cheap @wal-mart and are way better for your soil than peat.
I always hated those big chunks of wood in miracle-gro.
I always tryed to screen it more wood= less root. IMO

Acouple of questions?
Are you haveing any trouble w/heat from your light?
About how far from the light are your plants?
I've been trying to lower my light to get better light penetration and not being air cooled i have to be VERY careful.
Best of luck! JS

 

[doja420]

Hey Jochsmokes thanks for stopping by Earthworm castings huh? Aren't those a natural nitrogen fert? I haven't really researched them, but the reason I asked about peat moss is b/c I read that it'll lighten the mix even further. Do EW castings lighten the mix as well? Yeahhh, the woodchips in the Miracle Gro do get annoying.

No problems with heat for now. I had problems when I first threw the HPS in there, but that was b/c I was being silly and I had the ballast in the closet! Lol. After moving the ballast outside the closet the temps are well under control, steady @ 78-80 degrees. The light is 2 1/2 to 3 feet from the tops of the plants. I too want to lower my light, but I gotta figure out some way to do that b/c the hanging chains are at their limits.

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Now for a few pics. Here is the way my closet grow is setup now. I've moved the HPS over to the right some to for the bigger pots from all the transplanting I've been doing (3 transplants on 3 different plants in the last couple days). So now I have the smaller seedlings on one side under the CFLs and the vegging plants on the right side under the HPS. After the last seedlings are transplanted I'll move the HPS back to the middle, and have the 2 custom CFL fixtures on the sides, like before.


Here are the remaining seedlings. 2 mids bagseed and 2 OHxSK#1


Here's my largest OHxSK#1 plant one day after transplant


And here's my largest mids bagseed plant one day after transplant...I expect the drooping to be gone by tonight, she was A LOT worse before I transplanted.


And here are my 3 LST'd (and eldest) plants

 

[Jochsmokes]

Doja- Yeah the ewc does have nitrogen but very little .5-0-0 its more like a soil enricher, it holds water and the big reason people use it is it has lots of micro organisims that help break down other Nutes.
But as far as lightening the soil no its kinda clumpy and packs after wet.
But so does peat after its wet in my opinon.
You could just put more perlite or saw dust.

And as far as lifting and dropping the light you could always use my method people laugh when they see it but man it works slick!! JS

 

[doja420]

IT'S A GIRL!!!

IT'S A GIRL!!!

Doja- Yeah the ewc does have nitrogen but very little .5-0-0 its more like a soil enricher, it holds water and the big reason people use it is it has lots of micro organisims that help break down other Nutes.
But as far as lightening the soil no its kinda clumpy and packs after wet.
But so does peat after its wet in my opinon.
You could just put more perlite or saw dust.

And as far as lifting and dropping the light you could always use my method people laugh when they see it but man it works slick!! JS

Oh really? Great! I'll try to find that at walmart, though I didn't see it there. Maybe they have it outside in the actual garden center (which was closed the last time I went). Anything that'll help my medium is needed IMO. Thanks for the advice!


Hey guys I came home to a surprised today! 2 girls!! I'm 2/0 so far! The third larger plant has some growth that could be sex organs, but without a magnifying glass I can't tell. It's exciting man, I'm geeked up over here, lol. That means they started showing sex @ 23 days from seed. Isn't this kinda early? This is from schwag seed. I wish I had a good quality camera to show you guys. But, I guess we'll have to wait until I start 12/12 to see some real buds

Here is the entire garden. I turned the HPS off but you can see the reflector in the foreground. I completed all the transplants on the 3rd, so everything is in a 6" pot or bigger. The two plants in the large pots in the upper right hand corner (one is under the CFLs) are the two confirmed girls, both 23 days from being planted.


One OHxSK#1 at the top, the other two are bagseed from mids (zona). I'm not sure whats with the sickly one on the left, she looked that way before I transplanted and her growth is still very stunted. I watered her right after taking this pic so she should be perkin' up pretty soon (hopefully). I have one more of each (mids and OHxSK#1) on the opposite side of the closet that aren't pictured.


Two plants that I just started LST on are in the foreground. The left is the schwag bagseed, and the right is OHxSK#1


Here is confirmed lady #1, with her nice, bushy self.


And confirmed lady #2 (happens to be the second plant planted also), who's even bushier. This was the one I so callously called "mutant." She's very compact (has about 6 main growing tips). I love these CFLs.


And this one remains to be seen, shouldn't be more than a day or 2 before she (hopefully not he) shows.



Again everyone, sorry for the quality of photos! I'll borrow a family member's thousand dollar camera soon so I can take some nicer pics.

I got a gram of cryp to celebrate! It smells exactly like cinnamon. Does anyone have any ideas what strain that might be? Best weed I've smoked in a long, long time.

 

[doja420]

Hey guys. I got to borrow a digital cam so I got some good looking pics for today. Maybe tomorrow I'll show you guys the preflowers that I can see. So far 5 plants are showing preflowers, however all but one aren't clear enough to tell (for me anyway) whether or not they're girls.

Here's the one confirmed female:


Here are two plants from the mids bagseed. The one on the left has been trained, the one on the right is normal


Two OHxSK#1 plants, both LST'd


And here is the whole garden

 

[doja420]

Just a quick update. I've been really busy with work and school (yeah, MJ really makes me want to be a slacker )

Anyways, here's two progress pics. So far I have 3 females, 2 that are sexing but I dont know the gender, and one alleged male. This is day 2 of 12/12 by the way! Started 12/12 on 5/18.

 

[doja420]

Day 8 of 12/12

Day 8 of 12/12

So this is Day 8 of 12/12. So far, I have one definite male, which I pulled today. Any ideas what I can do with it? Can I get some advice on which method for making hash is the easiest and least costly?

I also have 3 definite females . Then I have 2 other plants that have preflowers but haven't started full-fledged flowering; however they do look male . And then 3 other plants (all OHxSK#1's) that haven't showed sex at all.

Here's the male. He was grown from schwagg bagseed.


Here's the 3 other schwagg bagseed plants. The one in the middle is a confirmed female. The two beside her are both showing pre-flowers but they're not enough to determine actual sex. I fear they'll turn up male.


Here are my 3 OHxSK1 plants. They're looking great, but are stretching far worse than any of the other plants. As you can see, I've got one of them to form a bush but the other two were in too small a container. I'll transplant in the next few days when after the rest of the males show up, and then I should be able to begin training them again (The two tall ones I'll probably have to top, probably later today).



Here are my two mids bagseed plants (the third one was sick for most of it's existence so I decided to pull her to save space). They're both confirmed females


And here's a shot of the entire garden


So hey, any advice on what I should do with the male? What's the easiest way to make hash?

 

[doja420]

Day 12, 12/12

Day 12, 12/12

This is Day 12 of flowering. All the males have been weeded out. 5 in total, which is equal to exactly half the total of plants that I started with.

Anyways, just wanted to show a few pics of my progress.

Here are the males all-lined up on death row. They were chopped just after this. It was so sad to see them go


Here's a closeup of one of the males. You can kind of make out the balls through the blurriness of the pic (sorry!)


And here's my garden as it stands now. 4 total plants, all female. Only one of three OHxSK#1 plants wasn't male, unfortunately. 1 of 3 schwagg bagseed plants was female & 2 of 3 mids bagseed plants were female (the 3rd died after living it's entire life sick for reasons unknown to me).

 

[NorCalFor20]

looks good im doing my first grow in 5 years too i did once before outdoors but never indoors like this... how did you get your plants so bushy?

 

[Jochsmokes]

And now the fun part BUDDING!

Everything is lookin good, half males sucks that happened to me too!
This time will be femmed and clones for me!
good luck w/ the next 40-50 days

This is a pic of my untopped plant(middle front) 40 days ago and yesterday




Time flys when your growin bud! JS

 

[doja420]

looks good im doing my first grow in 5 years too i did once before outdoors but never indoors like this... how did you get your plants so bushy?

Nice, what kind of lights are you using. 5-6 years ago, CFLs weren't so popular. I'm glad I used them for this setup though. They add nice supplemental lighting to the HPS too.

I got my plants bushy but LST. 2 of the plants you see there are not trained in any way. Another was LST'd only ONE time. The bushy plant was continually LST'd. I like the way she came out too. I'll probably LST with every grow forward from now. Here's a pic few pics of her:

(on the left)


Thanks for checking out my grow

And now the fun part BUDDING!

Everything is lookin good, half males sucks that happened to me too!
This time will be femmed and clones for me!
good luck w/ the next 40-50 days

This is a pic of my untopped plant(middle front) 40 days ago and yesterday




Time flys when your growin bud! JS

Yeahhhh, I can't wait to see them in full bloom! I gave the bushiest plant her first feeding of bloom booster from Miracle Gro @ 1/3 recommended dose. The others won't be feed for another week or so since they were just transplanted.

Thanks for stopping by man. That bud looks great