HONEY OIL !DENATURED STYLE

[FRANKENBLUNT420]

aka FRIENDinDEED

aka FRIENDinDEED

hello haters and non haters...


friend in deed.. when u put the pyrex on the pan.. u need a couple pencils or pens or chop sticks inbetween the glass and the metal to keep the water from boiling over and shakin the bowl... i wash the material only once barly gettin the material wet.. and takin off only the good heads in the tricombes.. if u wash the material more then once u get greenish amber ... .

heres what happened, what you guys use as a heating source is a skillet, what i bought was a griddle, the difference is that the skillet has A high rim just like a normal frying pan, but a griddle is a flat surface. so i had to use a metal pan to put the water in, shitty thing about that , is that the pan was the same size as the pyrex so it couldnt fit in the pan flat/ level.

for next time i am gonna use a aluminum pan to hold water in and it would make greater contact with the heating source itself. its a pretty long griddle plate so i could fit two smaller pyrex pans on it if need be but what i bought is just fine for my needs, i just have to find out how i need to use it, when i need to do different things, I JSUT MAY HAE TO HAVE DIFFERENT PARTS TO USE. .

but heres another question ,since i am so new, my oil didn't come out gooey, well ti did but then it got hard and its a bitch to try and get it off the pan: CAN I JUST HEAT THE PYREX PAN BACK UP AND MELT THE HONEY OIL THAT WAY, OR WOULD IT JUST BURN UP SINCE ITS IN SUCH A SOLID STATE?

the oil itself tasted real nice, i smoked some on top of the SOUR DIESEL REMNANTS AND IT WAS DIVINE. DIDNT TASTE, SMELL THE ALCOHOL AT ALL, AND AFTER EVERYTHING IN THIS THREAD, I WAS HONESTLY LOOKIN FOR IT AND THERE WAS NO SIGN OF A FUNNY SMELL OR TASTE. now i just have to gather up whats in the pan so i could make better use of it.

p.s.- dont forget to answer that question for me about the heating it back up, very important!!!

 

[kilacaLIbud]

u can re heat the pan.. but what i do is get a razor blade and scape it up and use a lighter to heat it to a melt to melt it off.. into a jar....


good stuff... glad it worked out for u ,

 

[stealthballer]

guy has been told 50 times he is ingesting poison and still comes back to brag about what he has done.

some people just don't have a clue and never will

 

[Christian]

I guess you skimmed over the part where we have been saying Denatured alc has poison in it. hence the name "denatured" meaning add a poison to make it unconsumable.

The poison converts to vapor at about the same temperature as alcohol to prevent you from just heating it up and distill the alcohol.. so it should'nt be a problem

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

CAN I BUTANE WASH TRIM AFTER DENATURED WASH?

CAN I BUTANE WASH TRIM AFTER DENATURED WASH?

ok my dilemma ,leading me to using the denatured alcohol wash , was the fact that i was looking for something safe to do a butane wash of my trim, but was unable to find what people suggested to buy.

i finally found these cylindrical glass water bottles that i am going to cut the tops off of and then drill a hole in the bottom for the butane to go through, strap a coffee filter to the end and call it a day.

but as it says in the title: can i wash my trim with butane after having it gone through the denatured acohol wash? a lil FYI-the first time i washed with the denatured alcohol i resued the same liquid a total of three times, so im wondering is there anything left for the butane to get off.

another reason im asking is that, i want to get at those long stems of the trichs. i thought that once you used any sort of technique it got everything, but as someone on here said, you could still see the trichome stalks. im not so much worried about quality but getting all those essntial oils

i dont have any bubble bags or the like, dont want to use anything more than the butane or denatured alcohol, and i have found that most of the things people on here suggest using for various DIY projects, they dont give any ordering information or give the name of the store, specs on the product or even the type of store (dont get me wrong, specifics are given but very rarely)

any opinions or past experience with this Q? i didnt want to make a thread out of this but i guess i will if i have to. seems to be an important Q

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

[B]i want to know what you know. . . [/B]

i want to know what you know. . .

guy has been told 50 times he is ingesting poison and still comes back to brag about what he has done.

some people just don't have a clue and never will

correct me if im wrong but i thought once you tested whatever liquid you used, and there was no residue left over once heated or evap'ed then said liquid was safe to use. i actually read through the thread b4 i bought anything and saw that the best way to test is by heating. i didi that and there was no residue left.

my agreements with kilacaLIbud is that this system/method is tried and true ; my disagreement is that when you distribute information such as this (invivling processing cannabis with chemicals) the nyou do have somewhat of an obligation to inform, however you can and shouldnt shun any question. (IMO this is a topic that cant really progress with the question of why being answered with: "well why ask why?")

no disrespect to kilacaLIbud, but after reading this thread i just had the thought of "right thread, wrong person to post the info/thread" cause like i said, when you asking/advising someone to do a process like this then yeah, you gotta come to the defense on that intellactual level and not get upset when questioned about it

 

[kilacaLIbud]

my friend makes butane then runs it through denatured...

 

[FRIENDinDEED]

man iam so high of this oil its a shame, i will never , EVER thorw my trim away as long as i live!!!

kilacalibud thank you so much dude, you are the shit!!

 

[kilacaLIbud]

sorry im not the chemist who invented this method.. i just know how to make it .... if ur gonna do chemistry in ur house dont be suprized how its made... iso is 10000x more dangerious.. and taste horrible.. of coarse if i had acesss to true perfume grade alcohol then yes be my guest .. its not only the chemical u, use its the process of not extracting plant color/matter.. and only ripe trich heads..


glad u like it friend in deed...

 

[Woody Creek]

i tried it. not my smoke but will work for resale at medi clubs. fuckin crooks.

how is backyard chemisrty the industry standard???

 

[Trancerman]

i tried it. not my smoke but will work for resale at medi clubs. fuckin crooks.

how is backyard chemisrty the industry standard???

you pay for what you get...if cannabis were legal we would have the highest grade oil available cheap too

 

[FRANKENBLUNT420]

you pay for what you get...if cannabis were legal we would have the highest grade oil available cheap too

at this point the government has proved that it cant grow it right, G-13 was pure crap until it was taken out of the governments hands and a real grower flowered it out to perfection. now its a viable strain.

as long as the pharmaceutical companies dont get hold of it then hey im good, cause then they are gonna put the side affect spin to it, and charge you an arm, leg and one of your first born!!

 

[gordonliu]

note: most pharmaceutical companies make the compounds they sell, even things like morphine that have readily available natural sources.

big pharmas would just make THC. the synthesis is relatively straight forward (6 steps) and could probably benefit from a little bit of research to make it simpler. the dark side, aka metal mediated chemistry, could allow for a quicker and simpler synthesis.

Speaking of making things like this, I knew of a professor who moved from an east coast university to a canadian university. said professor had a deal with a pharma company to make bulk morphine, which his grad students made on kg scale.

said professor then drove, with several kilograms of pure morphine, over the canadian/american border and was not stopped!

 

[Woody Creek]

you pay for what you get...if cannabis were legal we would have the highest grade oil available cheap too

no. medical clubs sell shit. i've sold my pure to clubs and not seen it hit the shelf. can't sell caviar next to fishheads.

 

[Oilmeister]

The medical scene in Vancouver, BC sells reasonably good cannabis and extracts from what I've seen. When truly connoisseur grade product comes around, it is scoffed up by the people closest to the source . As long as cannabis is an illegal drug, there will be people with money willing to pay for superior cannabis and extracts. Of course, those in need of medical grade cannabis or it's derivatives are often economically challenged. This creates a situation where those most in need are those least able to afford it. The only way I see this changing is with the decriminalization of cannabis and it's derivatives.

 

[Woody Creek]

it's legal to grow food, but not many do it. why would everyone grow weed if it were legal?

 

[guest3854]

Used my bubble bags and produced a product a bit dark (hey, this was my maiden run) from over washing.

Steele

 

[G.O. Joe]

"While Methyl is toxic to a certain extent, it's Inhalation toxicity is not any worse then Ethyl"
This sounds a bit dubious to me. OSHA does not agree, which I saw when I used to work at a plant that bottles methanol, and at another plant that bottles ethanol.

The OP does not stress the desirability of good ventilation so I thought I'd say something because I really am concerned. BTW I'm more cavalier with chemicals than most and I'm not one of those who worry perhaps excessively about them.

Methanol is absorbed by inhalation and very slowly oxidized to formaldehyde, and then formic acid, in the same way that ethanol is converted to acetaldehyde and then acetic acid in the body. You may have heard of media formaldehyde freakouts like "toxic" FEMA trailers, that emit just a little formaldehyde. Your body does not like formic acid at all, and is responsible for the most obvious and immediate high-concentration methanol toxicity. I wouldn't be so sure that an amount inhaled over a long period of time causing no noticable effects is not causing any problems. The risk from long term exposure to low levels may be unknown.

From Toxnet:
"Humans (and non-human primates) are uniquely sensitive to methanol poisoning and the toxic effects in these species is characterized by formic acidaemia, metabolic acidosis, ocular toxicity, nervous system depression, blindness, coma and death. Nearly all of the available information on methanol toxicity in humans relates to the consequences of acute rather than chronic exposures. A vast majority of poisonings involving methanol have occurred from drinking adulterated beverages and from methanol-containing products. Although ingestion dominates as the most frequent route of poisoning, inhalation of high concentrations of methanol vapour and percutaneous absorption of methanolic liquids are as effective as the oral route in producing acute toxic effects...Visual disturbances of several types (blurring, constriction of the visible field, changes in colour perception, and temporary or permanent blindness) have been reported in workers who experienced methanol air levels of about 1500 mg/m3 (1200 ppm) or more."

All of this can be avoided by using some sort of fume hood equivalent, i.e. not exposing yourself to the vapor.

"i know that in denatured" means the polar molecules have been raised causeing the thc to change delta's" may be one of the rankest semi-solid steaming dumps ever taken on the internet.

That tar crap from soaking perfectly good pot in denatured alcohol is what the "old timers" around here call hash oil, not honey oil. I made it myself 20 years ago probably from that very brand and thought that it sucked, my bad I guess.

 

[Bumble Buddy]

Hmm, I prefer the term "hash oil" prefaced by the type of solvent used, to the term "honey oil", it doesn't come from bees :smile:. Maybe "resin oil" or "trichome oil" would be better terms...

Also, I suggest that anyone considering using denatured alcohol to thoroughly research the presence of any additives/contaminants and possible safety issues. I wouldn't use it or smoke anything made from it...

 

[rafe]

I just did this method using grain alcohol. I figured it was a natural byproduct from a plant. I intended to rub it on my gums but it got sticky real fast. I am going to do this again and not be so clumsy. As the alcohol is on a warm burner you can watch the trichomes collect like sand at the bottom of the dish. I used the smaller of the dishes and since I was learning I am glad. There was enough to collect on this dish but on a big dish it would have been harder to retrieve. I suppose the alcohol is ok to drink but be very careful. I lived in Alaska for 26 years and some villages outlawed Everclear then eventually made all booze illegal. Too many young villagers were killing themselves on the stuff or while drunk. Very sad. I was a bartender in a bar that was favored by the natives and I had many very good friends but saw a lot of people that simply just reacted very bad to the alcohol. I hate to sound any type of racist because my native friends will know I am not. Irish people also frequented the place. A lot of laborers and carpenters for the oil lines hung out there between jobs. The Irish bless there hearts seem to have a few more problems with the booze than most. Give this method a try and really if you drink the stuff be careful. It isn't vodka!.