Entirely too much coco

[evilunclephil]

I converted my garden to coco, so I'll start a thread here.

I'm doing 33 clones under 2kw of hps in 3 gallon bags full of canna coco, fed with the pure blend pro soil line of liquid ferts.

There's 17 durban poison x superskunk, 6 chunky NL bagseed, 4 godbud, 1 dynamite, 1 lemon diesel, 1 crystal quick, 1 purple indica, 1 sweet melon, and 1 cough.

I'll veg for another 2 weeks while I can root some clones from each genetic and get a mom of each started for the next run a few months down the road.

It's taken me like 8 bags of coco so far, and I still need a couple more

All boring veg pics for now, but it should be pretty interesting in like a month and a half

Here's what I've got:

Some whole garden pics




newbies:


most of the bigguns:


the other bigguns:


chunky NL bagseed:


Purple Indica:


durban poison x superskunk:



couple of godbuds:


Dynamite:


Lemon Diesel:

 

[clowntown]

Never too much.

 

[Guest 18340]

Wow dude, when all those plants start lovin the Coco, your garden is gonna be a junlge!!! Right on man, please do post the progress

 

[Grizz]

while there going to do great in the 3 gl bags I have found with a short veg and transplant into 1 gl bags at start of 12/12 works as good with less coco expense. But the good thing is you can reuse what you have time and again so its really up to you how much you wan't to spend now.

 

[Greyskull]

those plants are going to get HUGE!

 

[FunkBomb]

Its going to be one hell of a jungle

-Funk

 

[evilunclephil]

Took some individual plant shots last night

A couple of durban x superskunks after 2 weeks of veg:









And their big mommy, gotta wonder how much bud she's gonna make:




Purple Indica, by far the biggest I'll have ever put into bloom:




And the lemon diesel, which is gonna be as tall as me if it's got ANY stretch in flower:

 

[Guest 18340]

You're gonna need a machete at harvest time if you don't flower them soon! Guess the Cat is camera shy huh.

 

[evilunclephil]

Cleaned everything up, gonna switch over to flower later this week or early next week, we'll see how things go.

Before:



After:

 

[Father Time]

Looking good mate, going to be a big flower filled rooom when them girls spread their wings to flower!
Kind Regards, FT

 

[suckerrepellent]

beautiful looking plants, and congratulations on your switch to a new medium! Those bags of coco do go very quickly, but a way to help that is to mix one part of aerator per two or three parts coco. Perlite is a good classic, or you could try some of the newer stuff like im trying called fytocell. you will find yourself needing to water more (use less aeration if that is not a good option for you) and more explosive hydro type growth. plants can really take off in only two weeks of veg with nicely aerated coco.

 

[evilunclephil]

Thanks for all the all the awesome remarks guys!

suckerrepellant - How often to you water with your coco aerated like that? I mix hydroton into my coco a lot of the time, about the same ratios you were saying, and the big ladies start drooping after about 3 days.

 

[suckerrepellent]

that sounds about right. i water every three days because they show their thirst on the fourth. i apply a drenching water to the plants so they are essentially fully (all medium is soaked) hydrated every time. i don't know if the fytocell is available near you (its somewhat pricey too so watch out) but that is able to buy me an additional day, sometimes two depending on plant size. something about its consistency makes it very good at holding water. its almost like a more fragile sponge in fact. they get fed every three days as well though because i am doing a mix of pots with fyto and perlite so there is a convenience factor in feeding all at once.

 

[evilunclephil]

Day 4 of 12/12, everything is starting to really get big. I was getting some N deficiencies, so I've upped the dosage to a few key ladies, they'll probably start to show it in a few days.

Here's some pics I took right before the light turned on yesterday:

 

[gaiusmarius]

awesome garden evilunclephil, i would personally not mix the coco with anything, it has enough air in it at all times even freshly soaked as long as its not standing in puddles of water for weeks, the coco will always have optimum air content.

 

[Guest 18340]

Filling out nicely there 'phil.

 

[TGT]

So it's not nessisary to use anything mixed with the coco? I thought you would get better results mixing perlite with it, or so I have read. But if its not needed that is better for me. Makes it much more simple. I have a few plants I am doing this grow that are going into coco. The rest are in Promix like usual, so this will be a good side by side comparison to see which works better as I am using the same strain as always.

TGT

 

[knna]

So it's not nessisary to use anything mixed with the coco? I thought you would get better results mixing perlite with it, or so I have read. But if its not needed that is better for me. Makes it much more simple. I have a few plants I am doing this grow that are going into coco. The rest are in Promix like usual, so this will be a good side by side comparison to see which works better as I am using the same strain as always.

TGT

Exactly, as gaiusmarius noted, you dont have any need of mix the coco with anything. It works great alone.

Its more of a personal preference. Personally, i prefer to add 30% perlite for plants of e&f, while i prefer only a bit of perlite on hand watered plants.

Very nice garden, anyway

 

[Rosy Cheeks]

awesome garden evilunclephil, i would personally not mix the coco with anything, it has enough air in it at all times even freshly soaked as long as its not standing in puddles of water for weeks, the coco will always have optimum air content.

As said. Coco does not need to be mixed with an inert draining medium, that the beauty of coco. It does not retain enough liquid to create waterlogging, and the coarse coco fibers provide an areated environment for the roots.

The only time I had something that resembled waterlogging in coco was when I used coco recycled several times over (the fibers degrade slowly due to compacting and nutrient salt erosion) on young plants with rudimentary root structures.

The bottom line is, you have to stop thinking of coco as a soil medium.

It's a hydroponic medium, and should be used as such for optimal results.

 

[suckerrepellent]

There has been some good input regarding mixing aeration into your medium. as stated above, it is not necessary. I prefer to add something to mine because with higher aeration comes more explosive growth (although coco is fast, compare it to true hydro and you will see more explosive growth). more aeration means more air to the root zone.