Stealth Locked Doors

[CantBe2High]

I am not fully sure

I am not fully sure

CantBe2High:

I was wondering how your wife feels about you smoking? Does she mind if you just fire one up while the two of you are relaxing in the evening? Or does she not want to be around you when you're getting high?

My goal is to eventually get my fiancée to accept the fact that I enjoy getting high and will for the foreseeable future. Then convince her that it is far safer to grow it at home rather than buy it on the street.

What can I say, she's a great woman and we're really good for each other. Unfortunately this is one of the things we don't see eye to eye on.

Actually, I do think in part she doesn't really approve of my smoking. I must admit at times I do overdo it, and make the mistake of mixing herb with the very dangerous drug alcohol. Its not really a good mix, but the last bud I had I think was harvested too early, and had a real speedy aspect and the alcohol helped mellow it -- but I would sometimes get too trashed (in her view, in my view I felt pretty good!)

But the illegal argument is hard to counter, and its hard to argue a case where I would grow in the house and there is no chance if her getting in trouble. The chance is very very low, she could deny knowing about it (and given my setup that would not be a stretch), and I would agree. Heck, in all the time we've been arguing about it I could have completed a full grow in an attic without her knowing -- but I agree that is really not fair to her, and there is a risk of accidental discovery that she could have prevented had she known.

There is some control issues going on. She would rather me not smoke, really want me to not smoke and drink (which I would agree to, but my past history makes me a bad risk in that promise department). But for the past 5 years, she never seemed to have issues with me having it around and smoking a few times a week. Now, we live in a state with no cultivation law, its all about the weight, she had no problem when I had dead weed, but doesn't want me to have living weed.

I am contemplating a few, very stealthy outside grow sites, but that is really more risk to me. I am still working to counter her arguments, and get her/bribe her to tolerate one quick grow that should set me up for a couple years. I went through a total of 1.5 ounces last year. An outdoor grow with a goal of just a few ounces should be pretty achievable, but I would still prefer indoor grow as its safer to me, I have few seeds to waste, and don't have the time to sneak about the countryside caring for plants.

 

[mysticls]

1.5 oz and you said at times you over did it?? lol

also you say you make decent money so why don't you rent out a house or a warehouse for 6 months.. say you spend 6k in rent, another 1500 in electric and you could pull 2 bigger harvest and be set for many yrs


god this whole thread sounds so familiar to me.. fucking women.. don't ever have a kid with a girl and than expect her to be ok with you smoking or growing.. honestly you shouldn't even have weed around at all cuz 50% or more of all relationships fail and a lot of times you will end up in court and the first thing that will come out of her mouth.....Esp if there is a kid involved

 

[CantBe2High]

Yep

Yep

1.5 oz and you said at times you over did it?? lol

also you say you make decent money so why don't you rent out a house or a warehouse for 6 months.. say you spend 6k in rent, another 1500 in electric and you could pull 2 bigger harvest and be set for many yrs


god this whole thread sounds so familiar to me.. fucking women.. don't ever have a kid with a girl and than expect her to be ok with you smoking or growing.. honestly you shouldn't even have weed around at all cuz 50% or more of all relationships fail and a lot of times you will end up in court and the first thing that will come out of her mouth.....Esp if there is a kid involved

I know, women. What you describe is one option. Get a trailer in a park, or a rented business space. Just all seems a silly waste of money given I have an empty 1000 square foot guest house with closets, attics, crawlways, etc. At least we are beyond the kid stage -- well, mostly, one of her college age kids is gonna move in with us, and that is one of her issues -- no growing with the 18 year old baby living at home. I just want one quick grow before she moves in.

Yep, and at 1.5 ounces a year, I am an absolute waste case. Last year income was multiple $100Ks of cash. Total slacker here. Why can't a 50-ish+ old stoner enjoy a bit of life and have a little special garden???

 

[messn'n'gommin']

Am wondering if she might go for you putting up a small shed on the property with a visible lock and running electricity to it. IF anything untowards were to happen it would offer her plausible deniabililty. i.e. "He said it was his 'man room!' and no one was allowed in there!" You could get 2 or 3 grows during the fall/winter/spring. Don't know about your state but in mine 4 or fewer plants is a misdemeanor and some can grow 4 good sized bushes in the area of a small shed (read 3/4 to 1 lb).

 

[Vermonster]

god this whole thread sounds so familiar to me.. fucking women.. don't ever have a kid with a girl and than expect her to be ok with you smoking or growing.. honestly you shouldn't even have weed around at all cuz 50% or more of all relationships fail and a lot of times you will end up in court and the first thing that will come out of her mouth.....Esp if there is a kid involved

Right on man, that court thing has always been my big issue and is why i always try and make up, now that i have about a month and a half off hard drugs and in treatment my wife is actually being cool about the night time herb, just no daytime use, which is ok since i work most days except weekend ones, she just says wait till your son goes to bed.........well anyway Can'tbe growing w/ an 18 year old, thats a bit hairy, does she smoke? do you know? just seems like her and her BF could go out to the backhouse and be like hmmmm WTF is this? your wife may be right....multiple 100K a year and only 1.5 oz's? i get the need for good homegrown, but you could surley get something real nice that someone else grew for that money....and it would be a minor dent to your pocketbook, if its not a more then a need for weed i.e. a real will to grow cause you enjoy it, then i would just buy a few oz's of some nice shit (if you can find it) and wait till the time is better. My main reason for growing is that i can't afford to smoke the quality and amount i want too with out being broke...but near me 2 g's of good non commerc. garbage is 60 so thats like a few joints and that is crazy....i stopped growing for any reasons other then personal use when my son was born and i have to rent a side place if and when i need a new crop..i usualy do it every other year or so...get a few oz's then pack it in, but like i said before things are still a problem if it is reveled and plus i have to sell some sometimes if i want to keep renting a side spot, its just stressful......but you know weed won't give you head or keep you warm when your cold or visit you in the hospital, yeah know.....

 

[Old Soul]

Let me begin by saying I am a smoker and my wife is a drinker. My wife does smoke but could easily give it up. She could not give up drinking, though as she likes it very much. I do not like drinking, however, and do not think I will ever stop smoking. When we first got together I started growing in our garage. Two years later we moved to another state and she did not want me to start again. I explained that trying to find pot when I did not know anyone was far more dangerous than growing my own, especially since I refused to smoke anything but the highest quality. I also showed her that I could set up my equipment in a cabinet to keep it stealthy. We have had many discussion on this and the key for me is keeping my head and not blowing up about the subject. I remind her that she could never give up drinking and I am not at a point to give up smoking. Most importantly I remind her that we cannot control each other and that I will continue to smoke no matter what. Growing is just much less risk because I only deal with myself. If I go to pick up a bag from someone how do I know that they didn't get popped recently and are trying to set me up? Too many factors with buying weed.

As far as it being illegal goes, there are many things to combat that. Does she ever speed when she drives? No one agrees with all of the laws that the govt sets down for us and it is our duty to live as FREE men and women should. During prohibition there were brave individuals who risked being caught making their own alcohol because they did not agree with the govt and their attempt to control us. Marijuana Prohibition still exists and it is our duty to overgrow the world until they realize that no matter what they do we are going to keep growing and smoking it. It may take 100 yrs but I will never stop fighting for it. That is our right. I know the risks of growing and am willing to take the risk. Although, I think the risk is almost non-existent if you follow the simple rules. No Tell, No Smell, No Sell.

It took awhile but my wife has come around. I am very blessed to have an open minded woman who listens to my side of the story. Don't get me wrong, she still has her moments and in frustration will call me a fucking pothead, and say that I act like such a stoner. This does not bother me however, as I have witnessed her on many occasions acting like a drunken fool (although I never bring this up, it would be asking for an argument).

It always has to be a two way street and I am sure she does things you would rather she didn't but we cannot control each other. We have to find a happy medium to live in peace and harmony. I hope everything works out for you. Sorry for the stoned ramble.

Peace

 

[vapor.dr]

Originally Posted by mysticls
god this whole thread sounds so familiar to me.. fucking women..

Yes, unfortunately I have a weakness for my woman more so than a weakness for mary jane.... what can I say...

Originally Posted by Old Soul
...Although, I think the risk is almost non-existent if you follow the simple rules. No Tell, No Smell, No Sell.

I agree, I think of those 3 rules are followed you're far safer than going to any dealer . Theres always the off chance your place catches on fire and the fire department sees your grow, or you house gets burglarized or something bad like that happens and the cops stumble upon it. But you shouldn't worry a lot about things like that that are totally out of your control. The challenge is making your significant other understand how low the risk really is.

What really kills me though is how people at my office will openly talk about brewing beer at home, which IMHO is no different at all than growing some herb. Yet one act is illegal while the other is legal and socially acceptable. I really don't understand that about our society, but I digress.

 

[CantBe2High]

We can work it out

We can work it out

Well, after another big discussion with my girlfriend/wife/soulmate/sweety/occasional nemisis, and after me accusing her of changing and being "anti-weed", it seems we finally have some sort of resolution. I am just going to buy a vacation cabin/home/shack/manufactured home about 30-60 miles away from our home in my name only. I can have a small grow, we can have a vacation house, and its an investment that could pay off. I'll have to automate the watering and such, maybe a remote internet camera, but I can get fixer-uppers starting at 30K, so I guess its a hobby that could pay. Plus I'll have another level of indirection to me. There is a lake about 30 miles away where vacation spots are common.

I caught her at a good time to be reasonable today though. This morning, while I was LEAVING TO WORK FOR MY 130k+ A YEAR JOB, at 6:30AM in the morning and SHE WAS STILL ASLEEP, I gently kissed her on the forehead to say goodbye. I guess he was having a bad dream, she head butted me, slapped me in the face, and karate chopped me in the neck. For once the guilt worked in my favor.

She is still being silly given the laws in the state we live, but if it works for her, it works for me. Has some benefits too. Heck, due to previous deals she already owes me a sports car. A vacation cabin costs about the same. Wow, I'll actually have my own little grow cab"in".

 

[Guest]

Well, after another big discussion with my girlfriend/wife/soulmate/sweety/occasional nemisis, and after me accusing her of changing and being "anti-weed", it seems we finally have some sort of resolution. I am just going to buy a vacation cabin/home/shack/manufactured home about 30-60 miles away from our home in my name only. I can have a small grow, we can have a vacation house, and its an investment that could pay off. I'll have to automate the watering and such, maybe a remote internet camera, but I can get fixer-uppers starting at 30K, so I guess its a hobby that could pay. Plus I'll have another level of indirection to me. There is a lake about 30 miles away where vacation spots are common.

I caught her at a good time to be reasonable today though. This morning, while I was LEAVING TO WORK FOR MY 130k+ A YEAR JOB, at 6:30AM in the morning and SHE WAS STILL ASLEEP, I gently kissed her on the forehead to say goodbye. I guess he was having a bad dream, she head butted me, slapped me in the face, and karate chopped me in the neck. For once the guilt worked in my favor.

She is still being silly given the laws in the state we live, but if it works for her, it works for me. Has some benefits too. Heck, due to previous deals she already owes me a sports car. A vacation cabin costs about the same. Wow, I'll actually have my own little grow cab"in".

2 pieces of advice.

1: If you have a good job, dont risk losing it just to grow your own. Get/find someone worthwhile to buy it from.

2: A grow that far away from home isn't easy to maintain, even with automation. Neighbors can be more of a problem in the country than in the city. You will still have surprise visits from electric companies, gas/propane companies, locals who are just nosy, hunters, etc, etc, etc.

Trust me on this.

 

[cordobayumyum]

CantBe2High,

I understand your predicament. To answer your original question, there are a few different ways to have a door stealthily secured. If you google remote control deadbolt or proximity deadbolt you will find two popular solutions.

The 3rd hit on google for remote control deadbolt reveals a DIY remote control deadbolt. I would suggest the remote control option over the proximity because it seems like you have to place the prox. card very close to the reader in order for it to be recognized, which might make it difficult to install inconspicuously. With the remote control, you could place the receiver inside the grow room.

I can't link to the URLs but if you search the forums here for hidden lock you will find a few other threads that discuss the issue of securing a door without modifying the external appearance:


I would re-consider buying a house to be used solely for growing your stash for two reasons. Firstly, in some areas it would be an additional charge to "maintain a residence" for the purpose of illegal activity. Secondly, grow automation is difficult and costly.

A small grow in your house seems like a better idea to me. When was the last time you saw an article in the Statesman/Chronicle/ on TV/ about an affluent guy growing an ounce in a cupboard? If you were to get busted it wouldn't likely draw any media attention in Austin, so it would be unlikely that your co-workers/employer would ever learn of it. Of course there are professions where the license to practice may be revoked if there are concerns of "moral turpitude", but you probably know best if this applies to you or not.

If I were in your position I would consult with a qualified attorney about the legal ramifications of something you might do. A layman's interpretation of Texas law seems to indicate that possession of less than a pound results in mandatory drug treatment and probation but no jail time. However please keep in mind when thinking about your situation that some LEO weigh wet untrimmed plants when determining the level of offense to ascribe. You could easily supply your hobby with one small cabinet grow per year further reducing your chance of detection and prosecution.

While property seizure laws do favor LEO, it seems that your steady legitimate source of income could convince LEO not to attempt to seize your property. Advice from a lawyer might help to further assuage your wife's fears.

One last thing, to most LEO it seems that hydro = commercial, so grow in dirt in the least complicated manner possible.

HTH,

Cba

 

[CantBe2High]

Thanks all

Thanks all

Well, I do have a resolution of sorts, I think. The wife has agreed to let me grow 1 plant at a time, from time to time, and see how she deals with it. Still looking for a stealth locked door as I want it to be out of site, out of her occasionally paranoid mind. Got various seeds, including some fems, so gonna do one test grow to see how it goes. The point about never reading about small busts is something I have made to my wife.

Just one plant in an attic hardly counts as a huge bust worthy of attention.

 

[julsbagell]

good luck brother already seems way to complicated to grow one or two plants.Sometimes when stuff is that hard to get your point across its gonna get thrown back in your face later be carefull.

 

[PurplePotion]

Now get a 1K and grow a damned 1.5lb tree! It's only _ONE_ plant :smile:

 

[CantBe2High]

Heh heh heh

Heh heh heh

Now get a 1K and grow a damned 1.5lb tree! It's only _ONE_ plant :smile:

Yes, I was going to do a quick LR2 grow as its small, would be well below the 2oz level for minimum charges in my state, but now my wife is not sure if she can handle it long term I am thinking of something with a bit more yield, have some WW fems so that may be a good start.

The only reason now I am thinking of stealth locked doors is the wife thinks it looks strange to have a locking door on a closet. Now that she is gonna let me try its less of a big deal. There will be 2 locked doors between an unused bedroom and my 1 plant grow, so nobody is gonna see it anyway. But if she still is paranoid I will consider more invisible locks. I am encouraging her to just ignore what I am up to and use the out of sight out of mind principle!