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Dr Dog

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http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2008/04/13/5275286-cp.html




Medical marijuana users owe feds $500K
Deadbeat dopers
By Dean Beeby, THE CANADIAN PRESS



(AP photo)

OTTAWA - Medical marijuana users are on the hook for more than $500,000 in unpaid bills for government-certified weed, raising questions about the effectiveness of Health Canada's troubled dope program.

Newly disclosed statistics show that Health Canada has sent final notices - and sometimes dispatched a collection agency as well - to 462 registered users since government marijuana first became available in 2003.

"Most of the 462 individuals who have received a letter regarding their accounts in arrears have had their shipment ceased," department spokesman Paul Duchesne said in an e-mail.

The unpaid bills, totalling $554,255 as of Dec. 31, have tripled in value in the last two years and have resulted in some seriously ill citizens returning to the black market for their medication. The marijuana distribution service was specifically designed to give patients a legal alternative to street dope.

Officials have handed 29 overdue accounts to collection agencies who so far have been able to recoup just $2,000.

The statistics, acquired through the Access to Information Act and questions to Health Canada, suggest a deeply flawed program as the number of users in arrears has soared to about two-thirds of all 739 patients licensed to buy government dope.


A series of adverse court rulings since 2000 forced Health Canada into the medical marijuana business. The program licenses certified users who've been prescribed cannabis by their doctors, and allows them to grow their own, have someone grow it for them, or buy directly from the department.

Health Canada has paid Prairie Plant Systems Inc. more than $10 million to cultivate a strain of pot in a mine shaft in Flin Flon, Man. Accredited patients can then buy the dope, with a THC content - the active ingredient - of 12.5 per cent, for $5 a gram.

The department has said it plans eventually to end its licensing of home-grown dope, forcing all medical users to buy their supplies directly from the government, perhaps through pharmacy distribution. Prairie Plant Systems now couriers the weed in 30-gram packets directly to users.

Spokesmen for the department did not respond to requests for comment and reaction.

Health Canada previously allowed a 90-day grace period for payment but has since reduced it to 30 days before considering an account in arrears. Other restrictive changes have been made to the program in the last two years, including efforts to persuade doctors to keep doses low.

Many seriously ill medical users are impoverished, unable to work, and survive on disability payments, provincial drug plans and charity. Medical marijuana has never been assigned official drug status by Health Canada and is therefore not covered by pharmacare programs.

Users typically smoke marijuana to combat nausea and pain associated with chronic ailments, resulting from such infections as HIV and hepatitis C, after standard medicines fail.

Mark Schollenberg, 42, of Stoney Creek, Ont., uses marijuana to control chronic pain from a series of workplace injuries. Unable to work and on disability, he initially used street marijuana but changed his mind.

"I thought instead of causing myself any problems, I should get a licence and do it legally," he said in an interview.

With a doctor's approval, Schollenberg got a licence and ordered his first batch of Health Canada dope last summer assuming Ottawa would cover the costs.

He was cut off in October, now owes $3,962.34 including interest, and is back on the street to purchase his medicine.

"I can't even afford the black market," he says of his five-gram-a-day requirement.

Jason Wilcox of Victoria currently owes Health Canada $6,770.06, a number that will increase with interest charges each month.

Wilcox, 37, has been HIV-positive since at least 1993, and needs 10 grams of marijuana daily for nausea, for severe pain in his foot and to help him sleep.

He says he became angry on learning that Health Canada charges users 1,500 per cent more than it pays Prairie Plant Systems for the dope.

"At that point, I refused to pay," he said in an interview. "Also, not to mention that their product is crap."

Wilcox and his wife Theresa Anne Genovy, who herself owes Health Canada $3,297.21 for medical marijuana, now grow what they can but must still return to the streets for their full doses.

"I have no other source than the illegal underground," he says. "The only medication I pay for in this province is cannabis."
 
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socioecologist

A 1500% markup on dope that is costing end-users $5 / gram? That means Prairie Systems is selling their pot to the Canadian government for $150 / pound? Sounds like the government gave the contract to the lowest bidder in an effort to ensure the poorest quality possible--seriously, $150 a pound? It was setup up to fail from the start.
 

hunt4genetics

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since we are on the topic,
how is the quality of Health Canada's weed?
I heard the US federal weed (University of mississippi) blows.

just curious toknow what the state considers good weed.


peace
 
W

Wunderkind

I doubt they, the Canadian government, had intent of getting poor quality marijuana, if they are in fact getting poor quality pot. It's just how a business works. The top bidder gets the contract.

The problem is they're charging $5/g. Like the title says, they're dealers. They're selling pot for profit.
 
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Dr Dog

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LOL you mods are killing me, I keep trying to find replies to my threads and they are moved

But onto your question Hunt4

From what I have heard it sucks, full of seeds, and inconsistent

Apparently security there is like fort knox as well
 

sirgrassalot

Domesticator of Cannabis
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Health Canada looking for firm to grow its medical marijuana

Health Canada looking for firm to grow its medical marijuana

Hey Dog I thought you deleted this thread but I found it! LoL

They should give the people that were involved in the Molson's Plant in Barrie amnesty & a job.


OTTAWA - Health Canada is looking for someone to grow its weed.

The department served notice Monday it will soon invite firms to bid on a contract to cultivate and distribute medical marijuana, which is now being done in Flin Flon, Man., by Prairie Plant Systems Inc.

The winning firm will be expected to deliver a steady stream of government-approved dope to certified medical, users starting in the fall.

Health Canada posted a notice on a government tenders website saying it would put out a formal request for proposals in the spring of 2008, without specifying a date.

Ottawa has been a reluctant supplier of pot since a series of court rulings forced it into the medical marijuana business.

The marijuana program licenses certified medical users to grow their own pot, to have someone grow it for them or to buy it straight from Health Canada.

The department has paid Prairie Plant Systems more than $10 million to cultivate government-certified dope in a mine shaft in Flin Flon, Man.

The company couriers the weed directly to users in 30-gram packets.

Health Canada first awarded Prairie Plant Systems the deal in late 2000 and has been extending it in six-month increments since 2006, says company president Brent Zettl.

He added the company has yet to decide whether it will bid on the new contract, although he expects it will.

"We didn't expect that this process would be able to continue. ... These are the rules that they have to abide by," Zettl said.

"We had anticipated internally that something would have to happen. We expected it would be something along these lines."

The winning firm could wind up in the advantageous position of one day being the sole supplier of medical marijuana.

Health Canada has said it plans to eventually end its licensing of home-grown weed. That would force all medical users to buy their supplies directly from Ottawa, perhaps through pharmacy distribution.

Ron Marzel, a Toronto lawyer who recently brought the matter before the Federal Court on behalf of a group of medical users, says he's concerned about any monopoly on legal production and supply of the drug.

"The government's just had such a horrible track record in terms of supplying medication to patients," he said.

"There are many different strains of cannabis out there and the government's position to date has been, 'Well, we're growing one strain and we've got one supplier and that's it. Live with it.'

"The pharmacological evidence is that different ailments require, and different symptomatology require, treatment with different strains. And the government hasn't paid heed to that at all."

The Federal Court decision in January struck down a key restriction in the government's pot program.

A judge's ruling eased Ottawa's grip on medical marijuana by allowing growers to supply the drug to more than one user. Prior to the ruling, each licensed grower could supply only one licensed user.

The federal government is appealing the decision.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/2008/04/14/5281591-cp.html
 
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Marco Renda

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I have personally tried the CRAP that the Canadian Government is selling. If they think that they can get away with taking away the grow permits of Exemptees then they will have a class action lawsuit to fight.

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Marco Renda
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The Alternative Medicine Journal
 

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