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Sh*tiest Day Ever!!!

Merman

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I'm going on record for the sh*tiest day ever....

Woke up late, coffeed up, chilled with the fam, casual breakfast, read the paper (but only the good parts), and just generally relaxed into the day.....

Wife and I are getting the kids ready to go the park.... "Let me just start the clothers washer before we go..." Almost out the door when I hear the sound.... The sound of plumbing gone bad.....Arrrrrghh :fsu:

Sure enough the tub, sink, and toilet are filling up with black water as the clothes washer goes into the cycle. CRAP! Shut everything off. To top it off..... its Sunday.... at 2:00 PM.....

Now, my house was built post and pier style in 1962. It was originally designed as a summer season cabin and was never meant to be year round. Needless to say, I've got thousands of hours in this place to get it to the current state (which rocks by the way)....Over the course of time I have developed a love/hate relationship with my crawlspace which at the junction of all the plumbing is about 24 inches to the subfloor between the floor joists.

Anyhow, when the "houses" in my neighborhood were built, they used this certain kind of pipe for all the drain lines. It looks like tarpaper shaped into a tube and then baked till its hard. The oldtimers at the hardware said its called 'orangegrove' or 'orangebaum' or something like that.

I finally find the general area of blockage and start dissecting. My plumbing is mixed ABS, cast iron, and (evidently) this orangebaum stuff. It appears the turd is just before the junction of the toilet stack and maybe goes ??????? down the line.

So, I go to open the cleanout farthest away from the turd..... keep in mind there's probably 20-30 gallons of black water backed up in the system under gravity pressure. Sure enough..... I open the cleanout and the fitting breaks showering me with the foulest watery stench you can think of. The entire dirtfloor crapspace gets covered in shite! Now, the only thing I can do is bellycrawl through to make repairs. :cuss:

I won't bore you with the gory details of digging up 10 feet of cracked and crumbling sewerline.... Turns out this 'orangebaum' pipe had cracked and a root had made its way up into the line and filled about four feet of pipe with roots and accumulated waste......NASTY!!! Now that's organic hydro! I grab some pliers and pull out a four foot long root entangled turd! Guess that last one I laid this morning after coffee did the system in.... 'Capt'n, she's gonna blow!'

After four hours swilling around in the muck, I was able to couple the 61/4" O.D. cast iron pipe to some ABS.

I almost called up Mike Rowe and asked him to bring the crew over.
:jawdrop:

F*cking Horrible!
 
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B.C.

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aaawwwww man!

aaawwwww man!

Damn dude, you weren't kiddin "shittiest" day ever! eewww! lol Hey at least that won't be problem anymore. Dirty job I guess... Hey man....take a shower! lol Good luck in the future! Take care..BC
 
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BRNEYDBVR

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OooooooWeeeeeeee!!!!!! Nasty stuff..... I do feel and smell your pain.

I had to help a friend not long ago with a similar experience.

I'm really sorry that this happened to you on a sunday afternoon.... It'll ruin your day with the quickness!

But look at it this way..... It could have been a whole lot worse!

Just be grateful that you have the skills and knowledge to do the repair yourself....instead of having to hire a plumber!

Of course you already knew that.....

Shit rolls downhill, Don't bite your fingernails, and payday is on friday!!! LOL!!

Take it easy...bro. :rasta:


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Merman

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Here's something I found about the 'orangeburg' pipe (thanks Stoner4life)....


Is Your Sewer Drain Pipe Falling Apart?: What is Orangeburg Tile?

Orangeburg tile is a drain tile, which runs from the house to the street. It is installed about 10’ underground. Orangeburg tile is not orange, it is black. Orangeburg tile is not a tile; it is a cardboard tube or pipe installed in homes built between 1948 and 1963.

Orangeburg pipe is actually a kind of tarpaper that's rolled up about 10 layers thick to create a tube. It is bound together with a special water resistant adhesive and treated under pressure with hot liquefied coal tar pitch to repel rodents and roots. It is used as the sewer pipe that runs from the house to the street.

The correct name for this type of pipe is bituminized fiber pipe. The common name is Orangeburg pipe. Orangeburgh is the name of a city in New York, which was renamed in the 1940’s to Orangeburg.

What’s the Problem?

The pipe collapses plugs up and can cause sewage backups in basements. The pipe is also at the end of the normal life span, which is 50 to 60 years.

This type of pipe has been taken off the "acceptable" list by most Plumbing Codes Departments because it delaminates and comes apart.
Since the pipe is at the end of its life, much of it in the southeast Michigan area needs to be replaced and it can be expensive to do so.
Almost 50% of homes in Ann Arbor, Michigan built between 1949 and 1963 have Orangeburg pipe. Almost 80% of the homes in Birmingham, Michigan built between 1949 and 1963 have Orangeburg pipe.

Another problem with Orangeburg pipe is it there is a sewage backup; cutters on plumber’s power rodding equipment can chew it up.

If that isn’t enough, we have never found Orangeburg pipe installed correctly in southeast Michigan. The manufacturer’s installation instructions say it has to be bedded in concrete or soil free of rocks/debris (sand). We’re still looking.

The History of Orangeburg Tile

Fiber conduit pipe first appeared and evolved during the industrial age as a cheap replacement for other types of pipe. The first known use of fiber pipe as a sewer pipe is a 1.5-mile pipeline in the Boston area, which stayed in service for 62 years from 1865-1927. Note the 50 to 60 year life span.

In 1893, Stephen Bradley, Sr. founded the Fibre Conduit Company in Orangeburg, New York and manufactured large quantities of it. The pipe was used for running electrical lines throughout the floors and walls of skyscrapers. There is 1200 miles of it in the Empire State Building.

The sewer pipe was made in 10’ lengths beginning in 1940. The Fiber Conduit Company between 1940 and 1948 manufactured Orangeburg pipe. The Flintkote Company purchased the Fiber Conduit Company in 1948 and continued making Orangeburg pipe until 1972. Flintkote Company was shipping out 500 tons a week and it went out to every State in the Union.

Orangeburg pipe" became a household name among trades’ people - even for the pipe made by Orangeburg's competitors.

What problems have been experienced with Orangeburg Sewer Installations?

The bituminous material tends to deteriorate with age. As the material deteriorates the pipe begins to be flattened out and no longer maintains a round interior circumference. The flattened pipe can be further damaged by the use of router tools.

In addition, the pipes are subject to invasion by plant roots. The plant roots grow within the pipe and eventually restrict or block the flow.

These problems are manifested in repeated backups of the sewer line from the house to the public sewer in the street or alleyway. Clearing affected sewer lines with mechanical router tools will result in only a temporary improvement.
 
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Merman

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I'm feeling much better after a couple gin and tonics and several large bong loads of Bubblelicious.....

The stink is still on me after two showers! GODDAMN!

Guess who's sleeping on the couch tonight?!
 

Haps

stone fool
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I had to fix that crap twice in my chicgo house, they aught to shoot the fucker that came up with that stupid pipe. You missed all the fun if you did not have to dig a three foot deep trench by hand, in winter, hehe.
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Tokermon

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I was thinking of becoming a plumber but after reading that and what i might have to do i think i'll find a less messy trade! Good luck anyway!
 
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