Help with Diabetes please.

[Guest]

Hey everyone my first time in here asking for help but I need it for my Dad..
He has diabetes and it's progressing up his left leg.
Would Bubba kush help him out any? The Doctors say he's gonna lose his foot... I wanna know if it'll help in the future in anyway.
I'll bake him a million bubbakush cookies if it'll help him.
If not could you suggest a strain that'll just overall help him alittle?
I just want him to be happy.

Thx Hendo

 

[SCF]

Here are a few websites about marijuana and the medical effects on diabetes. I'm sorry to hear about your troubles. What are you trying to help him with? Pain level? Eating? Neurological Damage? Yes marijuana can help with all those. Id suggest a heavy Indica and Bubba Kush just might do the trick. Maybe have him take a hit before cooking them to see how he reacts. I hope you find your answers.

DIABETES
*Getting Eye On Cannabinoids
http://www.thehempire.com/index.php...on_cannabinoids

*Marijuana compound could prevent eye damage in diabetics
http://www.thehempire.com/index.php..._in_dia betics

*The synthetic cannabinoid HU-210 attenuates neural damage in diabetic mice
http://ccicnewsletter.com/index.php...c#_Toc177908911

*Cannabidiol arrests onset of autoimmune diabetes in NOD mice
http://ccicnewsletter.com/index.php...c#_Toc177908919

 

[Guest]

The initial diagnosis is osteomyelitis but there waiting on the blood test..
I'm trying to help with eatting,pain,stress,circulation in lower extremeties,hypoglycemic even thou diabete,he's septic because of infection in blood stream and he's sweating bad because of the infection..

The infections are coming from a wound on his foot thats he's lost three toes from because of diabeties.

I'll try the bubba kush ASAP and thanks SCF..

 

[SCF]

That's really to bad. My only concern, and im not to educated on Diabetes. Is that when he gets the munchies is he able to eat junk food etc. And that his blood pressure may rise or lower and dont know if this will be a bad thing. But all in all its worth a shot if he is willing too. If anything it will help limit the narcotic medication he may be taking.

SCF

 

[Guest]

That's really to bad. My only concern, and im not to educated on Diabetes. Is that when he gets the munchies is he able to eat junk food etc. And that his blood pressure may rise or lower and dont know if this will be a bad thing. But all in all its worth a shot if he is willing too. If anything it will help limit the narcotic medication he may be taking.

SCF

He already eats junk food .. I was thinking maybe if we had vegatables n fruits around and he was hungry he'd eat those instead..


Thank you very much for your help SCF!

 

[guest]

Hey everyone my first time in here asking for help but I need it for my Dad..
He has diabetes and it's progressing up his left leg.
Would Bubba kush help him out any? The Doctors say he's gonna lose his foot... I wanna know if it'll help in the future in anyway.
I'll bake him a million bubbakush cookies if it'll help him.
If not could you suggest a strain that'll just overall help him alittle?
I just want him to be happy.

Thx Hendo

Here are some of the hints that I've run into by personal experence:

For the last six months before my grow got busted I didn't take any glucophage. This is after being on it for almost ten years.

When my grow got raided I spent the next 42 days in jail.
While in jail, I received no diabetic medicine at all.
They had me on the restricted diabetic diet.
While in jail my sugar readings ran from 90-109 with one reading of 75.
After getting out, my sugar has since spiked up. 300-400 areas.
I'm back on the glucophage and my doctor has been trying to get me to start using a needle.

Before I got busted:

I was searching for high CBD content strains. I did this because I had read about CBD and diabetes in medical studies.

CBD does not get you high. It does temper the effect of THC. It slows the rate that the body deals with THC.

One clue that you are working with a good CBD content strain is that they are commonly called "creeper." It should take a slightly longer time to get you buzzed and have a longer duration. 3-4 hours verses a low CBD weed that hits you fast but lasts only 1.5-2 hours.

I was doing a lot of cooking with my weed. I made cookies and brownies and ate many.

Since I got out I've seen many folks mention that best medical results are obtained from eating instead of smoking.

When tested with mice, CBD was found to greatly reduce the amount of chemicals in the blood that cause the pancres to inflame. This, in turn, lowered the inflamation and allowed it to function normally.

The anti-inflamation properties of marijuana are very well documented.

It is also well documented that marijuana it much much more effective than morphine in reducing pain caused by diabetes. I believe this is because it is actually working against the diabetes itself and not just masking the pain.

See the Rick Simpson Story. These people are pounding about anti-cancer properties. But you'll also notice they talk about people getting off insulin. While watching the video I noticed:

They were working with strains that tended to have high CBD content.
They were eating the extract.
They were using the whole plant, not just the flowers.

Here is a link to the story:
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=81325&page=1
There are testimonies from former terminal cancer patients that no longer have cancer in this video. They seem to be real.

One last note:
The best known side effect of marijuana is the munchies. This is a result of the marijuana lowering blood sugar.

 

[Storm Crow]

And here's more.....

And here's more.....

Cannabinoid Reduces Incidence Of Diabetes
http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6909

Marijuana Compound May Help Stop Diabetic Retinopathy
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/02/060227184647.htm

Cannabidiol lowers incidence of diabetes in non-obese diabetic mice
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/conte...00002/art00009;jsessionid=697msn7o5efqr.alice

Anticoagulant Effects of a Cannabis Extract in an Obese Rat Model
http://www.level1diet.com/research/id/14687

Neuroprotective and Blood-Retinal Barrier-Preserving Effects of Cannabidiol
http://ajp.amjpathol.org/cgi/content/full/168/1/235

The Cannabinergic System as a Target for Anti-inflammatory Therapies
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/ben/ctmc/2006/00000006/00000013/art00008

Effect of tetrahydrocurcumin on blood glucose, plasma insulin and hepatic key enzymes
http://www.unboundmedicine.com/medl...zymes_in_streptozotocin_induced_diabetic_rats

Cannabidiol reduces the development of diabetes in an animal study
http://www.cannabis-med.org/english/bulletin/ww_en_db_cannabis_artikel.php?id=219#3


Try fresh raw aloe vera on the sores. Just get a plant and split the leaf to reveal the goo inside. Rub the goo on the wounds- they will start to heal. Bottled aloe doesn't work half as well. The hubby and I are both diabetics.

Remove the junk food and replace with fruits and veggies. If he doesn't have junk food, he can't eat junk food.

Hit the link in my sig for more on cannabis and pain relief, neuroprotection and more! - Granny

 

[Guest]

I Love yall!!! Thank you so much for the information this will help greatly.

 

[guest]

I noted that Rick Simpson used more than just flowers. I read somewhere that close trim leaves tended to contain more CBD than the flowers.

There is a cooking thread here on IC. I got a recipe (sp?) for canna butter there. I used close trim to make canna butter for my cooking.

Please keep us updated.

 

[Guest]

I noted that Rick Simpson used more than just flowers. I read somewhere that close trim leaves tended to contain more CBD than the flowers.

There is a cooking thread here on IC. I got a recipe (sp?) for canna butter there. I used close trim to make canna butter for my cooking.

Please keep us updated.

Once I finish growing and cooking em, I'll let you all know how he's feeling after trying something with some cannabutter in or on it. Thank you guys/gals so much!

 

[Babbabud]

Hennessy saw you just as you were leaving chat today but didnt get to speak to you. Hope your father is doing better and things are starting to look up. I can feel your caring spirit and wish you both the very best. Hope you drop in chat again with good news on his recovery. Best of luck

 

[Guest]

Thanks Babbabud
They got the infection out of his blood but know he has no toes on that foot.
He's still not listening to everything the doctor tells him and I'm not really sure how to knock on a oldtimers head to get them to listen either. The swelling in his foot just needs to go down and he has to stay off it more for that to happen.
He should end up well in the end,he's a lucky old guy if you ask me. I still wanna see how cannabis helps so i'll have him eat some cookies for awhile and hopefully he see's there alot better then pharmacy drugs.

 

[texsativa]

One last note:
The best known side effect of marijuana is the munchies. This is a result of the marijuana lowering blood sugar.

I think the appetite stimulation comes from a signalling mechanism involving ghrelin, an appetite stimulating molecule.

I also want to add to the original poster, while cannabis may help with diabetes, it should not be a replacement to medications, only as a supplement.

 

[Germanator]

Type one diabetic here. I have used cannabis for years to stimulate appetite when I know I have to eat. It comes in real handy when I come down with a stomach virus, and need to stimulate an appetite.

I also find that it helps with my insomnia due to all the stories I have heard of diabetics passing on in their sleep. I remember going a few months last year due to an approaching drug test and my sleep was miserable. I was a completely different person... in a bad way.

Just can't see how people would argue that only terminally ill patients benefit from the drug... even on these boards!

Best of luck to your father, he has a tough battle ahead of him, and speaking from experience cannabis will help on many levels in living a full life.

Germ

 

[guest]

i used 100 units of insulin and 2000 units of metiformin.....gastric bypass and 1 mile bike rides and a year later no more insulin and blood pressure is norml....the appetite must go! sorry eating must be controlled and exercise as much as he can no more tv this is a battle. Lap band, gastric bypass. and ask about precose, it blocks suger and fats sour diesel marijuana for the day and an indica without the munchies....blue dot sometimes worked!



get the book volumetrics...its a guide on how to substitute foods that are better for diabetics

Thanks for posting. I'm eager to hear more from diabetics who use pot.
Do you ever eat pot or do you just smoke?

thanks

 

[guest]

Highly Promising Results for New GW Cannabinoid Treatments for Diabetes and Related Metabolic Disorders

22/01/2008


Preparations underway for commencement of Phase II trials in 2008

Porton Down, UK, 22 January 2008: GW Pharmaceuticals plc (AIM: GWP) announces that it has generated highly promising results in both pre-clinical pharmacology studies and a Phase I trial of a new potential cannabinoid treatment for type 2 diabetes and related metabolic disorders. This research is part of a programme being conducted by GW to evaluate selected cannabinoids in a range of therapeutic areas.

GW’s initial cannabinoid target in this field, delta-9-tetrahydrocannabivarin (THCV), has successfully completed extensive pre-clinical pharmacology studies and its first Phase I clinical trial.

The pre-clinical studies have yielded highly promising findings. Recent results in several models of diabetes show desirable effects on plasma insulin, leptin and adiponectin levels, hormones of particular relevance to the development and treatment of diabetes, especially in obese individuals. In addition, we have seen a reduction in total cholesterol with an increase in the proportion of HDL (good) cholesterol.

The recently completed Phase I trial was a randomised, double blind, placebo controlled, dose escalation, safety and tolerability study of single doses of THCV in twelve healthy volunteer subjects. This trial showed that the study medication was well tolerated at target therapeutic doses and demonstrated a satisfactory safety profile.

Following on from this first study, GW is now preparing for a Phase IIa multiple dose study in type 2 diabetic patients in 2008.

These recent results add to previous findings showing effects on body weight, body fat content, energy expenditure, food intake, and other obesity-related parameters.

Dr Stephen Wright, R&D Director of GW, said, “These new results confirm that GW’s proprietary plant-based cannabinoids have significant potential as treatments in this important branch of therapeutics. We are now ready to build upon the pre-clinical data, as well as the Phase I trial results, by entering Phase II proof of principle studies during 2008.”

Dr Geoffrey Guy, Chairman, said, ”This exciting research programme is a further example of the range of potential for GW’s cannabinoids as new medicines. We believe that our research in the field of metabolic disorders represents a significant opportunity for GW and that it has the potential to be an important new area for future collaboration with partners.”


http://production.investis.com/gwp/pressreleases/currentpress/2008-01-22a/

 

[pSi007]

He has diabetes and it's progressing up his left leg.
Would Bubba kush help him out any?

Well, most diabetes is caused from the pancreas`s production of too little insulin. insulin is needed by the red blood cells to absorb insulin which causes the cell to absorb protein and carbs, as well as some fats. without, acidosis occurs.

My guess is that diabetes has affected the heart witch causes fluid buildup in the extremities. I would not suggest any type of herb, even bubba kush. My suggestion would be to limit and regulate diet. Diet alone can treat nearly 100% of type 2 diabetes.

 

[guest]

Well, most diabetes is caused from the pancreas`s production of too little insulin. insulin is needed by the red blood cells to absorb insulin which causes the cell to absorb protein and carbs, as well as some fats. without, acidosis occurs.

My guess is that diabetes has affected the heart witch causes fluid buildup in the extremities. I would not suggest any type of herb, even bubba kush. My suggestion would be to limit and regulate diet. Diet alone can treat nearly 100% of type 2 diabetes.

Glad to see the quality of your post.

Have you seen the Rick Simpson story yet?

 

[texsativa]

Well, most diabetes is caused from the pancreas`s production of too little insulin. insulin is needed by the red blood cells to absorb insulin which causes the cell to absorb protein and carbs, as well as some fats. without, acidosis occurs.

My guess is that diabetes has affected the heart witch causes fluid buildup in the extremities. I would not suggest any type of herb, even bubba kush. My suggestion would be to limit and regulate diet. Diet alone can treat nearly 100% of type 2 diabetes.

Insulin is needed by the red blood cells to absorb insulin? I think you mean insulin is needed by muscle and fat cells in order to absorb glucose.

Red blood cells have GLUT1 glucose transporters that do not need insulin for glucose entry into the cell. On the other hand, skeletal muscles have GLUT4 glucose transporters which need activation by insulin in order to allow entry of glucose into the cell. Without insulin, glucose can not enter into the muscle cells, but can enter the red blood cells. The body essentially starves, and starts burning fat to stay alive. The fat burning leads to production of ketone bodies, which leads to the lactic acidosis.

The diet is important in TypeII diabetics. The body is essentially unresponsive to insulin. It's being produced, just the body does not respond to it (until the pancreas just gives out after producing so much for so long). In typeI, the pancreas doesn't produce any insulin.

But one bad thing about diabetes, among other things, they can develop neural problems in extremities, predisposing to trauma and infections (osteomyelitis).

 

[pSi007]

Insulin is needed by the red blood cells to absorb insulin? I think you mean insulin is needed by muscle and fat cells in order to absorb glucose.

Red blood cells have GLUT1 glucose transporters that do not need insulin for glucose entry into the cell.

hahahhaa... u ass... u said the right thing so i`m not whilling to transpire. u may be the physician, but i am a paramedic, i saves lives as i see them, then i advocate relief to others means, mainly MDs. so i`m not abondonting a patient. i`m mearly trying to state physiological means. The more you post, Tex, the less i feel i`m needed... /cry..


ps,all blood cells need insulin to produce energy. you should know that.