Molasses
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Technically the molasses provides nutrients (carbohydrates specifically) to the microbes in the soil which feed the roots of the plants. Molasses also provides, like seaweed products, a wide range of micro-nutrients.vindiesel said:
Molasses does not, by any stretch of the imagination, effect any specific taste in the buds. If that were true then one could expect use honey as a 'sweetner' (LOL) and get a different taste. Or maple syrup. Or brown sugar. You get the idea.
Molasses can, used properly, maximize all a plant's potential with regard to aroma, taste, vigor, effect, etc. But if it's not there then no amount of molasses is going to change that.
Not to worry though, if this board is like most other cannabis-related boards around the web, someone will be along soon enough to announce that 'molasses made my buds sweet. You can really taste the molasses in the smoke' - uh huh.
Even an idiot like Jorge (formerly 'George') Cervantes gets it wrong in his books & articles. That's what happens when your writing career for the past 5 years is little more that cutting & pasting gibberish that you read over at 'High Times Magazine'
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No it feeds the microherd, much like root exudase feeds them.
When you feed the microherd rou boost their numbers and keep them healthy, more microbed munching on organic ferts means more ferts being supplied to the plant, I'm simplifying but that's the general idea.
Same thing for compost tea, we use it to introduce a know mix of microbes to the soil to boost soil activity except with molasses your feeding the existing colony and boosting their health and numbers.
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When you feed the microherd rou boost their numbers and keep them healthy, more microbed munching on organic ferts means more ferts being supplied to the plant, I'm simplifying but that's the general idea.
Same thing for compost tea, we use it to introduce a know mix of microbes to the soil to boost soil activity except with molasses your feeding the existing colony and boosting their health and numbers.
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yeknomssa
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Clackamas Coot said:
you know, when i went to the feed store, that's the first stuff the lady took me to. i wasn't thinking about it at the time, but that stuff would be perfect for me, as i'm lazy about feeding my plants. if at all possible i like to just mix it into the soil from the get go (though if necessary i feed supplementaly). anyway, thanks for the measurement there, as i wasn't sure how it compared to the other nutrients i mix in
Yeknomssayeknomssa said:
You're welcome. That's the amount I start with and if I feel I need to add some more I just sprinkle a 1/4 or so on top of the soil and then water as usual. Same deal with kelp meal if you're 'lazy' (your term - not mine! LOL).
Glad the suggestion will work out for you.
Cheers!
yeknomssa
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Clackamas Coot said:
haha i don't mind being called lazy when it comes to nutes. less chance for me to mess it up too. i like to think the plants will take what they need when they need it. But i couldn't find kelp meal around where i live (same with jersysande[sp?]). maybe i looked at the wrong stores, but it doesn't seem to be a common product heh. i just figured i'd supplement with the molasses that i have and some Neptune's harvest (if i can find it
) to compensate. my mix has been sitting for about a week and a half, and my seeds should come above ground any day now. well one did, see the two plants in one seed thread in micro grow. so it seems like everything plant wise is coming together nicely this time ,still gotta finish a couple things on the box though.thanks again for the help, i'm new to organics, but the more i do with it, the more i like it
I wouldn't worry too much about the greensand. I've never quite understood why indoor growers would bother to use it since it takes 3 to 4 years to break down.
You're far better off to use glacial rock dust which is cheap, cheap, cheap! I pay $10.50 for 50 lbs. and it's the 'Gaia Green' brand out of Canada. Fantastic stuff.
You can learn more about using rock dusts here - http://remineralize.org/joomla/
Places to find kelp meal are farm stores because farmers and gardeners use it to build up their soils. It's also used as a nutrient boost for livestock, poultry, etc. That's where I buy it anyway - I pay $55.00 for 50 lbs. and it's an excellent product out of Nova Scotia, Canada. The price did go up a couple bucks recently because of diesel fuel price increases.
You'd be amazed at how many ingredients that organic growers can find at feed/farm stores and be able to avoid the criminals who run the hydro-stores.
We've got at least 12 of these operations in our area and they're all whores - they'd screw a snake if someone would just hold its head.
You're far better off to use glacial rock dust which is cheap, cheap, cheap! I pay $10.50 for 50 lbs. and it's the 'Gaia Green' brand out of Canada. Fantastic stuff.
You can learn more about using rock dusts here - http://remineralize.org/joomla/
Places to find kelp meal are farm stores because farmers and gardeners use it to build up their soils. It's also used as a nutrient boost for livestock, poultry, etc. That's where I buy it anyway - I pay $55.00 for 50 lbs. and it's an excellent product out of Nova Scotia, Canada. The price did go up a couple bucks recently because of diesel fuel price increases.
You'd be amazed at how many ingredients that organic growers can find at feed/farm stores and be able to avoid the criminals who run the hydro-stores.
We've got at least 12 of these operations in our area and they're all whores - they'd screw a snake if someone would just hold its head.
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Love the discussion.
My understanding of greensand is that breaks down completely over the course of several years, but that it is instantly available to plants in small amounts, and consistently so throughout the several years it takes to break down.
It certainly isn't crucial to an indoor grow, but it does have benefits, especially for those of us who don't throw out our soil between crops.
Clackamas Coot said:
My understanding of greensand is that breaks down completely over the course of several years, but that it is instantly available to plants in small amounts, and consistently so throughout the several years it takes to break down.
It certainly isn't crucial to an indoor grow, but it does have benefits, especially for those of us who don't throw out our soil between crops.
TriCrystalz
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Everyones saying "1 TBSP a gallon"
I only have 7 plants who drink 7-8oz every 3 days. How much should I use for say 1 liter?
I only have 7 plants who drink 7-8oz every 3 days. How much should I use for say 1 liter?
skunktoker
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ABOUT 3/4 TEASPOON SHOULD BE FINE PER LITER ........
SKUNKTOKER...
SKUNKTOKER...
hbstoner
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hey guys...someone here turned me onto the idea of ebay having molasses for sale and sure enough, here's the link. it's way cheaper than my local grocery even with shipping added to it. i sent notes asking the makers/sellers what the potassium percentage is in the products that don't have ingredients listed (only one has it and it's 4%)...i'll get back to y'all as soon as i have answers. we want the highest Potassium content we can find.
http://home.shop.ebay.com/items/Ins...nZ1QQ_sacatZ159888QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em282
http://home.shop.ebay.com/items/Ins...nZ1QQ_sacatZ159888QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em282
grimcreeper
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You can use more than a teaspoon per gallon. I use more, even on three week old seedlings. It depends on how sensitive your plant is to burn. Mandalas may not like it but a heavy feeding inbred indica will suck that stuff up. It's a fertilizer source as well. It has varying degrees of nitrogen and potassium in it.
I use Brer Rabbit unsulphered and I have yet to see burn, even with what would be considered heavy dosing. Your mileage may vary.
I use Brer Rabbit unsulphered and I have yet to see burn, even with what would be considered heavy dosing. Your mileage may vary.
