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$1 bags of 1 cubic ft Steer Manure at Lowes
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sophisto
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Mr Celsius said:
If it sucks, it goes into landscaping, I have no losses to be had.
Except for your landscaping....Funny how most people like organic pot but are not the least bit interested in it's benefits for everything else. Why put shitty shit into your landscaping when you can put good shit in...
Dollar a bag they most certainly were steers unfortunately jacked up on hormones, grazing on herbicides and pesticide grains and grasses....Chem poop...
Organic, yes poo is organic but what made the poop?? And how is it going to effect the soil you apply it too....
Not trying to be disrespectful, just giving my opinion.
Mr. C- that manure is probably fine, IMO. But I will mention to folks to be sure you try to source your manure locally for free before you decide you have to spend money on it. Depends on your area where you might want to look first, but in just about any town or city anywhere, a very good bet is the local fairgrounds. They usually have a manure compost heap that they cart off like once a year. Well-composted and usually from animals that have been babied by their owners, fed natural foods, hormones avoided in most cases, etc.
I had some friends deliver 2.5 tons of manure from the fairgrounds about a month ago... gave my buddies $20 and called it good.
I had some friends deliver 2.5 tons of manure from the fairgrounds about a month ago... gave my buddies $20 and called it good.
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JackTheGrower
Thought to mention that salt buildup is a concern with steer manure.
both salt lick salt and urea salts..
Cow is better than pen kept steer.
http://www.plantea.com/manure.htm
both salt lick salt and urea salts..
Cow is better than pen kept steer.
http://www.plantea.com/manure.htm
sophisto said:
atleats its partial organic. fully organic lawns are expensive and dont look much different then lawns stuffed with miracle grow. tap water isnt very organic last i checked, no one even thinks of watering there garden with RO..
come one what kind of fool are you making yourself to be?
i know its the 'organic forum' but no one is organic fully in there yards.
DIGITALHIPPY said:
I try...
A truly organic lawn growing on a healthy soil food web is going to look like a synthetically fed lawn... until the moment that it is drought-stressed, deprived of normal feeding, or hit with fungal infection of some kind. Then the resilience of the soil food web becomes very apparent.
texas grass
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ive used their bags of manure for over 6 months now with good results. i personally like manures in my soil mixes to help build the soil and bring added microbes to my mixture
just remember cows eat weeds. just because they got pooped out does'nt mean you won't get weeds in your grow. if you just used wormcastings from wal-mart and manure you would have an explosive grow. if you have to use ferts. mens mega-max from gnc. one tablet ground up in a gallon of dist.water. your plants will go nuts. i use one gal. of fortified water every six gallons. i take one a day and the plants get one a week. 
LavenderCowboy
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The cheap sh** is just what it is, cheap sh**....It comes from feedlots in the west and is worthless for MJ....I only want the best for my babies...anything else is a waste....Never use manure from a growing animal...all the nutrients have been extracted by the animal....Use manure that is fed for mantinance puposes, like dairy cows and things like that....LC
HEY LAVENDER
HEY LAVENDER
I read your post and the differance in digestion of dairy cows and slaughter cows is the same. There is no maintenance feeding. There is only feeding, and they are given all the ground corn,alfalfa,and hay they can eat. The nutriants are not depleted from the manure as you have stated. Alot of animals in times of drought will eat nothing but manure for nutriants until the grass grows out from the rains. The only adverse affect on manure is being to dry. That does more harm to the micro life that is created in digestion than anything else. The whole point of organic soil is to have healthy micro life that are sustaining the plant instead of chemical fertalizers. My intensions are not to piss on your parade but to pass on valid information. I have believed many things till I was shown otherwise. I was raised on lived on and run my own horse ranch. Several of my friends have agriculter,dairy and herford and angus ranch's. Manure is something I have 30 years of experiance in.....unfortunatly! LOL
ps. the dung loving mushroom grows only on or under a pile of manure. Any that you see on or under are safe to eat. ENJOR THE RIDE!!!
HEY LAVENDER
I read your post and the differance in digestion of dairy cows and slaughter cows is the same. There is no maintenance feeding. There is only feeding, and they are given all the ground corn,alfalfa,and hay they can eat. The nutriants are not depleted from the manure as you have stated. Alot of animals in times of drought will eat nothing but manure for nutriants until the grass grows out from the rains. The only adverse affect on manure is being to dry. That does more harm to the micro life that is created in digestion than anything else. The whole point of organic soil is to have healthy micro life that are sustaining the plant instead of chemical fertalizers. My intensions are not to piss on your parade but to pass on valid information. I have believed many things till I was shown otherwise. I was raised on lived on and run my own horse ranch. Several of my friends have agriculter,dairy and herford and angus ranch's. Manure is something I have 30 years of experiance in.....unfortunatly! LOL
ps. the dung loving mushroom grows only on or under a pile of manure. Any that you see on or under are safe to eat. ENJOR THE RIDE!!!
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EatShitake
I've used it in my 'regular' garden and landscaping for a couple years now with nothing but positive results. My tomato patch actually produced some mycellial fruits 
but I was too chicken to try those out.
I remember reading a while back that steer manure wasn't the best amendment for mj plants and I just can't remember the reasons discussed, so I haven't used it in my soil mix yet. That, and I can get OMRI listed worm poo from my local nursery for about 8 bucks per cf, and it just plain smells better.
but I was too chicken to try those out.I remember reading a while back that steer manure wasn't the best amendment for mj plants and I just can't remember the reasons discussed, so I haven't used it in my soil mix yet. That, and I can get OMRI listed worm poo from my local nursery for about 8 bucks per cf, and it just plain smells better.
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EatShitake
Mr Celsius said:
Right on, Mr. C. I went to the Lowes by my workplace today on my lunch break. The same bags of Cow Poo that I paid a buck or more for last year now cost.....$.59 per ft^3! I think I'll plant an extra salsa garden patch this season over the weekend!
LavenderCowboy
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Suit yourself....no problem with me....But you ain't gonna tell me that the nutrient requirment for a young calf ain't different than a 10 yr old cow....don't even go there with me...
farmerlion,
Older cows don't require the growth nutrients that feedlot steers do.....They are not the same.....The digestive tracks work the same, but the same thing don't go into the feed...Most broodcows are maintained on grass/hay....You take a broodcow and put good feed in her and then put that same feed in a feedlot steer, then check out the nutrients in the manure and the broodcow will show more nutrients in it because her body don't require the nutirents to "grow" that a feedlot steer does....See what I mean...LC
farmerlion,
Older cows don't require the growth nutrients that feedlot steers do.....They are not the same.....The digestive tracks work the same, but the same thing don't go into the feed...Most broodcows are maintained on grass/hay....You take a broodcow and put good feed in her and then put that same feed in a feedlot steer, then check out the nutrients in the manure and the broodcow will show more nutrients in it because her body don't require the nutirents to "grow" that a feedlot steer does....See what I mean...LC
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Lavender
Lavender
We don't have feed lots in nort dakota. We have vast expanses of open prarie. I have never worked at or seen what they feed. Our grasses are good enough for all aged cattle. calves are suckled for the first couple months they don't eat grass. I've never seen calves at a feed lot only cows gaining weight for slaughter. I know your the expert, I just do it for a living! P.S There are things that are better for soil. you speak of manure if it is bad for soil.
Lavender
We don't have feed lots in nort dakota. We have vast expanses of open prarie. I have never worked at or seen what they feed. Our grasses are good enough for all aged cattle. calves are suckled for the first couple months they don't eat grass. I've never seen calves at a feed lot only cows gaining weight for slaughter. I know your the expert, I just do it for a living!
P.S There are things that are better for soil. you speak of manure if it is bad for soil.
