my can is rather small and some fan leaves are starting to grow out to large so im gona cur them off and root the branch into the pot seems like it be a good idea more root mass more bud? right i read something about lst and rooting the stem then cuitting it for like bigger clones so im gona try this // what do u think?
cutting fan leaves and rooting the branch
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Uh No! I dont think thatll work.
Dude, you gotta check into these things..
Ladies get them..
..and we use them when writing words together to separate ideas and stuff..
it's called a PERIOD.
Seriously man, your message is really hard to decipher and I think nobody has a clear idea what you're trying to do here.
Ladies get them..
..and we use them when writing words together to separate ideas and stuff..
it's called a PERIOD.
Seriously man, your message is really hard to decipher and I think nobody has a clear idea what you're trying to do here.
The leaf stem will root if you treat it like any other clone........but it just stays a leaf.
Or are you just talking about trimming and taking clones?
You need a growth tip to get a clone thats going to grow into a plant.
Or are you just talking about trimming and taking clones?
You need a growth tip to get a clone thats going to grow into a plant.
you have to get a node in there for it to be successful, so you need to get below that elbow where the stem reaches the main, depending on how bushy your plant is, that could be a lot of places
This thread will explain it all
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=46778
This thread will explain it all
http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=46778
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ill help ya out here. i think...
hes going to cut off the tip of a lower branch then bend it down into the soil in hopes more roots will grow out of it?
serpintine layering or something?
hes going to cut off the tip of a lower branch then bend it down into the soil in hopes more roots will grow out of it?
serpintine layering or something?
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Who knows... I think the two things that everyone is thinking your probably trying (at least I think your trying to take a single big branch thats around a foot tall and rip a couple leaves off and try to root it) aren't going to work. The best way to reproduce a plant other than a seed is to simply clone. If you cut a big 8 node branch and try to root it, there will not be enough nutrient and water uptake to supply the leaves; it will die. If you try to plant a 5 fingered single fan leaf, that would not work either. Taking an entire branch would not work as well as the picture I posted before. It would be wilting in about 24 hours, dead in 2 days.
Taking the top of a plant works.
Taking an entire big branch, would work maybe burying it.
Bending a plant into the soil, works. You can grow more direct roots for an outdoor plant by doing this. Before you do it though, remember it makes it more likely to get pests/mold (indoors and out).
Cutting an entire branch off a plant and just sticking it in the ground, never going to work fast enough to beat traditional cloning. A small growth shoot is all that is needed. Its better to cut that one branch above every node so that you have a tiny 2 inch stem to plug into something. Then you just use one or two fan leaves to supply the water and nutes just like a regular clone. I have seen people use this method with success on other sites.
Taking the top of a plant works.
Taking an entire big branch, would work maybe burying it.
Bending a plant into the soil, works. You can grow more direct roots for an outdoor plant by doing this. Before you do it though, remember it makes it more likely to get pests/mold (indoors and out).
Cutting an entire branch off a plant and just sticking it in the ground, never going to work fast enough to beat traditional cloning. A small growth shoot is all that is needed. Its better to cut that one branch above every node so that you have a tiny 2 inch stem to plug into something. Then you just use one or two fan leaves to supply the water and nutes just like a regular clone. I have seen people use this method with success on other sites.
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ok, i think i get what you're trying to say. punctuation and good spelling would help you get an answer quicker though.
You're most likely just going to kill off that section of the plant if you take a branch, remove the leaves, then bend it down and stick the tip in to the soil.
However, if you're conditions are just right, you might be able to scrape a little of the outer layer off a few inches of one side of the branch, coat it with rooting hormone, and tie it down so that the side of the branch is laying in the soil. This is only going to work if your conditions are just right though. Too much moisture and you'll get a rotted stem and that branch will die off, possibly sickening the rest of the plant in the process. Too little moisture, and the branch is going to die because you've exposed the xylem and phloem and they'll dry out quickly.
If you need to picture it, your branch will look almost U shaped, with one end of the U attached to the main stem, the bottom part of the U about a 1/2" into the soil, and the other end of the U as your new growth tip reaching for the light. If you don't tie down or weight the bottom of the U, its just going to pull up out of the soil. You could use a garden stake or tent stake to hold it down possibly. I'd think cloning gel would work better than powder in this situation. also think of watering with a mixture with rooting hormone in it (such as hormex).
The effort of this is more than likely going to outweigh the return. If you can spare the plant though, it couldn't hurt to try.
It should also be noted that some strains will have more woody stems and some softer stems. Just like cloning, a slightly softer stem would be good for this type of process IMO.
You're most likely just going to kill off that section of the plant if you take a branch, remove the leaves, then bend it down and stick the tip in to the soil.
However, if you're conditions are just right, you might be able to scrape a little of the outer layer off a few inches of one side of the branch, coat it with rooting hormone, and tie it down so that the side of the branch is laying in the soil. This is only going to work if your conditions are just right though. Too much moisture and you'll get a rotted stem and that branch will die off, possibly sickening the rest of the plant in the process. Too little moisture, and the branch is going to die because you've exposed the xylem and phloem and they'll dry out quickly.
If you need to picture it, your branch will look almost U shaped, with one end of the U attached to the main stem, the bottom part of the U about a 1/2" into the soil, and the other end of the U as your new growth tip reaching for the light. If you don't tie down or weight the bottom of the U, its just going to pull up out of the soil. You could use a garden stake or tent stake to hold it down possibly. I'd think cloning gel would work better than powder in this situation. also think of watering with a mixture with rooting hormone in it (such as hormex).
The effort of this is more than likely going to outweigh the return. If you can spare the plant though, it couldn't hurt to try.
It should also be noted that some strains will have more woody stems and some softer stems. Just like cloning, a slightly softer stem would be good for this type of process IMO.
ok wow so far every one has been wrong. lol . what i am saying is that i am going to cut the leaf part of of the lower branch say this is a branch --------- ok and this is the brand with a leaf -----------m i want to cut the branch right after the leaf so. --------- m. then i want to put the branch into the soil with some rooting hormone like u would do with a clone
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Your words, including "branch", "leaf", and "stem" aren't at all helpful.
know what I mean?
know what I mean?
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No it won't work. The leaf stem of that fan leaf would not root, it would shrivel up and die. There wouldn't be time for it to grow roots. The primary function of the sunleaves is also to get sun, its better to make roots at connections where new growth is occuring at the nodes of the branches.
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