truth behind ghetto birds

[slohemian]

so im wondering... the helicopters are what busts outdoor guerilla grows but how do they do it? Is it simply sight from the pilot, or are special sensors equpipped to the cameras?

All i know is that usually you see consistent fields of pot getting busted by the copters, would a planting scheme of 1 plant every 500 yards in a thinly wooded area be safe? Would a copter even be able to see the plant?

 

[Sauron The Blue]

the bigger the grow the more water you need.
the more water you need the bigger the reservoir.
when the air cools faster than the water the res looks like glowing beacon at night through flir. Also the drip lines can hold water in them and show up fairly easy, but the amount of time it takes to cool a half inch line vs a 100 gallons is considerable. so the window of opportunity is much smaller for seeing the lines vs the res.

 

[Mr Celsius]

Not to mention that FLIR (forward looking infrared) can see that you've dug holes in the ground or are using pots. The tilled soil will have a different temp then the surrounding soil.

Also they just see them from the sky. I mean, imagine, you work for CAMP. You spend 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, with binoculars looking for pot, you're probably pretty good at spotting it.

 

[bounty29]

Small plots of a few plants at most seem like it would be a lot easier to get away with. Don't put all your eggs in one basket!

I think I'm gonna try to find four or five spots for this summer, and just put a couple clones at each one. That way, even if half my sites are compromised, I'll still have a good harvest at the end of the summer!

 

[RudolfTheRed]

'fuck the ghetto bird' -- ice cube

 

[Germanator]

Maybe inconsistent potting pattern would throw off someone looking through FLIR? Something for thought, not planting in straight lines or within close proximity to one another...

 

[Woody Creek]

they got big fish to fry in cali. if you under 100 sq. feet on every plot,bet you'd be safe.

had a bro who had 110,000 acres in cazadero. had 5-7 plots that each had 20-30 plants. not counting the two 12'x12' patches in his from yard. his landlord has a shady past with biker gangs, so they scan all of the property for mass grows and meth labs evry year. last year they spent 4-6 hours flying just on his property. never saw the fuzz on land.

Take the biggest grow you've ever seen on IC and times it by ten...you still don't have the biggest farms in cali.

got another bro who's got more land than that further north. has 70-100 mexians living there all summer. enough said. fuck your patch, it's cool in cali.

 

[Mr.Pyrex]

iregular plant patterns, trails, garbage, cut down trees, all those they look for

 

[Hindu Killer]

Yeah I think every one just needs to plant more plants per spot than ever befor....Im sure surpirsed at some of these grows. Im trying it this year.....good sized patches.

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

The copters flew directly over every patch I grew in 2007, with no problems for me.

Despite the hype about FLIR, it is usually only used for investigating indoor grows, most outdoor plots are found with the naked eye by trained observers.

The trick is to blend your plots into the native vegetation, and to spred them as far apart as you can. A 6' tall plant growing in a open field is a no-no, as is huge concentrations of plants, period, unless you like to gamble.

 

[shiggs]

I have my plot mixed in with cedar/juniper trees. I run 20-30 plants and constantly have the SO flying over. It's never been a problem. I think I might step it up to 40 plants this year.

 

[Guest]

Hey slohemian,

In my area, and its very heavily survielled from the air, I know for a fact that they only use sight. This week in an area paper, UNITE, one of the eradication agencies here, reported that it had reicieved a grant that would allow it to purchase a computer system that will photograph a grid area, and then the computer hunts for the plants, pixel x pixil. Federal eradication teams depend currently on site alone.

They havent been able to see one plant as of now, regardless of the plant size. That may change with the computer grid scan. You might read the story, a federal team leader being interviewed in the Lexington Herald Newspaper. ( Lex. Ky)Its probably on the web. It was a week ago last sunday.

sb

 

[hamstring]

Good to see you BC.

So whats the plan for this year? Are you going to try and put some seeds out and get away from anything inside?

Glad to see you back!

 

[slohemian]

Hey slohemian,

In my area, and its very heavily survielled from the air, I know for a fact that they only use sight. This week in an area paper, UNITE, one of the eradication agencies here, reported that it had reicieved a grant that would allow it to purchase a computer system that will photograph a grid area, and then the computer hunts for the plants, pixel x pixil. Federal eradication teams depend currently on site alone.

They havent been able to see one plant as of now, regardless of the plant size. That may change with the computer grid scan. You might read the story, a federal team leader being interviewed in the Lexington Herald Newspaper. ( Lex. Ky)Its probably on the web. It was a week ago last sunday.

sb

Thats scary, that just shows how desperate they are to rid such a beautiful plant. Fuck the clueless feds.

 

[slohemian]

So for my outdoor i wanna dig out holes and put growbags full of my soil mix. Any bag recomendations? Any thoughts on how many holes i should cut in the bottom?

 

[Guest]

Check my gallery........

All done with daily fly overs,never spotted
or i wouldn't be here posting hahahahaha!!!!
GO FRIGGEN FOR IT,and blend you plants to other green
THATS IT!

 

[Fast_Pine]

Do the guys in the chopper drop down, and just start choppin, or is the chopper just for getting coordinates for a ground crew to come in..

Theres some large grows done in some really remote areas..

I figure that if the guys in the chopper had to do the actual cutting, that would waste/cost tons of/in expensive chopper fuel...

How does it traditionaly work?

 

[Chitownstoner]

God damn i hate choppers. I was just touring my spot and the helicopter flew over 4 times within a half hour. I would hit the deck under some heavy wooded area until it flew over. I was in the middle of a field with no trees or anything to hide under. I heard the chopper coming and i had to sprint 3 mins right into rabbit shit and thorn bushes.
I am going to plant 20 of my plants with very tall grass. And 50ft above me are power lines. They didn't go over and even by any of the power lines.

 

[BACKCOUNTRY]

It depends on your area Fast pine, in Hawaii alot of the irradication is done by dropping guys from copters, especially in remote areas. I have also heard of this happening in Oklahoma, but for the most part I think the copters just call the location to home base and land units take care of the dirty work, at least thats how they do it here.

 

[HookaHittaH]

I have a horror story about the G - Bird from last years grow season. My uncle and I were at our grow spot in prolly june or july, wich is also a good fishing spot. There are two spots that we fish. One being a lot closer to our patch. Luckily we were fishing this other spot that was about 200- 300 yards away from our plants. However suddenly a G - Bird started flying over us where we were just fishing at. It kept circling us and was flying very low. Then you could tell they were either watching us or trying to take pics of us cus they would turn the helicopter at an angle so their window was facing us. I personally think they were taking pics of us. The weird thing is they kept doing the same thing for a solid hour to an hour and a half. then they left for awhile, we think they went to refuel cus they were flying over us for so long. Then they were back again for awhile. during this whole ordeal we just kept acting normal and like we were fishing. no time did we go towards our grow or do anything suspicious. we think they were patrolling hard that weekend looking for grows. We still waited till dark before leaving to make sure there were no cops waiting for us as we drove out of our spot. it was a hair raising experience to say the least.