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Hemp is too beneficial to the masses and cannot be exploited with greed, unless it's illegal.
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Indica-420
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Hempsters Stitch in the mall what a nice store 
ZoSo
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gramsci.antonio said:
Lol that's a damn good quote right there. But that's just the way I think.
But yeah hemp is a great product. It pathetic that it's illegal. So useful, so versatile, so damn strong!
Man.... The more I think about what's wrong with this country, the more depressed I get. We need to start fresh again. Ok end rant.
asa42
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i'm stuck on the better plant thing. human knowledge keeps gettin wiped clean then relearned. seems presumptious we know better stuff now, more like can mold polymers better now. it actually sounds like a statement dupont would use,imo.gramsci.antonio said:
glad to see some of us are well informed & others learnin. many have tried hard to keep truths hidden, especially w/herb.
Back to the question. Why? Because it lasts. What doesn't wear out needs no replacement. Many of us went through the hand me down stage as kids. Not much lasted to the third kid or beyond. There are stories of hemp clothing being handed down through generations. Where's the money in that?
gramsci.antonio said:
I think you might want to educate yourself a bit more about the thousands and thousands of uses for the hemp plant. Biofuel is just one of them. The books can also explain why hemp is not used to it's full potential. They can't patent a plant.
Suggested reading:
The Emperor Wears No Clothes by Jack Herer
The Great Book of Hemp by Rowan Robinson
Puffin13 said:
The problem while reading a propagandistic book is a second critic view.
70 years ago the ban of hemp was really a bad move, since industry wasn't that developed.
But nowdays we can use other plants, in a more environment-respectful manner.
If i have to choose a source of fiber for dress and wires i would use plants for the family of Corchorus because they are very cheap (less water, less nutrients, less soil), or Urtica (very resistant to adverse environment condition) or the Linum usitatissimum for the quality of the end products (being still more environment-respectful than hemp).
If i have to choose a source for essential oil i would go thousand of times for soy.
If i have to choose a source for biofuel i would go for Beta Vulgaris or an OGM plant.
If i have to choose a nutrition source i would go for rice and lentils (leguminacee in general).
Hemp has a lot of use, if i would have to be dropped on a desert island i would take 10 seeds of cannabis with me, bcuz i can do many thing.
But in the real world there are better plants.
The war for hemp is right, i agree. But we have to stay down to earth and understand that hemp is just a trojan horse for our fight for recreational cannabis.
Just as like MMJ.
My english is quite poor, feel free to correct my grammar, so i'll improve my english.
FreezerBoy said:
Cotton last way more.
The problem is the industrial process, which intentionally provokes premature degradation of materials in order to stimulate a higher flow of goods.
If my dresses will last forever, i will be less stimulated to buy more dresses.
But it's not hemp or cotton. It's the industrial process.
WoW maannnn
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your english is fine!
not sure abouit cotton, i dont think the fibers have near the strength.
but Hemp is also so versitile and vigorous.
yes there is no free energy on a galactic scale, but if you could grow your world, and then grow another next year without sending miners into the earth it is close to free on our scale, no?
still love this subject.
not sure abouit cotton, i dont think the fibers have near the strength.
but Hemp is also so versitile and vigorous.
yes there is no free energy on a galactic scale, but if you could grow your world, and then grow another next year without sending miners into the earth it is close to free on our scale, no?
still love this subject.
WoW maannnn
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and planed obsolecence leads to consumerism that eats itself.
and why cant we build the best product that lasts vs filling up landfills with refrigerators and printer cartridges...
and why cant we build the best product that lasts vs filling up landfills with refrigerators and printer cartridges...
WoW maannnn said:
Yeah hemp has a great toleration of mechanical stress, but it tends to get rougher. Cotton will shred easier under m. stress but will stay smoother for a longer period of time.
If you have ever dressed with hemp, you'll know that hemp gives itch to the skin if the dress is old enough.
Obviously you can make hemp dresses that will stay smooth, but it requires a lot of effort more (production and low quality fiber wasted).
Instead the cotton will get thinner over time, that isn't such a big deal.
ogm plant?
you mean a gmo-genettically modified organism?
i dont even want to get started on how thats horrible and takes a lot more energy to produce as well
and hemp still has a better nutritional value than rice or lentils
you mean a gmo-genettically modified organism?
i dont even want to get started on how thats horrible and takes a lot more energy to produce as well
and hemp still has a better nutritional value than rice or lentils
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Sheriff Bart said:
Yeah sorry, OGM is italian.
Anyhow that's true, genetically modify a plant will take a lot of effort for the first seed.
Then you'll have a very good specimen to spread around.
Although it's true that GMO MAY be dangerous, as like any other human tool, they are a quite powerful resource, very useful to face the challenge of a world in continuous demographic expansion.
Simply not true.
According to those sources:
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/cgi-bin/list_nut_edit.pl
http://www.wcranchohemp.com/info.php
Hemp has more calories and fats, that's true. But lentils are very low on fat and very high on proteins and carbo, which are a way more desiderable source of calories than fats.
Moreover the W/calories ratio (energy spent in growing/processing on energy made aviable to us) is WAY better for lentils than for hemp.
I would like to hear other people opinion about what i wrote
lol well i've posted the links and etc. various times here before but so far gmo foods have been proven NOT SAFE TO EAT!!!!!!!
maybe to use things from
but not to eat!
and your link abotu the nutrtional value didnt work
i know soy has a lot of protein but after it hemp is the best source
not only that but hemp has only omega fatty acids and stuff
no bad fats!
that and it has all essential amino acids necessary for humans
if they had more vitamins and minerals you could almost live of the shit
and i guess i look at things more in terms of straight from the ground minimal processing
'the problems plain to see
too much technology'
one of the biggest problems today in healthy is trans fats
transfats replace omega fatty acids in the cell walls and etc (the cell wall is the phospholipid bi-layer) and they loose mobility and become more rigid. not only that but transfats end up blocking and interfering with loads of receptors and transport proteins, so trans fats basically fuck everything up. omegas, on the other hand, help the cells. not only that but many foods induce inflammation and the food we consume nowadays generally is jsut absofuckinglutely terrible and i wont bother to get into that cause its a bit off topic
and yes there are omegas elsewhere, but where else can you get all the proteins you need along with the omegas, and what other plant can you naturally grow across the globe no problem?
maybe to use things from
but not to eat!
and your link abotu the nutrtional value didnt work
i know soy has a lot of protein but after it hemp is the best source
not only that but hemp has only omega fatty acids and stuff
no bad fats!
that and it has all essential amino acids necessary for humans
if they had more vitamins and minerals you could almost live of the shit
and i guess i look at things more in terms of straight from the ground minimal processing
'the problems plain to see
too much technology'
one of the biggest problems today in healthy is trans fats
transfats replace omega fatty acids in the cell walls and etc (the cell wall is the phospholipid bi-layer) and they loose mobility and become more rigid. not only that but transfats end up blocking and interfering with loads of receptors and transport proteins, so trans fats basically fuck everything up. omegas, on the other hand, help the cells. not only that but many foods induce inflammation and the food we consume nowadays generally is jsut absofuckinglutely terrible and i wont bother to get into that cause its a bit off topic
and yes there are omegas elsewhere, but where else can you get all the proteins you need along with the omegas, and what other plant can you naturally grow across the globe no problem?
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Sheriff Bart said:
i would be glad to see them again
the second work, for the first one simply search lentils (not soy) on usda food database (the website to which the link i posted belong to)
Why? please quote
the best among the fats is a worse source of calories than the worst among proteins
If we produce in a laboratory a snack with all the needed nutrition things in the correct ratio, still it wouldn't be good since human being need variety.
They already did it, and they found out that african children died like insects.
You are saying what i say: too many fats in modern diets.
Like in hemp oil.
gmo - http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=67544
from your own links on hemp:
and the USDA National Nutrient Database for Standard Reference (where the lentils nutriotion info comes from) doesnt even list hemp or cannabis!
and im not talkign abotu calories
those are had very easily from other sources (eat a freakin potatoe)
im talking about making healthy fucking living cells and making the body work as it was meant to!
basically every mitochondrion in every living thing is the same
where they mitochondrion evolved was in a soup saturated with nutrients
thats how they are meant to function! saturated in nutrients!
i think were are arguing some of the same stuff here but in diff ways, we gotta stay healthy, and there are many ways, im jsut looking at the easiest
and yes, i said almost live off it
i knwo we need variety, i am jsut sayign that hemp covers the protein bases no problem and thats a major downfall in peoples diets, (esp vegetarians diets!) not gettin all the proteins necessary
and omega fatty acids in the right amounts dont produce the negative effects that trans and saturated fats do! thats what i am talking about, and about how cells work better with omega fatty acids....
from your own links on hemp:
Shelled hempseed is a great source of the essential fatty acids Omega-3 Linolenic Acid and Omega-6 Linoleic Acid, as well as the hard-to-get Gamma-Linoleic Acid. While most foods have little if any, Hemp is over 36% Essential Fatty Acids, and in nature's perfect balance of 1-to-3 omega-3
and the USDA National Nutrient Database for Standard Reference (where the lentils nutriotion info comes from) doesnt even list hemp or cannabis!
and im not talkign abotu calories
those are had very easily from other sources (eat a freakin potatoe)
im talking about making healthy fucking living cells and making the body work as it was meant to!
basically every mitochondrion in every living thing is the same
where they mitochondrion evolved was in a soup saturated with nutrients
thats how they are meant to function! saturated in nutrients!
i think were are arguing some of the same stuff here but in diff ways, we gotta stay healthy, and there are many ways, im jsut looking at the easiest
and yes, i said almost live off it
i knwo we need variety, i am jsut sayign that hemp covers the protein bases no problem and thats a major downfall in peoples diets, (esp vegetarians diets!) not gettin all the proteins necessary
and omega fatty acids in the right amounts dont produce the negative effects that trans and saturated fats do! thats what i am talking about, and about how cells work better with omega fatty acids....
There is a female Russian scientist who has been doing a study of genetically modified foods from Monsanto, and she has found free ranging strands of DNA that could have the potential for problems, especially in children. Monsanto did not do any testing in this age group. Quite frankly, genetically modified foods scare the hell out of me. They have great potential for increasing our food supply and possibly delivering us from our dependance on huge amounts of herbicides and pesticides, but they will need to be tested for several generations before we know if there is safety involved. While they have the potential to do great good, they also have the potential for total disaster.
