Coco & Triflex?

[Greyskull]

Aloha, all you coco nuts.

I was tending my garden this evening when I realized I have almost full gallons (85% remaining) of the Triflex Base, Grow & Bloom parts. And I am going to be starting the next batch of plants Sunday (tomorrow!) and got to thinking...

Anyone done any coco grows with Triflex?

 

[Guest]

I'm using Triflex now, matter of fact. Got some free samples when I bought the 2x2 ebb and flow.

I Like it. As with any fertilizer, it's tough to dial in a multiple strain grow like I have, but overall, I'm liking it. Need to cut it by about 1/2 for young seedlings and fresh clones, and according to the ingredients label, has cal mag in it ( the grow formula anyway ), altho I supplement with Sensi Cal Mg Mix. Only other thing I add is Sweet..........

 

[Guest]

I'm using these sample bottles of triflex with my coco atm
20% more grow when used with coir is what the bottle says...

This stuffs pretty complete.. hope it works out.

 

[Greyskull]

I'm using these sample bottles of triflex with my coco atm
20% more grow when used with coir is what the bottle says...

This stuffs pretty complete.. hope it works out.

Gook luck HENNESSY. I've pulled up a chair to your thread and am very curious to see how the Triflex works for you. I was THEEEEEEES close to experimenting with it for MTF crop #2 (however I decided to continue down the Canna trail and further lock my ladies in tight).

I went to a few shops yesterday (had to get some supplies, as well as get an overview on my feed schedule to make sure it is whoelsome and packed with all the goodies my ladies need) and asked about the Triflex - for some reason or another none of the 3 were excited when I asked about it - for any application... of course they then tried to sell the AN line...

 

[nandro]

Been there, done that - works great.

Super simple, great growth on everything from American Spinach and Basil to Kush.

Peace,
Nandro

 

[Greyskull]

I decided to experiment, just not with my MTF yet... I filled up 4x4 #B with the "extra" plants I have...
(2) Grape Romulan
(2) Purple Ice
(1) Papaya
(1) SBBX3xSD

I am using the Botanicare Triflex schedule (minus the Pure Blend Original) at 50% strength and started rocking and rolling. We'll see how these ladies do....

 

[weed whacker]

another question is can you use h3ad's formula substituting triflex for gh flora?

what would be better for coco, using the same measurements as h3ad's formula, or following the guidlines on the back of the bottle?

 

[Greyskull]

ha ha i forgot about this thread.
i very much prefer the results of canna coco to triflex
the plants grew nice and healthy but did not harvest as heavy & the quality was not as high... though some of that could be due to unfamiliarity with the strains grown at the time.

I KNOW how to grow the SDxSB now and the canna grown is the bomb diggity

 

[tobaaaac]

3.5ml Base 5.5ml Bloom 2ml CalMag gives something similar to H3ad's GH profile. The spreadsheet actually says to use twice that, but then the mix is about twice as strong as H3ad's mix.

 

[weed whacker]

holy jesus are you sure about those measurements? so botanicare 3 part is nearly twice as strong as GH ?????

 

[Capn]

I have been using Triflex for a about a year now. Have had no problems with it and am still currently using it with Dutch Master: Zone and some Silica Blast.

 

[tobaaaac]

Yeah... the spreadsheet says that 7-11-3 Base-Bloom-CalMag gives the profile N-P-K-Mg-S-Ca:
95
58
108
49
21
96

But, when I mixed my reservoir with this mix, the solution comes to 1260 (i think... it was around there) at .5 conversion. My tap water is about 90ppm, so this means I just added 1170ppm of nutrients. When using H3ad's formula I get (650-90)=560ppm nutrients. So, the Triflex mix was about twice as strong as I needed. I actually only bought the GH Nutrients so that I could figure feeding out by starting from a point that is known to generally work. I could run my next crop on the half strength Triflex mix if you want to see that, weed whacker. It'll be starting it the 17th.

 

[weed whacker]

yeah man i'd be interested to see that. right now i've got some small plants going and i've been feeding them 6ml base / 9ml bloom handwatering daily and they are looking really healthy. how can this be?

 

[tejashidrow]

Weed remember...
That is just a BASIC guideline. A lot of other factor play in especially strian you are growing....
I did the 6/9 in coco and it burnt my plants to hell.....SO am going to try tobaaaaac's triflex idea, and see if it works better...
Got the triflex to use up anyway... good luck!!! pax

 

[weed whacker]

well hey i have been using triflex now for my grow and turns out 6ml base / 9ml bloom at EVERY WATERING is working great. i'm watering daily with those measurements, draining to waste.

 

[tobaaaac]

well hey i have been using triflex now for my grow and turns out 6ml base / 9ml bloom at EVERY WATERING is working great. i'm watering daily with those measurements, draining to waste.

The spreadsheet says that the N-P-K-Mg-S-Ca for using the 6ml base / 9ml bloom with Triflex looks like:
64
47
91
32
18
54
The Triflex profile from the spreadsheet yields a solution twice as strong as a GH solution with the same numbers on the spreadsheet. The spreadsheet was designed with GH in mind, I'm pretty sure. So, it appears that the 6ml base / 9ml bloom with the Triflex produces a profile that looks like:
127
94
181
64
37
108

This is close to the lucas formula 100-100-200-60. The amount of calcium in this looks good too. I think you might be on to something here! I think that I might have to try this ratio out. It's much simpler than the Triflex profile that I had previously calculated.

For my plants I'd have to top the rez with some water since they're light feeders.

 

[weed whacker]

yeah i've got some happy ladies with this, im almost thinking to maybe try upping the nutes a little, see where they start to burnnnnnn and then feed just alittle under that for mega growth

 

[one Q]

The spreadsheet says that the N-P-K-Mg-S-Ca for using the 6ml base / 9ml bloom with Triflex looks like:
64
47
91
32
18
54
The Triflex profile from the spreadsheet yields a solution twice as strong as a GH solution with the same numbers on the spreadsheet. The spreadsheet was designed with GH in mind, I'm pretty sure. So, it appears that the 6ml base / 9ml bloom with the Triflex produces a profile that looks like:
127
94
181
64
37
108

This is close to the lucas formula 100-100-200-60. The amount of calcium in this looks good too. I think you might be on to something here! I think that I might have to try this ratio out. It's much simpler than the Triflex profile that I had previously calculated.

For my plants I'd have to top the rez with some water since they're light feeders.

either you need to edit this, or Im slow You state that both profiles you show are from triflex.

 

[tobaaaac]

either you need to edit this, or Im slow You state that both profiles you show are from triflex.

Maybe you missed that I said: The Triflex profile from the spreadsheet yields a solution twice as strong as a GH solution with the same numbers on the spreadsheet.

By this, I mean that when a GH profile says it has 100ppm nitrogen, it has 100 ppm nitrogen. When the Triflex profile says it has 100, it has 200. So, when I type 12 / 18 into the spreadsheet, I get the second one which is what is actually in the 6 / 9 mix.

 

[one Q]

Ok, I missed somthing. I got it now. This is good info.

Now just to clarify your not including CalMag+ into your 6/9 ratio are you?