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m-39 is it still around?

hidingtree

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Clackamas Coot said:
It gets really confusing in Southern Oregon. There are 2 cities down there, one called 'Williams' and another called 'Wonder' and there is a clone-only strain that originated from that area called 'Williams Wonder' and it is distributed through the various medical marijuana groups in the Pacific Northwest.

It is never referred to as 'M-39' (which was the catalog ID in the SSSC deal, right?) but rather always as 'Williams Wonder' and it is very powerful pain medicine.

I have the cut and have grown it for a couple of years. What's interesting is that this clone-only strain in Oregon called 'Williams Wonder' looks absolutely NOTHING like any of the photos on this thread so far.

I know that in Southern Oregon it was not uncommon for growers to name their strains for the region that it was grown in way back when. There's a strain from Tiller, Oregon called 'Tiller Killer' for example.

The Oregon version of Williams Wonder can be traced to at least 1981 which would have been 6 or 7 years before the publication of the SSSC catalog.

I'm not trying to say that the one in Oregon is the 'real deal' or anything like that but rather that if you get a cutting/clone from the Pacific Northwest and it's called Williams Wonder you may be in for a surprise which may be a good surprise or not so good surprise.

The Oregon version has a definite structure - unlike any other cannabis plant that I've ever seen personally or in photos. The leaves are about the size of the palm of your hand and the branching structure has leaves along both sides that looks somewhat similar to English Ivy (for lack of a better description). Yield is fantastic, huge hard nuggets, easy to clone, some of the best pain management out there, etc. - just about a perfect plant.

Cheers!

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i think in the old catalogue the williams wonder is actually the stock # M31 ...M39 is the sk#1/nl#5 which is Definitely different hence the unlikely photo similarities ..... hope this solves a bit of confusion .
 
i was under the impresion that sssc m39 is now sensi's shiva skunk and either m31 or m37 was williams wonder,. need to find out i got some f2's of the old williams wonder from sssc from a older buddy of mine and should have some of rez's williams wonder here soon too want to compare the 2 and make a bunch of them for my cash cropping buddy's (not on the internet, dont even think most of them have ever saw the internet lol)
 

vince514

seeker of greater knowledge
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i'M up here in the north and i gotta tell ya guys the pics of the m-39 i see aren't even close to the cut going on up here in mtl imo i'm sure there a couple of others who would agree.... i'm not sure but the m-39 got it's name by sequential order in the catalogue and their discription is Basic 5(a nothern lights variation) X skunk#1......it just goes insane on flood tables with oodles of co2... 2liter pepsi bottle sized buds....... it has a nice creamy/skunky/peppery odor real nice for bed time smoke but because it's the commercial variety around here along with the jack herer but greedy money hungry growers cut their shit way to early 45 days when all they need is an extra 10 days or so and it would be much much better IMHO i dont particulary like the m when it's cut early it gives crazy heart palpations racey buzz and heavy paranoia not very favorable traits.(when cut early) :rasta: :rasta: :laughing: :laughing:

if anyone is interested in buying some m-39 beans and not to paranoid to pick up the phone the location is called HEMP QUEBEC NUMBER AUTHENTIC MJ SEEDS......CHECK IT OUT EVERYONE :asskick: :asskick: :Bolt:
Hemp Quebec: 5757 Boul, MONK, Montréal, Québec, Canada, H4E 3H2; tel 514-761-0781; www.hemp-quebec.com :headbange :headbange
backissues -> CC46 -> Quebec Cannabis Cup founder gets a year in prison
by Dana Larsen (11 Dec, 2003) Alain Berthiaume expected to serve most of his sentence for hosting Montreal canna-party.

Alain Berthiaume, founder of the Quebec Cannabis and Hashish Cup, was sentenced in September to one year in jail for three counts of trafficking at the 2001 Cup, and also sentenced to one year in jail for cultivation of 1,000 clones found at his house six months later.

Berthiaume, founder of Montreal's Hemp Quebec store and seed bank, started the Quebec Cannabis and Hashish Cup in November 1999, and each year it grew bigger and more complex.

In November 2001, over 1,000 guests attended the Montreal celebration, each receiving a judge's kit with eight one-gram samples of pot plus two kinds of hash. Berthiaume himself distributed the kits to his guests. Judges also enjoyed two days of live music and entertainment, plus delicious food (CC#35, Canadian cannabis competitions).

Yet late in the evening on the first day, a dozen police officers entered the hall, and asked Berthiaume to come with them outside. He was then arrested, cuffed and taken to jail.

The next day, a group of about 50 Cup attendees marched through downtown Montreal, led by Cannabis Culture publisher Marc Emery and Canadian Marijuana Party leader Marc-Boris St-Maurice. The group chanted "Free Alain" as they made their way to the police station where Berthiaume was being held.

Berthiaume was released a few days later, and had planned to hold his event again in 2002, despite the arrest and charges. Yet shortly before the November 2002 event, Berthiaume was convicted and sentenced to a year in jail, and so the Cup was cancelled.

Berthiaume appealed his convictions, but his appeals have failed and he must now serve at least most of his one-year sentence.


• Quebec Cannabis Cup: email [email protected]; web www.quebeccannabiscup.com
• Hemp Quebec: 5757 Boul, MONK, Montréal, Québec, Canada, H4E 3H2; tel 514-761-0781; www.hemp-quebec.com
:listen2: :listen2: :jawdrop: :jawdrop: :smoweed:
 
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QcIndica

Member
i have seeing a lot of m-39 plant and your m-39 look like the real deal.
where you from?,its a clone or seeds.

peace.
 

QcIndica

Member
For those who want to have the m-39 if you cant having in a clone form try shiva skunk from sensi,he is different but its close .the m-39 is a bit faster and the bud r more dense but the shiva skunk is a better quality.

peace.

(sorry for my english)
 

RottenDawg

Member
QcIndica said:
For those who want to have the m-39 if you cant having in a clone form try shiva skunk from sensi,he is different but its close .the m-39 is a bit faster and the bud r more dense but the shiva skunk is a better quality.

peace.

(sorry for my english)

I'm pretty sure the Shiva Skunk was a cross of different parents than the M-39. Yes, NL X SK but still different parents. I'm actually pretty positive of this..........RD
 

Wayzer

Active member
Hey guys!

QC AND MILO those are clones from mtl


and these babies can get taken down at the end of week 6 no problem... those pics are 6 and a half weeks. Had pm issues, i like to push them 8 to get the real couch lock brutality...
 

Black Ra1n

Cannaculturist ~OGA~
Veteran
Hey Wayzer my buddy takes his down at 42-45, I don't find it as good. I've gone 56, 60, and as much as 75. I like 60, it's a nice high that will eventually put you to sleep. Great strain for pain too, have a few friends who swear by the medical benefits of this strain. I think I have the same cut as you, looks identical, mine is from Montreal too. I've done some crossing, and plan on a few more. I'm planning a cross with a SS male for some Super 39

Take care...
B/R
 

Wayzer

Active member
hey black rain! I ve acyualy seen some of ur m39 threads... I dont doubt its the same cut... The guy i got it from called it Double O, but ive heard that name used for many things around... whatever, it's for sure M39!

that super39 sounds like it would be an awesome cross, good luck with that
 

Black Ra1n

Cannaculturist ~OGA~
Veteran
Thanks man... I'm out to spread the good word on this strain. A real keeper, great all around plant that has a bad name because of a few losers. I can't remember exactly where the cut came from, but I think my buddy said it was from an ex who got a cut from the H/A, all I know is that I'm glad to have access to it. Yeah I'll be doing a bunch of M39 cross's this summer... most won't be stabilized but all the same....

B/R
 
Haven't smoked in a while since I've lost my good contact, all I can find is m-39, the cash croppers in Montreal just flood the market in the surrounding areas with early harvest m-39. like a lot of people have commented it's heart racing paranoia inducing and not worthy of being called an indica , I wish they'd grow it properly.

I'd rather be sober than smoke that crap..
 
G

Guest

S1B5, M39, Shiva Skunk...all the same...same P stock...just different names...NOT clone only...Many heirloom cuts, but not clone only...Read something as recent as 2 yrs ago from Sensi regarding all the "nicknames" that the strain has gotten over time...SS was used in the Princess cube 4 sure...
 
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QcIndica

Member
RzaWreck said:
S1B5, M39, Shiva Skunk...all the same...same P stock...just different names...NOT clone only...Many heirloom cuts, but not clone only...Read something as recent as 2 yrs ago from Sensi regarding all the "nicknames" that the strain has gotten over time...SS was used in the Princess cube 4 sure...

M39=clone only
shivaskunk=sensiseeds
M39=sativaseedsclub or something like this.

peace QC.
 
G

Guest

Black and White is Grey...I don't care who sells Grey...Or what year Black and White hooked up to make Grey...Grey is Grey...And M-39 is S1/B5 aka Shiva Skunk...Your M-39 may go down in your personal history as a clone only in your area...but there are seeds that hold the same genes available...
Hence...
 

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