Indoor growers ~ Spring is starting to happen. It's a good idea to swap out your old NPS for a new one. Good idea to put one in with your grow if you haven't already! We don't need no stinkin' spider mites.
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No Pest Strips (NPS)
- Thread starter gladysvjubb
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Microwido
Thank you for the reminder! I found a lady bug on one of my leaves the other day, and there are tiny holes in my basement that let insects in that I cant find so I will use these.
G
Guest
I Love lady bugs in the garden, spiders too. The take care of business.
Please also remember that the usa is one of the last countries on earth that still allow these to be sold, due to them being linked to all kinds of nasty health probs in people. Not really a concern for short term usage in a small space, but I wouldnt keep a couple in a grow that is vented into the house long term.
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ogatec
these things are very powerful, no need to have it in the gardn unles there is a pest problem. when all the pests are gone ti should be taken out. i once used one of thesein my house when i first saw them. it cased all sorts of temporary problems for me like muscle weakness & twiching, which went away when i removed the strip. BE CARFUL WITH THESE THINGS. they are a powerful poison& i wouldnt want to be smoking the residue.
that beeing said they work very well when you have an infestation.
that beeing said they work very well when you have an infestation.
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Microwido
ogatec said:
Holly crap, thanks for the warning! I want something to act pre-emptively. You know, something that will keep bugs from getting to my babies. Would you recommend something else that is more safe? Thanks.
G
Guest
Definately dont use them until you have spidermites.A cool mist humidifier in veg gives those bastards a hard environment to get a foothold.Check the undersides of the leaves with a scope at the slightest dottage or suspicion of dottage.Be proactive but only use dichlorvous when spidermites and eggs are evident.I hang for 48 hours and remove for 24-48,then rehang for 24-48.I've never had a re-infestation.
SoylentGreen said:
I'm soooo glad for you. What do they do when they run out of food?
G
Guest
If they run out of food they will escape to a food source or starve,they will not eat your plants.Actually they only eat aphids though I've heard some say they eat whitefiles too,they dont fuck with spidermites period.Good to have around if aphids is your nightmare
these defintly do work.. i had a fungus gnat or some kind of flying insect, tossed one of these in the flower room and one in the vegg room and no more bugs. i guess that spider i found in the shower is not happy i put him in the room with the nps. it was either put him in the garden or squash him. probly shoulda squashed him and put him out of his misery instead of poisoning him to death.. OOPs
G
Guest
I went through unnecessary chemical preventative measures for pest control,then I identified my main pest and decided to control it.Do you have warm weather mites like the two spot or cool weather like the southern red?They both hate a visable mist humidifier in veg at any temp but small things about preferred environment and such are priceless.Most of us have to deal with the same pest over and over and its best to be preventative if possible.
surfingrob
Member
I'm gonna have to try one of these as I tried a copycat one and it didnt work very well. I hear youre not supposed to use this when there are plants in flowering. It gets me kinda scared when I hear about those health problems. The generic one was even making me feel odd... unfocused almost, I couldn't concentrate. I took it out of the room as soon as I could. Unfortunately, I have a mite problem which needs to be taken care of, everything is infected with at least a few eggs, I use neem and SMC regularly to control them.
Let's review:
1. Buy poison
2. Open sealed bag that poison is in
3. Introduce poison to your otherwise poison free dwelling.
4. Let poison permeate every square inch
5. Enter room(s) where posion has permeated and breath normally.
6. Inhale posion.
(I'll leave out dermal translocation for sake of arguement. lol)
1. Buy poison
2. Open sealed bag that poison is in
3. Introduce poison to your otherwise poison free dwelling.
4. Let poison permeate every square inch
5. Enter room(s) where posion has permeated and breath normally.
6. Inhale posion.
(I'll leave out dermal translocation for sake of arguement. lol)
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I would be scared to leave these near living spaces for more than a few hours. I think it says one strip is good for 1 dumpster. What if you had a sealed grow space with about the same square footage and put 3 NPS in there for a couple-few hours with the fans turned off? Do you think that would be enough to kill all bugs in that space? Afterwords, you could turn the fans back on and either exhaust thru a carbon scrubber(not sure if this would damage its odor control ability) or just open the cab or whatever and vent the room to the outside. Anyone tried this?
Like others have said, don't use these for longer then necessary. (if you are going to do it)
I personally would only use them as a last resort, and if I had a case now that required them I would not use them. (I have a baby in the house)
I have used them in the past, and they work well. They can kill bugs many feet from them. So that poison is floating around everywhere in the area of one of these, and if you vent into your house, it will wind up everywhere in your home.
I personally would only use them as a last resort, and if I had a case now that required them I would not use them. (I have a baby in the house)
I have used them in the past, and they work well. They can kill bugs many feet from them. So that poison is floating around everywhere in the area of one of these, and if you vent into your house, it will wind up everywhere in your home.
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Guest
The one thing thats actually missing from this thread is any information on dichlorvos... the active ingredient....
These things from what Ive determined are pretty safe....
one very good thing is that it does not accumulate in the tissues....
its broken down within hours by enzymes.... into non harmful constituants...
I use them when necessary.....
and will continue to....
These things from what Ive determined are pretty safe....
one very good thing is that it does not accumulate in the tissues....
its broken down within hours by enzymes.... into non harmful constituants...
I use them when necessary.....
and will continue to....
The food industry has used no pest strips fer years in slaughter houses and food prep factories for restaurants.Not right where the food itself is but by the door going in,out in the hallways.Also,if ya do a search,I'm Boggled has posted some excellent info on these.Read it carefully tho,it can be kinda misleading.If I'm not mistaken they actully had to feed it to animals before they got a reaction.It's been a long time since I read it tho,so I'm not possitive.Anyway,check it out. Take care...BC
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EPA to Restrict Some Uses of Pest Strip Insecticide
The EPA, in response to a request from pesticide product manufacturer AMVAC, is poised to restrict some uses of a common “pest strip” insecticide known as DDVP, or diclorvos. DDVP is an organophosphate insecticide, a class of highly toxic pesticides. Low-level exposure to DDVP can cause headaches, nausea, and vomiting; large doses of the poison can be fatal. Laboratory studies have also shown that DDVP can cause cancer; California classifies it as a “known carcinogen,” and the World Health Organization and the EPA name it a “possible human carcinogen.”
The largest of the pest strips, often used in homes, will be completely removed from the market. The second-largest size will be limited to use in garages, attics, crawl spaces, and sheds where people spend fewer than four hours each day. The smallest size pest strip will be restricted for use in closets, wardrobes, and cupboards. Pest strips impacted include AlcoR No-Pest Strip, AMVAC Insect Strip, AlcoR Pest Strip, AMVAC No-Pest Strip, and Swat Pest Strip.
Environmental health advocates asserted that EPA and AMVAC are not going far enough; the advocates say that all home uses of DDVP should be cancelled because the pesticide is one of the most potent toxins currently on the market.
"All of these uses inside the home are dangerous things. That's what is of most concern," said Aaron Colangelo of the Natural Resources Defense Council. He noted that DDVP is already banned in Great Britain, Denmark, and Sweden.
For information on how to combat insects and other pests in the home using integrated pest management (IPM) instead of high-toxicity pesticides, see www.afhh.org/dah/dah_pesticides.htm and www.beyondpesticides.org.
EPA to Restrict Some Uses of Pest Strip Insecticide
The EPA, in response to a request from pesticide product manufacturer AMVAC, is poised to restrict some uses of a common “pest strip” insecticide known as DDVP, or diclorvos. DDVP is an organophosphate insecticide, a class of highly toxic pesticides. Low-level exposure to DDVP can cause headaches, nausea, and vomiting; large doses of the poison can be fatal. Laboratory studies have also shown that DDVP can cause cancer; California classifies it as a “known carcinogen,” and the World Health Organization and the EPA name it a “possible human carcinogen.”
The largest of the pest strips, often used in homes, will be completely removed from the market. The second-largest size will be limited to use in garages, attics, crawl spaces, and sheds where people spend fewer than four hours each day. The smallest size pest strip will be restricted for use in closets, wardrobes, and cupboards. Pest strips impacted include AlcoR No-Pest Strip, AMVAC Insect Strip, AlcoR Pest Strip, AMVAC No-Pest Strip, and Swat Pest Strip.
Environmental health advocates asserted that EPA and AMVAC are not going far enough; the advocates say that all home uses of DDVP should be cancelled because the pesticide is one of the most potent toxins currently on the market.
"All of these uses inside the home are dangerous things. That's what is of most concern," said Aaron Colangelo of the Natural Resources Defense Council. He noted that DDVP is already banned in Great Britain, Denmark, and Sweden.
For information on how to combat insects and other pests in the home using integrated pest management (IPM) instead of high-toxicity pesticides, see www.afhh.org/dah/dah_pesticides.htm and www.beyondpesticides.org.
