Is it possible to overoxygenate your res?

[Guest]

Ok guys........It`s Keepalive.net.. .....Sue me after 1 too many bongs but reap the benefits......MAJOR D/O injected into your rez`s and controllers for peanuts .........PEACE..........DHF......

 

[Guest]

OK man...I'm gonna sue your sorry stoned ass... ...just kidding bro...I'll check it out ....thanx .

 

[Guest]

keepalive.net...ahhh...that's better...lol. I'll get back to you after taking a look see bro .

 

[Guest]

Redux.......Me and you are cool.........Check my research.....Only cements my endeavors.............PEACE.............DHF..............

 

[Guest]

keep your res around 21C and you'll be a happy camper

yep ive found best 21-22C (as allways mace,on the money)

had a 60ltr pump in a 60Ltr tub once. was like a spa bath. plants didnyt like it too well. just a thought hehe. not too sure about over oxgenating but it was was like washing machine.did more harm then good.

great points guys. suck it all up Redux lol.


keep em green


these beat airstones IMO http://www.alita.com/diffuser/siliconehose.php
once ya buy them thats it. works out cheapa

 

[Guest]

yep ive found best 21-22C (as allways mace,on the money)

had a 60ltr pump in a 60Ltr tub once. was like a spa bath. plants didnyt like it too well. just a thought hehe. not too sure about over oxgenating but it was was like washing machine.did more harm then good.

great points guys. suck it all up Redux lol.


keep em green


these beat airstones IMO http://www.alita.com/diffuser/siliconehose.php
once ya buy them thats it. works out cheapa

Hey man...any input as to why the girls didn't like it??? You know...I looked at the Alita silicon hose and went with their sintered air stone instead. Why do you think they're better than a sintered air stone? That hose is $8 per foot (I think) shipped. A 12" sintered stone is like $16 + shipping and are supposed to be very durable (long life and easy to clean). I don't see why the hose is better except you can lay a line on the bottom of your res. You still have to weight the damn stuff down. For the money it seemed like the stone was a better way to go...whatcha say man??? My pump is only 25 liters...pretty weak I guess for a 115 gal res...eh? Still Alita said it'll drive 2 12" sintered stones. That's alot of bubbles. I'm still doing some research into the Mazzei injectors though.

Damn...sometimes I get confused...but hell...the girls still look good .

 

[Trichome Toker]

I use way, way, way over sized air pumps & my plants love it.

Krusty used a powerhead and had the roots sitting in a frothing super bubbling 2" of water.

If Krusty can use a power head to oxygenate 2" of water, I think my 100 Gal aquarium pumps will be fine in 2 1/2 gallons of water in my bubbler.

 

[Guest]

hey hey, sure i will expand on what ive said about both the hose v tubing and why my plants didnt like a JET SPA like environment by a way tooo big a pump being used

as for the air stones Vs tubing, first words did it for me on the alita description by alita, "NON CLOG" verus " Extremely durable and washable (reusable)" of the air stones. im running KFB style buckets once my plants are in, i will not ever expose the roots to light, (no stress) so i want peice of mind knowing im never going to get clogs.
maybe that cheaper comment isnt entirely 110% correct, though IMO worth the extra dollars for peice of mind valve. you ussually get what you pay for 7 out of 10 times. . they dont boast non clog about the airstones. and i will be keen too see how long they last. maybe in a couple of years we can talk again and see which lasted longer hehe. only my opinion i dont weigh my down, there drilled from the bottom of the bucket so they sit nice

as for why my plants didnt like the big pump, the JET SPA comment summed it all up,lots of aeration yes but a violent environment from what was creating that aeration is what they didnt like.

as i said all the best ,was just sharing my past experiences

keep em green!

 

[Guest]

my plants didnt like a JET SPA like environment

Damn...I was going to convert my hot tub into a big DWC bucket...lol. Hey man...thanx for the input. I appreciate feedback from someone with experience with the Alita stuff. I got onto that stuff after seeing MTF Sandman post about it. I looked long and hard at all the options. I agree the hose is great stuff (non-clogging, long lasting, fantastic aeration) but in the end could not justify it for my setup. In the long run you may very well do better. My res feeds the slabs by a pump and about 8' of 1/2" line before hitting the plants. The stones should hold up well. Right now GH nutes and weekly res changes so things stay pretty clean. I think the sintered stones can handle muratic acid treatments. Anyway...they are pretty hardcore.

You usually get what you pay for 7 out of 10 times I guess...lol. I've only been 105% correct at best...lol.

You guys rock ...thanx!

 

[mace_ecam]

Gday Eulogy!

had a 60ltr pump in a 60Ltr tub

lol, i bet that would even blow the hair of my head

 

[Trichome Toker]

I found air stones that don't clog at my hydro shop a few months ago.

They weigh themselves down & are super high quality, I love them.

http://www.deepwaterinnovations.com

They are made specifically for DWC.

 

[Guest]

Nice addition Trichome Toker. I really like the center feed design for air...which makes much more sense than injecting the end of a long diffuser...like in a 12" unit. The ones I got are made of fused alumina...doh!...just realized that may not be such a good thing...aluminum oxide that is. Anyway...the sintered stones will withstand most anything except oils. Doubt there will be aluminum release but maybe...doh! I like the ceramic design of the Deep Water Innovation pieces.

The Alita diffuser tubing looks like great stuff. I checked into the KeepAlive products a bit more and seems the best thing to power the units is a 'manual' mode battery charger. If using an 'auto' mode charger you need to add a battery to the setup. They still look great...especially the thru-hull design units. No doubt they kick butt but I'm gonna stick with what I got...for now. Good info though DEDHEDFRED! Seems like that thing won't clog and would probably require minimal maintenance (cleaning) to keep going properly.

I did some quick Google research and it appears the only problem with alumina is inhalation of dust. Seems very unreactive.

Anyway...thanx for all the input.

 

[Guest]

My buddy...........The thru-the hull design keeps ALL the heat outside of all reservoirs and controllers(I use 50 gallon olive barrels for controllers and have a 325 gallon rez that`s made for pest-control mounted on a pick-up-truck with a float valve topping off said rez with R/O water after every feed to keep ph and ppm`s in check and change out rez every 7-10 days depending on how long it takes to bring ppm`s down to changeable levels).... Also eliminating what I used to have in the bottom of "every" bucket blowin heat from a thomas compressor thru soaker hose growing KBS style......So........I have a 1/4 hp. aqua-logic "drop-in " chiller that`s thermostatically controlled for the nute solution so as not to raise bucket temps during the scheduled 4 times a day feed lights on ,and the aerator takin care of ALL of the dissolved oxygen needs............Titties and beer are we............PEACE........DHF............

 

[Guest]

Thanx DEDHEDFRED...I was looking at going cheap with a used water cooler chiller modified to drop in the res for the upcoming Summer months as I have not found an inexpensive pre-made unit. I'll check out the Aqua Logic units. Those KeepAlive units do look sweet but sometimes I'm stubborn as hell...I still have time to change my mind on this one though.

 

[haze-silly]

DHR or Redux

DHR or Redux

I have picked up the floating KeepAlive aerator. Would you mind explaining how you wired this bad boy?

I've got ZERO electrical inclination.

thanks

a dose of who they will be tending after....

 

[clowntown]

Well, I found out that aerating isn't a positive thing for all nutes: House & Garden specifically warns against aerating any of their coco nutrients.

 

[Guest]

House & Garden specifically warns against aerating any of their coco nutrients.

I'll think you'll find they don't really say that anymore and may even admit a typo of some sort? Is that for the coco nutes or for their entire line? Clowntown...I know their story was no aeration but the tune has changed somewhat. I'm pretty sure some of their products are geared for recirculation and some are for run to/drain to waste.

Yes...this is Redux...same avvy if any one was noticing.

This is a year old thread come back to life .

Something like that so don't quote me.

 

[clowntown]

Nice to see you again, Redux. Was wondering what happened!

I wasn't aware H&G had changed their stance on aeration; that's interesting... wonder what their reasons were, before and after the change?

 

[Guest]

Would you mind explaining how you wired this bad boy?

I never played with one of those. I know Dedhedfred used one but he's gone from IC. Sorry I can't help.

Clowntown...I don't know all the specifics but H&G did change their tune about res aeration fairly recently. I saw a response from H&G someone posted some place else and they basically said aeration is fine but keep in mind they do have a line specifically for recirculating systems. Wish I could provide more enlightening info. Almost sounded like they admitted they were a bit wrong.

After more research and stuff seems something like a multi flow bucket system doesn't need additional aeration and you can run solution temps higher. I'm not running hydro anymore...100% organics pre-amended in soil with some top dressings. Basically just add water...I love it.