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Cloning lowryder

Big Bud Bear

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Is this possible? I was pondering using these for my next run. I'd like to be able to clone obviously, but hear odd things in regards to this strain... :rasta:
 
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IME, it roots if taken early enough, but all you're gonna do is cut yield, because the clone of this cultivar (LR) will essentially just grow into the part of the plant it would have been, minus delays for new root growth. Basically, you end up with less overall yield as it slows down the 'mother' plant too much and the clone can't put out enough roots to produce anything worth mentioning.

just a waste of a plant IMHO
 

Mr Celsius

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Completely pointless, do a couple seed runs if you want more plants.
 

Thule

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I took the cutting after the first pistils showed, just out of curiosity. As the flowering had alrady sarted it never rooted. If I would have taken it earlier it might have rooted, but because it would still flower you'd end up with something miniature.
 

Big Bud Bear

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so it is not possible? shame.. so i geuss you never know what your going to get each run in terms of size, how good and how much..
 

Herbalistic

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Not worth it, if you are after succesfull results!

When you take clone from a autoflowering strain it doesnt stop flowering, but flowers as a small cutting :(

As for Thule: It is more than possible to take cuttings from flowering plant and make them root! Only thing worth mentioning about this is you have to keep in mind that you have to wait approximately 3* the time you would have to wait with clones from plant in vegstate, so.... Reserve enough time to wait them cuttings to root -> patience is trump in this matter, as in many other things regarding growing cannabis...

For example, I took cuttings from a over ripe Whiteskunk plant because I didnt have any more at the moment and the strain would bbe lost from my collection. There wasnt any "good" branches to clone, but even the smallest branches had formes buds.. I cut three little branches of the plant and cut the buds off from them, after this I just stick it in rockwool and waited for 3 & 4.5 weeks them to root, but thee main thing is that they did root :D
 

Thule

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I have to add that during the time the LR2 clone was rooting I was on holidays. I didn't actually see what happened to it, but my roommate told me it had just died. So I don't know how lr reacts to cloning really.

I've cloned bigger auto strains succesfully before. They won't get big either but yeah, you can do that if the strain has a little stretch.
 

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Haven't heard anything on this in a while, but cold temps apparently delay the AF. That's why some people who planted the original LR too early outdoors ended up with bigger plants, there was some info on Highbred about it.
 

Herbalistic

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Thule said:
I have to add that during the time the LR2 clone was rooting I was on holidays. I didn't actually see what happened to it, but my roommate told me it had just died. So I don't know how lr reacts to cloning really.

I've cloned bigger auto strains succesfully before. They won't get big either but yeah, you can do that if the strain has a little stretch.

Yeah,they would probably rooted if your roommate would have little patience..

What I mean was that I cannot see any benefit cloning af strain like Lowryder (especially the microgenotype), they start flowering so small that it would cut the yield of a "motherplant" + the clone will most definitely root, but it´s straigtht on a flowermode and dont produce shit!!

If we are talking about some bigger & stretchier af strain -> I would say you could get some benefit out of it!!!

Seriously, think about taking clone from a LR plant this small and the following clone is immediately on a flowermode :confused:




I know those are some shitty looking little pygmies, but I made some seeds and they are seriously over ripe suffering from low maintenance!!!

As for bigger af strain.. I can see the benefits coming from cloning it, even if it doesnt stop flowering! Here´s some pics of this unknown autoflowering sativadom I was fortunate to receive some seeds:

















I hope you guys/gals get my point...

BTW, I crossed this unknown autoflowering sativadom strain with autoflowering Blockhead male, should be some interesting experiments next outdoor season fo´real!! :yummy:

Peace :wave:
 

Herbalistic

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Hello Ganico my friend, those above did get about 1 M long. They were too long in too small pots and would probably take more height if transplanted in bigger pots before..

I did cross her with Blockhead, here´s how the parent plants look like!

Mom´s:




And the dad:


As you can see I limited the rootspace of these mom´s quite a bit and they finished in 3 L pot, so they both get about 1.5 L rootspace to keep them small and to check their stress ability regarding hermafrodism, because all those "big" girls at my previous post were herming, but that was because friend messed their lightcycle REAL bad!!! I didnt found any male flowers in those three females I did grow and man, oh man did I stress them and NO sign of hermafrodism :woohoo:

What you think my southern friend, would this cross be suitable at your climate? :wink: The reason I asked is I did remember something from our previous conversations considering this unknown af strain.. I olny have 6 original beans left, but plenty from my cross with af Blockhead male..
 

Big Bud Bear

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Herbalistic said:
Hello Ganico my friend, those above did get about 1 M long. They were too long in too small pots and would probably take more height if transplanted in bigger pots before..

I did cross her with Blockhead, here´s how the parent plants look like!

Mom´s:




And the dad:


As you can see I limited the rootspace of these mom´s quite a bit and they finished in 3 L pot, so they both get about 1.5 L rootspace to keep them small and to check their stress ability regarding hermafrodism, because all those "big" girls at my previous post were herming, but that was because friend messed their lightcycle REAL bad!!! I didnt found any male flowers in those three females I did grow and man, oh man did I stress them and NO sign of hermafrodism :woohoo:

What you think my southern friend, would this cross be suitable at your climate? :wink: The reason I asked is I did remember something from our previous conversations considering this unknown af strain.. I olny have 6 original beans left, but plenty from my cross with af Blockhead male..
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Ganico said:
Haven't heard anything on this in a while, but cold temps apparently delay the AF. That's why some people who planted the original LR too early outdoors ended up with bigger plants, there was some info on Highbred about it.

That's very true IME. I moved a couple original LR outdoors in very early spring because of impending security issues and they virtually stopped frowth in 50* weather, but you'll get that with most cultivars from what i've read and seen in my own limited experience.

The buds just kind of stayed at the size they were at, didn't mature anymore, and just started molding up due to the low temps and high humidity. It's ok, it was a seed run anyway and i got 200+ seeds off those 2 lil 8-12inchers :rasta:

LR, at the least the original, really needs nice temps to do anything at all. WIth such a small plant, you really need to optimize conditions in order to get the most out of it you can, as one lil f up can leave ya with half the yield you woulda seen otherwise.

It's a great lil plant, just gotta treat yer ladies right.
 

Mr Celsius

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I have no idea why any of you are even saying the word lowryder when Lowlife seeds exist... I have 10 auto-white russian going. He has auto-ak, auto-hindu kush, auto-blueberry x ak, and a couple more coming out soon.

Point is, lowryder is a thing of the past and all is good for is X'ing a good strain with.

so i geuss you never know what your going to get each run in terms of size, how good and how much..

They are actually quite consistent in growth patterns. You will see less variance in autos then normal plants because of the massive inbreeding that is required to retain the recessive gene of autoflowering. Forget lowryder, even forgot #2. I might touch PowerStout, but its unlikely.

http://www.drchronic.com/products.asp?category=Lowlife+Seeds

AUTO-AK47-BB-200.jpg

AUTO-AK47-200.jpg


Lowryder don't look like that ^
 
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Ganico

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As far as "Lowlife" goes:

"Auto Hindu-Kush" Sounds just like Masterlow

"Auto AK" sounds like the "LR x AK"s aka "MiniGun" that went around a few years ago

"Auto Blueberry x AK" sounds like "BlueStreak x MiniGun"

All of these are crosses that Mdanzig already did. Just kinda strange that if there is another AF breeder they come out with pretty much the EXACT same strains ,haha.
 
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Herbalistic

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Thanks for the thought Ganico, it made me think :chin:

Aint no biZneZZ as seedbiZ :muahaha:

Maybe MDANZIG wanna comment something if he chimes in :D
 

Herbalistic

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Sorry Big Bud Bear that ^this^ troll did come to your thread! It´s so sad that people like ^^^even exist in these forums!

And for you my "admirer" IGNORE=IGNORE=IGNORE :moon:
 

Thule

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Mr Celsius said:
I have no idea why any of you are even saying the word lowryder when Lowlife seeds exist... I have 10 auto-white russian going. He has auto-ak, auto-hindu kush, auto-blueberry x ak, and a couple more coming out soon.

Point is, lowryder is a thing of the past and all is good for is X'ing a good strain with.



They are actually quite consistent in growth patterns. You will see less variance in autos then normal plants because of the massive inbreeding that is required to retain the recessive gene of autoflowering. Forget lowryder, even forgot #2. I might touch PowerStout, but its unlikely.

http://www.drchronic.com/products.asp?category=Lowlife+Seeds

AUTO-AK47-BB-200.jpg

AUTO-AK47-200.jpg


Lowryder don't look like that ^

We are using lowryder as the general term for all todays autoflowering strains. They are after all descendent from lowryder. ALL of them. That's quite ridiculous.

I'm sure lowlife has the strongest autoflower strains today, no doubt. BUT, I wouldn't like to give them my money which will be used in their greeding projects.

Lowlife is nothing but a money making machine. They realized the huge amounts of money that can be made with autoflowering hybrids of the most popular stains. As breeders they have no, or refuse to use imagination. They just make every damn strain they think will sell into an autoflower.

All of their strains are based on lowryder. All of their strains are based on worn out commercial genetics from the US and Netherlands. Who needs another AK47, another Haze, another White Russian? BORING!!! I know they will sell like shit, but still. Imagination and true love for the plant is what we need, not replicas of these Frankenstein genetics. If someone else desided to go in the autoflower business he would have a hard time finding a strain that these goons haven't yet raped with lowryder.

We can do better than that :smile: We love our cannabis sativa.
 
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