MASSIVE OUTDOOR GROW

[Julian]

OTC

Yeah, enjoy that flick....been hard to hold my tongue but don't want to be a spoiler.....

Connections/access? I never discuss it here, and, don't think anyone else should for a reason (access and methods, etc....) But, I do much more than most probably do for obvious reasons....a little over the top .....but...is what it is

Coco....

Was talking about it for a while here and elsewhere...last year had a chance to buy a truckload of those bricks for good price.....haven't really used it, and, do I need it? (well, with last spot)...no, obviously, but, of course, couldn't do anything but help....they seem pretty efficient overall (small, compact, use on site, etc...)...Doesn't seem a downside to it for anyone.....(combined with a dry organic mix and crystals...(of course, the organic ones mentioned earlier ...)....seems it would do nothing but help to simplify things...(which is always goal no matter how many one ones....simplify....greater efficiency, etc, which all effects time management and efforts, etc.....

Very easy to engage in a practice(s) which in the end cause more work for ones self, so.....seems very efficient, etc.....

(My current...lot of great soil, then, some not so great, but, even the not so great was not bad this year....only problem I had was far in (towards last quarter) I had some heavy, heavy, heavy rains which cause a couple problems...(flushed some high spots....then also created some issues in areas with heavier clay in soil...so.....)

Only problem is expanding..(never used coco....know what it is of course, just never used it)....wonder if could just break/shred and use dry if would be as effective or has to be expanded before mixed in...(sure many will say expanded and mixed, but, same as crystals....some wet down before use (I do), and some use dry in mix (I do.......I do both)....so....

 

[Reinhold]

Julian Ive really enjoyed this thread and have gotten much out of it, not only on aspects of growing, but on aspects of life, truly the words you display tell how wise of a man you are, really loved the 4 senses of self, i mean thats so deep, yet so simple. I have defiantly wrote it down for future references. And although not your thread you did contribute quite a bit

And like you said you'll get the nay sayers but do they practice what they preach hmmm.

Well I wish you the best of luck in whatever life throws to you, i truly do, hats off to you my friend. Last season or not continue rockin man!

 

[Julian]

Julian Ive really enjoyed this thread and have gotten much out of it, not only on aspects of growing, but on aspects of life, truly the words you display tell how wise of a man you are,

Well thank you my friend......very kind of you to say.........I'm humbled as always........sincerely....

really loved the 4 senses of self, i mean thats so deep, yet so simple.
I have defiantly wrote it down for future references.

Ahhh.....ya like that one huh? ...My own..(could be in some text somewhere, but, not to my knowledge....)

Changed my own life......made me more self aware....more honest......we're all insignificant in the world whether we realize it or not (helps more if we do realize it ..) We all have a place....and, it's not only us which determines that place.....etc, etc (I almost got started on that ...)

We're all what we are....nothing more, nothing less......not necessarily the same tomorrow...and, all could use some improvement somewhere, for something......

And although not your thread, you did contribute quite a bit

And thank you for allowing me to.......

And like you said you'll get the nay sayers but do they practice what they preach hmmm.

Well..."naysayers" broad term and encompass a lot of different kinds of people....some even with good intentions actually..(not here , but, in life....) Lot of different views..(some out of jealousy, some out of perceived knowledge...some out of genuine concern, etc...)

Funny example: My family tried to tell me yesterday maybe I shouldn't trade, and "just put all your money in some mutual funds" ...of course, I did explain to them I can provide them documentation/brokerage records that last year I did 388% YTD.....That everything I spend...are trading profits, and, that's fine (put all in mutual funds), but, then, I would be spending what I make, and have money lying dormant at 3-4-5% when I could be making 90%+ per quarter...........ie: Keep and increase principle, and live off profits........instead of sitting and spending, etc....

Of course......they stated this out of concern and "in my best interest" .....

They also found that idea less attractive when I explained that all the money they get, comes from my trades........ie: no trades....80% less for family)......

Intention was there though...

Naysayers all shapes and forms..some good intentions...some bad....some out of concern...some out of jealousy.........some strangers...some even your own blood.......

Have always been around...will always be....key is basically just to take with a grain of salt..(my rule in life is I tend to give more weight to those better off than me, who have done what I want, and, less weight to those who are less well off than I, and, have never done or even any exposure to what I do and want.......)

Well I wish you the best of luck in whatever life throws to you, i truly do, hats off to you my friend. Last season or not continue rockin man!

Thank you......and same to you.,....

Well........lot of people consider what one does who they are.......that if one ceases something, then one is not such...(anything...work, business, etc.......hobby....arts...etc...)

I personally think it's in the soul.......you are what you are......and, to deny it merely creates unrest internally.......which won't subside until one does again .....

(I'm in the music thing....which is a good example....I see old friends...musicians....they "quit and got a real job"..........and, what I tell em is basically "you can't quit what you are.....just cause you don't do it...doesn't mean that's not who you are.........you don't do things for money...you do because you enjoy it...are good at it....and love it.....and, maybe along the way, you make some money, maybe you don't....but, I've found firsthand....to deny oneself such.....the soul doesn't rest ...)

ie: I know quite a few extremely talented guys that basically stopped in general because they didn't "make it big"...(and, it's funny because quite a few came closer than I ever have.........like..on the ****in doorstep with a single failure.....(Every artist anyone knows has had such.....it happens...bad reviews...poor sales figures on a release......getting thrown off a tour........it happens....what can ya do......)

Last season?.....for now....quite possibly....

Forever? ......I highly doubt it ....

(I say that on every one...or at least every other one ....)

Truth is can't......I grow.....what I do...like...enjoy...love...money or not....(money is secondary....I couldn't give a ****....would do the same thing if only reimbursed for my time for fun.......(not for free....I do have a life, family, business's, etc....)...my time isn't free....

I think everyone should take breaks though....clears the mind......sleep a little better....new ideas....new strategies.......throw others off track ....

Too risky not to take breaks if you ask me..........you charge ahead without stopping to look around.....mistakes happen, and, this game...a "mistake" is loosing everything....

Edit: Plus........"breaks" allow one to accumulate enormous amounts of supplies in comfort ..(because your always going to use it .....)

Materials for 5-10,000 not an easy task(at least safely)........takes a while (at least for me...)...I've put 2+/- yrs into planning on big ones.....the late/AF project discussed...already 3+/- now ....(waiting for good strain, right place, right time, etc......)

Right now?.....I might be planning things that I might not do until 5 yrs from now ....10? .......always something in the works....can always use an extra $_______________ ...

Note: Of course also of the school any spot should not be worked indefinitely.....indoor or out.....great spot out?...you take a break...ensure it's longevity.....great spot in?...the same......always switch it around...always change it up.....

See...in my world........anything else is called "milking it dry".......and once used up....and milked.....that's it...no more period.....something can happen to make it impossible to use forever....or worse, a bust...so...better to proceed slowly and surely on everything one does....("big picture".....future......long term.........today is just today....)

(See, for me...little different...have done enough, enough times, enough places where I can do a quick set up and execution on a moments notice, but, only because the above and have planned it out already...so...then supplies only issue, and, of course, I always have some on hand.....so...and, proper means to procure such items safely.....so.....Sure....might appear as though "spur of moment", but, have done similar and planned it out far in advance......so...execution not a big deal....)

In any case, thank you for kind words...always sincerely humbled.....

 

[InjectTruth]

Is there anyway to search within this thread, short of clicking on each page and clicking ctrl+f?

I remember you saying you aim for 200 clones from each of your mothers. Are these all tops and side branches? or are there some odd clones (no top, just a piece of stalk with a leaf and small shoot) in the mix? Any further info on your prep setup would be great.

 

[Julian]

Should be early on...maybe pg 2-4 or so..(depends....I have it set up to max, so, whole thread to me only 20 pages or something...)

For out?...prep very simple...just lights and trays...etc...

Moms go about 60 days,topped/fimmed...3-4ft bushes, tightly spaced cause come down shortly...I basically cut them down into nothing...ie: take plant, trays, plugs, when done, toss anything left in garbage, etc...so, to me...not really "moms" in the truest sense of the word......ie: specific individuals selected for specific characteristics, etc, etc....maybe some pics in 1st post of clones ready to go/go out, etc..

Edit: Yeah, I checked....between 1st post and then in like..post 50 or so? (first 2 pages....) Out different...very simple...I can take a completely empty space and have a batch ready to go out in about a week...(one day to set up, soak/germ while setting up, prep, fill pots, etc, trays.....plant, lights...ready to go..(earlier rounds I like larger, more established so about 2 weeks..later rounds asap so I do a week (middle of thread....thread was started after I was well into it....so....a lot missed...did what I could with what I had at the time....(pics from that point on, etc...) Last handle had great prep shots..(4-500 1 footers each room, etc....was already...what?......thread started July 1st more or less....started about May 1st, so.....already 2 months in when I started thread...)

Yeah, as elsewhere......with last veg center....could only get maybe 1,000 max (1 footers) at a time, but, smaller/late, much more (4k at a time?..) so, key is just repetition.....(1k a week, week in week out, adds up ....)

But, as earlier....first rounds I go heavy.....then go light, then, if mini, go heavy again (numbers)..like to get "what I need" in first...then relax the pace a little depending on what's on my plate and plans, but, those change all the time in summer...so.....

All in first post though......numbers dictated by what containers I use..(pics also..)...peat pellets can get shitloads..(4k 2 rooms a week?..) larger the container, the smaller the number for prep.....when I do fewer and shoot for fewer, larger, I go with the 6"'ers for the earliest/first rounds sometimes also (can get them out 2ft in late April/early May, etc....) All depends on what I'm doing, the goal, etc, etc....

Not sure what total was this season.......no clue, but, must have been maybe 8-9k?....really no clue..had the large one, my city ones, then a lot of smaller ones that kept popping up the farther I went into season...(it happens...I know you, sit down, we talk, you have an interest?...I'll have an batch ready to go, planted, and detailed instructions for you in a week ..

(People have to remember about numbers....I'm spreading it out in the end to god knows how many people...so........my end total that I pocket nowhere near the total done...ya know?

Additional note....
I don't necessarily do only clones, nor necessarily only seed....first post brother ....all depends on project.....all depends.....(on what?...on everything....on season, on stock on hand, on shipments, on loss of shipments, on what's already on hand, etc, etc...all depends...I prefer fem seed though......)

all in first post....

C'monnnnn guys....read thread man writing it alone?...you know how many new ideas I got from it? ...

Anyone can have any impression they like, but, the true motive throughout was basically trying to change people's views of exactly what "a season" is, and what it represents ...the possibilities.....a different view and approach to it, etc...ie: ****....you could start late July and still pull any yield you like....

"Season" is a long, long, long time..(****...for me, this yr was forever )

Another edit: Yeah...earlier in thread in depth, but, eh, I don't like clones really...sure, saves some money, etc...but, adds on a lot of time and a lot of risk....ie: seed I can have a batch ready to go within 2 weeks from nothing...if doing clones....add's on months in advance..ya know?... prep time......sometimes I "feel it"...other times, not (this year was not "feeling it" until like...****...almost April probably ......ie: Last year a long, hard year...didn't finish up until Jan...then, in Jan, had things going...so,not even a ****in single day off from one season to next/end of this one..........I'm ****in beat man.......looking forward to a little rest.......relaxation...reflection.....etc

Edit: I'm confused now (between last 3 runs/seasons........last year and one before was zero break...this year started later than usual.....(not Jan with moms.....I think ............I'm going to have to ask my partner....Last year was problems with receiving stock, so gangstered some moms (BOG) destined for an in (in delayed, was a mess....).....ran clones, etc....year before was a lot of fem seed, but also clones.......I'm lost now actually....last 3 seasons not easy on me....... physically or mentally...

Last statements quite significant actually..(to someone wanting to do more, run more, etc....) not just a season...prep, finishing?....**** man...your talking 12 months....year round always working on something...from trimming and drying to starting next rounds...or, even starting next rounds while still trimming, drying, etc........No breaks man when you run full force....no ****in breaks, and, if you get one...****in lucky to have it ....

I told someone yesterday...planning a 5-10k for May[/I]?......your already behind schedule

(I usually start planning next round when this one going in......ie: so....May 07'...I was running through May 08' in my mind already, orders, extra stuff, etc......which a lot got used when we ran out, so, now more, etc, etc......)

 

[marto]

Hey man, 388% is friggin awesome, congrats. Whats your trading style: swing? day? charts? fundamentals? At 388 i suspect you were on the recieving end of alot of pump and dumps. I lost a shitload when i got involved in a couple of pinksheet companies that turned out to be boilerroom operations. Sad part was i was up about 500% but then road them all the way back down. But i'm sure you would agree that their is good money to be made even on fictitous companies but ya gotta know when to hold and fold. Kinda like growing: takes discipline, cant get greedy, must know limitations.

 

[Julian]

Hey man, 388% is friggin awesome, congrats. Whats your trading style: swing? day? charts? fundamentals? At 388 i suspect you were on the recieving end of alot of pump and dumps. I lost a shitload when i got involved in a couple of pinksheet companies that turned out to be boilerroom operations. Sad part was i was up about 500% but then road them all the way back down. But i'm sure you would agree that their is good money to be made even on fictitous companies but ya gotta know when to hold and fold. Kinda like growing: takes discipline, cant get greedy, must know limitations.

Nah, that's just straight man.......and, Thanks...quite happy, proud of my performance....have a few things here and there for a book if I can rack up a bunch more years..(just strengthens book more, etc....)

But, you have to keep in mind, that's every second, or every trading day...all year,so...lot of moves....

No...I just play what's moving...sometimes long, sometimes shorts, sometimes 20 trades a day..sometimes 1 a week, etc...I play what's moving, all depends..(I do real time JCA with fast and slow stochastics matched with volume and open trades I watch in 3-5-15-30-60 minutes (15,30,and 60 on 10-20 days) and then daily for 60-90-180, and, also weekly and monthlies( all on each open trade...)

That's why I kind of do what I do with business's......(what...going to go and sit in an office all day waiting for a problem which might never come???? They can call if something wrong...Not my primary income but a lot of the time it just ends up that way........something I truly love........would be happiest if could just trade and nothing else (well, trade and jam......would be fine...) Lot of the time not even worth it...(to "work"...I make more this way ......)

I could write more on trading than here easy , but......mostly I just train people who are currently trading and just improve them, etc, etc...very dangerous business for people who aren't good at it......

Yeah man...I honestly didn't even know until was talking about it, and, went and looked it up.....(ideally, I never touch any money....and only spend what I make.....ie: I make 100 (business, etc), but, 25k in bills next month...try to just trade the 25k, etc, so, I try to never touch principle for anything, etc.....

See, returns man misunderstood and a little misleading..(for example: Let's say you have something starts out in Jan at 10...your in...Okay, finishes Dec at 20.......100%, and, if on margin, automatically 200% (I am always 100% margin also)

Okay,...but, of course, during the year.....trends up, down, etc...so....if you play something on a consistent basis and have a handle....your easily at 400+..........Hard work any way you slice it (I'm looking at charts for following day at 3-4am, etc....), but...I like it.."easy money" for me......(Did for many years, and, learned the hard way wasn't always good...so.......every trading day of the last 7-8 yrs to get to this point....

I just play what's moving.....lately a lot of AMD (the minute I saw recent drop I was on it...I go for anything with sudden and huge movement...always quick money in those (due to inevitable corrections when such occurs.....)

Depends though....sometimes I pull back and watch...but, I watch quite a few simultaneously (all real time as above), so...if something not moving, unsure...I sit back and jump to something else until direction established and then move again, etc......)

For me?...just "one of those things"...that I "get".....(the discipline is the hardest thing.........) But...I like it and fills gaps in income (ie: "multiple income streams" as earlier in thread.....so...(and , then, sometimes, get a little burned out and stressed out and drop back altogether..just hang..keep an eye...still pay attention and watch even when not trading...looking, waiting for a trade, etc......(I only do "guaranteed" trades.........if not 100% certain?...Not moving for the most part.....also checked my mistakes last year....was like....27 whole year....meaning got in, wrong decision, got out.....

Anyway ...yeah.....topic I could go on forever about......angles endless......(all should keep in mind all taxable also, so...not as much as seems right off the bat....still taxable....so...automatically cuts the **** out of it up front.....)

A topic though not to visit....I try to never discuss it unless with active traders.......very risky...very serious......

People talk about "making money".....In markets, you don't "make" shit....

You lose a dime it's because I took it from you....

and vs. versa.....

No one "looses" anything ......(What I always tell people I train....come tomorrow morning....I'm taking your money...are you prepared?



Yeah man...trading........my ****in life...every minute, of every day.....waiting for tomorrow

Talk about addictions .....****........There's one ...

Even passive investors....I see more people buy into things at the top......just crazy...(then lose...if you sell...well, then you really lost...if you stay in, a potential chance to catch up, but, can go either way depending on what and where, etc....)Even passive investors..long term should get in at right points......if not?.....****....wait...relax...be patient....all about patience......like hunting .....(I'm against hunting animals btw...all associates and friends do...I don't...not for me....not an animal....no...)

Anyway...yeah, same as gold discussions...."buy gold"...yeah, sure...buy at wrong level and could wait 25 yrs for it to reach the same again (last time gold was this level was around 80'.....means anyone holding lost up to 70%+/- on investment and took them 25yrs to break even...(I hit gold heavy when dipped under n300...got out this year when it got into high 6's/around 7........then, out, and, don't care if going up...I made my move and will wait it out..........

Yeah....obviously a subject that I can get carried away.....but, definitely not for public discussion.......(I train like....pros....so......lately...tend to discuss less with new people....just too risky....)

 

[Julian]

Uh oh...hard to stop, but, some extra notes.....

This is an example of my real time I use essentially the same, but, real time of course and with volume...MACD on one, but, not the real time (but, I check for reference when in question)...

Now, JCA, as one can see from the chart, is absurdly accurate, every single one for the most part (daily symbol) means something...so.....since adopting it....swear by it and essentially now pretty ****in accurate.....damn near 100% for the most part.....

One doesn't have to be a guru to take a look and clearly see how effective they can be (JCA charting).......really changed my performance......made it easier to sleep.....more accurate....etc......

(Every symbol/day means something.....was originally developed by rice traders in Japan 17th century I believe....still utilized, but, by very few...and, again, as anyone can plainly see....the most accurate and descriptive charting one will ever see.........really changed my entire performance..(couple years ago......)

(If I recall correctly....traders were eventually assassinated and their properties and land seized because they became wealthier than the emperor ...)

Lot of books on it but I only recommend one (I've read about 600 on trading, analysis, etc...all a waste of time....all a waste......)

Anyway...though just a quick example....not a subject I want to pursue (because will never end )

Yeah man...I ****in live for trading........

 

[marto]

whats the one book youd recomend julian

 

[Julian]

Well, one thing must be clear.....there are many, many books on subject....but, the reason I recommend this one is truly easy reading (others serious, larger, technical textbooks..at least for me......) Truly a child can read through and by the end possess a greater understanding of actual movement than most "veterans"....(not an exaggeration....at all....) But, again...trading?......Same as above.....either one "has it"...or, they don't..(one of reasons I tend to work more with current/veteran traders.......knowledge, experience, etc.....it's kind of hard for some to "get the hang of"......(again.....either people take to it and do well or lose and never come back...)

Anyway,Here is that book.To an active trader? If learned? Implemented? The different/improvement beyond measure.....

(Essentially, upon reading, one would be able to decipher the above chart, day by day and what all meant......The above chart..one will note reversals, up and down, and, will note each is represented by symbols/days.....those specific indicators let one know investor psychology that day....

See......many things show one what the market is doing....(which does one little good with predictions into future.....)

JCA shows you what the market is thinking ...

(For example...a specific symbol/day might mean that bulls took control, but, bears took over and bulls couldn't maintain support....ie: bears have control ....vs. versa...etc...

Also extremely useful when talking levels of established (and not) support and resistance, etc, etc (which really dictates everything to start with...support and resistance....ie: something falls to 10......does not proceed and you have a reversal...of course that means "support established at 10".....now your looking for next level of resistance, and so on and so on....

anyway...here I go again

Anyway....I give that book as gifts to those closest and dearest to me.......to change their lives....so........really.......enough cannot be said about what it contains......truly changed my life personally......Will trade the rest of my life......

I would say someone who trades and makes 50k a yr...after a couple reads.....some checking charts...couple more reads, etc...slowly getting into it........they'd become a 150-250+ a yr trader....(and then no limit.....)

Edit: All depends what one is working with, and , how much time can dedicate...attention, etc...ie: 200% a yr doesn't sound so much if only trading 2k .....right?....so...you know.....same person trading 100k.....they're into a new house and car....same person trading 500k...well...they're doing well , etc........1% a day....sounds great...but, of 2k?...eh..(and then we get into SEC rules and regs and such anyway regarding margin and day trading status and such things, so...of course....ideally 30k+...(as unlimited round trips without any call issues or round trip limitations, etc......

 

[Julian]

Good example in chart above if aggressive what is possible...

In last 90 days or so (single quarter), if one shorted at the weakness and then played the reversal aggressively...there's almost 200% in last quarter alone....

Lot of money there for the asking for people who know what they are doing and serious discipline.....(I mean serious...took me years to be so hardcore.....)

We're talking hardcore......lot of people be glad to strip you of everything you own, throw you on the street and laugh about it.....(without ever giving it a second thought.....)

Drugs? .......

This a whole different ballgame ..

Most (majority) "loose" due to hopes....."hoping" something will "go their way"....

Simple rule: If it's going up, it's going up, if down, then down......people have a problem with realizing they were wrong and dumping quick...........psychological issues........If your wrong, your wrong....control any loss and move on...period........

 

[3BM]

Sup J,

Just wanted to stop in a say hi
Great reading as always!

Another day of building an army of horticultural millionaires eh?

 

[Julian]

Sup J,

Sup brother.....

Just wanted to stop in a say hi

How's your world man..

Great reading as always!

Just talking man........humbled and flattered...very kind of you to say....

Just doin my part.......

Another day of building an army of horticultural millionaires eh?

Nah....that would make one a true enemy of the state.....

 

[Guest]

sad to see this season coming to and end.............though its just a beginning for the next one (a beginning starting with planning that started midway throug htis summer.

you mentioned gold.............i forgot i had money in there.....also got in...i think near either 225 or 310, can't remember. Anyway, on my limited budget i might be moving over a few Ounces of the shiny stuff so i can make several pounds of green sticky stuff by the end of next summer

When i have more time to dedicate to it i might look into trading a little more.....but only once i can really concentrate.

hope most of your stuff got in (and back out) safely Julian

 

[Julian]

sad to see this season coming to and end.............though its just a beginning for the next one (a beginning starting with planning that started midway throug htis summer.

Even worse turning back the clocks.....I only get a couple hrs sleep as it is (sober or not ...I really, really needed that hour )

Well......yeah....I miss it already tremendously....but....kind of glad it's over in general...ya know? .....(needed a break....way too much going on....was spread thin as it is and tail end found it really bad...busy....exhausted..etc.....)

Sure a lot of people just finishing up now and maybe more still a while to go depending on locale and strains, etc.....

Still wish the best to all.........

(But, bright side is extra effort spend on season can now be channeled less strenuously towards future things .....)

you mentioned gold.............i forgot i had money in there.....also got in...i think near either 225 or 310, can't remember.

Was probably the latter.....don't think it got down that low...(not sure.....but, think 250's was lowest around that time.......)

Kind of related to the above, trading same things, etc, etc....when you do the same thing for many, many years...you start to "know" it, and, "get a feel" for what are good levels, etc....."deals", etc, etc.....

Precious metals and such are definitely long term things, etc (depending on where you get in.....but, should be watched long term).....think I was reading somewhere touched much higher level this week (750?)

Anyway, on my limited budget i might be moving over a few Ounces of the shiny stuff so i can make several pounds of green sticky stuff by the end of next summer

Well, I'm more cautious and bearish than most.......ie: will it go higher?...Maybe.......but then will it go lower?...quite possibly.....so.....I cashed in......not going to lose whatever already made for a little more (possibly) in future...etc...

Would not be unwise for people with anything extra they don't use to cash in....(jewelry, etc....lot of people have thing with no sentimental value they don't use anymore, don't wear, etc....) You have to keep an eye on it.....At this point I really am not.........I figure I'll get back to it again sometime in the future, and, I don't really check it right now..but, in passing I see new quotes every now and then to give me an idea.......)

Using to make money not a bad idea.....(This weekend I ha the pleasure of several/many people trying to tell me what to do with money ......I make money with my money ...That's what it's for, for me .....(people who see a little money and make plans what to do with it make me nervous.......very nervous....and, realistically....most people who aren't well off do the same....ie: They get a little, think about getting a little and all they have is a shopping list......addressed earlier in thread......Okay, fine, spend all, and then what?...and then you have things which will be cheaper 6 months down the road....you have things that probably just created more expenses for you anyway, and, you have no money to make more..........

So your right back where you were before you got it....just with more "stuff"...

Hope everyone seeing some money sits down, thinks about it, and, is smart about it......

Can get into properties, business's, can improve current properties...education, etc, etc...100 things one can do which will triple it long term ...

(That's like me and the trading....anything I make is not what I make because I start trading it before I take a penny out.....so becomes double what I made in the first place....so..........)

When i have more time to dedicate to it i might look into trading a little more.....but only once i can really concentrate.

Well "trading" aggressively not for someone with no exposure......and, for people who invest long term?.....they can still be more effective...(ie: as above...instead of buying something today....why not establish whether it should be bought in the first place and if not a good level, then wait a little bit until it is and then you know once in you can relax.......a good long term position......People asl me all the time (like, everyone...all the time.....) "Should I get into this, can you check this for me...what about this", etc,.....and, 90% of the time my answer (after checking charts if I have the time is "Where did you hear that...it's at a high......just lay bak a while (or, if something good, I tell them "Nah...**** that, buy into XX today, etc...I'll tell you when to get out....."

(Which I don't do tooooo often because I am always on top of everything....so.........I could tell them dump something tomorrow at 9am and they might not be able to, get message, have access to until Tuesday, etc.....

Anyway...yeah.......trading, investing....eh, a whole nother story.....

hope most of your stuff got in (and back out) safely Julian

Thank you man......yeah, all and all okay........few problems...some above....some never above, etc...but, overall, eh...not a bad season all in all.......not bad at all......still took a lot out of me and still could use some extra sleep for a while....maybe further into winter....

The same to all who haven't already.......

****....I'm ready to go on the next one today Have to find a new large out though.....have been talking to a new partner somewhere else though...(300 miles a different direction from other.....) thinking about in's...etc (****, I could have whatever ready to go in 2 weeks )



Edit: Whatever, wherever next one is.....definitely looking forward to it, and, what I plan to run...(some years I run what I want, some years go for yield, some years larger, some years smaller, etc.....)...Next one should be a nice one..(BOG, Pink lemon stuff, some Straw Diesel (to check the hype), found some DC (RWSC DC), some other stuff.(and then the PP's and Marocs again..), then try some AF's also, etc....Don't think those giants in my immediate future until I have a spot which I feel is safe to do so......so...if next one quick...might just be doing AF's early and then others late, etc......(which might be nice actually.....plant early may....kick back.......bring in a batch and then start next/last one....I like to enjoy my summers like everyone else ....so...this year had even less time than usually ..(cause I planted entire season and moved straight from planting to harvesting (almost same week switched over...Marocs started coming in first week August,FMS PP's around the same....so, literally moved from planting one week (doing last mini rounds...)to starting harvesting the same week...

 

[tripples]

julian are you the one who snagged all 8 or so packs of those dc's?? knew i shoulda got a couple packs.. but ive over extended my resources already for next year.. still have a lot of other shit i need so.. i guess its better for now.. ill just have to wait till htc gets back on the market.. glad someone decent got a hold of those tho..

 

[Julian]

nah man....actually.....I grabbed em while browsing....then, thought I should go back and grab em all, and, they were gone...so, think only a pack or two at most....(so that, of course, on a project/operations note, automatically dictates any done in future of those will be clones, regardless of project, etc, as only a couple, etc...etc...) If I could have gotten maybe all (100, etc), would maybe run them and then assume a little seed if I let them go...but...a pack or 2?....nah...those become all clones, so...(but bright side is say 5 fems, assume 50/50.....can shave em into 1,000 if enough veg....more or less, so.....) Wouldn't mind doing 1,000 each (Straw D, BOG SB, DC, Pink lemon, PP, Marocs...) I'd be happy with that......but, at this second would have to be clones because not enough stock to do that (straw d no more than 100...BOG ended up with about 100 (but, those are pre sexed, so....)...So....would have to have at least 5 large mothers of each.(but, then, have to run more to sex them, etc, and, also allow for any runts, mutants, etc...so...)......Maroc and PP would just do from seed....(I don't like cloning...do it well, 100% every time, but,all that lead time and growing mothers out is a PITA (to me...have to secure spot for veg, have to start, risk because something going somewhere, etc.....I like seed better and yields always seem to be better from seed also to a degree........yeah...get a location......50 mothers (3-4feet) for 3 months or so in advance?....eh.......I'd rather not when at all possible....so, that's why I prefer just seed....(seed my turnaround time is 2 weeks for early, 1 for late...so....)

(I know, I know...cost.....well, see , the way I look at it....is that cost is essentially buying me those 3-4 months clean ....with money I would save on the rental for those 4 months ......so...all comes out one way or another ....

 

[vod]

Took me a couple solid days to read through the whole thread.
Got almost obsessive at certain point.
But I did catch up sooner than I thought

Very inspiring read. Thank you all.

Isn't it funny how much here on IC growing weed is made into some branch of mistical/scientific/technical secret knowledge/lore/art?

I liked this thread very much. Shame I can't find the indoor version of it. (but i didn't look very hard )

 

[Julian]

Took me a couple solid days to read through the whole thread.

Sorry.............just ended up that way

Got almost obsessive at certain point.

I do sometimes, I know

Very inspiring read. Thank you all.

Kind of you to say....glad of interest.....

Isn't it funny how much here on IC growing weed is made into some branch of mistical/scientific/technical secret knowledge/lore/art?

click....... (sound of one of my buttons being pushed )

Comes out of many things......for some, a regional issue, for others, a personal issue ....

Most seem to agree across the board with the "either your made for it, or not".....

Both sides to it, but, my view in general is: Is it simple? yeah, if you know what your doing.....so...both sides are contained in that.....

I dunno....I don't find anything difficult about it, never have....so.....lucky?....."I get it"....I dunno.......

I think it is more interesting than funny

I liked this thread very much. Shame I can't find the indoor version of it. (but i didn't look very hard )

Thank you....very kind of you to say.....glad something of interest....something of use.....

First paragraph or so...link to it first paragraph, first post, first page.......

(You didn't miss the links too, did you? Indoor got a little ****ed up with handles and posts gone, etc.....)

 

[GorillaGrower]

hey. julian.. there's one thing I wanted to ask you... how the hell do you edit your posts to make to make something you say be a link like if i said ------click here---- and it actually linked you instead of being lame.

your like an arTist w the master thread work