Valerian bloom extract as bloom stimulator?

[chilliwilli]

I wonder if valerian flower extract could be usefull for bloom.
Only found german info but on one homepage they claim that u can induce flowering in cactus early, when used in normal dosage at pumpkin they kill their selfe by producing too much flower and with general use in gardening more flower also on species who else wont flower appropriate. They where very specific to use only flower not stem, leaf or root for the extract.

Is anyone using valerian flower extract as a bloom boost?

 

[chilliwilli]

D'oh wrong title
If a mod could please change the titel to:

Valerian bloom extract as bloom stimulator?

That would be nice.

Thx chilliwilli

 

[St. Phatty]

if you look up Biodynamic compost, I think Valerian tea is one of the magic ingredients.

 

[chilliwilli]

Thx CosmicGiggles

 

[Veggia farmer]

Thats totally right St.Phatty.

I got really interested here. It grows naturally on the farm here.

 

[chilliwilli]

When i got it right its the bloom hormones from the valerian flowers that does the trick.

Only flowers(cut stems from clusters) are used and extraxted with rainwater for 1-2 days. Either before or after the time its mixed with a blender afterwards strained through cloth. Best outdoor because of the smell. Can be stored in bottles in cold for a year.

Got the pic from a german homepage. Early spring at 15 drops per liter or september for winter blooming cactus. Don't know one thing about cactus but the flowers look big.

 

[Veggia farmer]

Nice, should put this on the will try in 2021 list. Look forward to it.

You got a link to the german homepage btw?

 

[chilliwilli]

Here you go.

Neudorff baldrian extract

 

[bleepboop]

Might pop a couple of teabags in rainwater for a cold brew, perhaps with some kombucha to make it shelf stable. Getting straight flowers might be a tricky one this time of year.

 

[chilliwilli]

Yeah think kombucha could help. I also think that flowers and water on their own start to lacto ferment and be stable.

 

[chilliwilli]

if you look up Biodynamic compost, I think Valerian tea is one of the magic ingredients.

Yeah steiner is mentioned often when talked about valerian. Read part of a diploma paper where they tested the p uptake in oats and lupin but got no significant relation. But a lot of nice things to look up is in the literature survey about biodynamic. Think foilar application on fruit trees to enhance flowering was one but not always reproducable. But only german sorry

https://www.saatgut-forschung.de/publikationen/biologisch-dynamische-pr%C3%A4parate/

 

[h.h.]

I’m not sure what you’re trying to enhance.

 

[bleepboop]

Yeah think kombucha could help. I also think that flowers and water on their own start to lacto ferment and be stable.

The teabags seem all root but there's a few witches selling the flowers on etsy of all places ?

 

[chilliwilli]

Gardening supplies maybe also sell the extract.
In europe neudorff sells an flower extract that u get in every bigger gardening shop

 

[chilliwilli]

Was reading the swiss forum the last days and some people use it to speed up flowering. But the claims are inconsistend. A lot of people use it when first pistills appeare to speed up flowering at ~3-5% solution for 2 weeks as foilar. Some claim no difference when used other would use it more often if the extract was not that expensive when bought. Outdoors one claimed that the plant that showed last preflowers was finished first after foilar application for some weeks. Some start foilar application at middle/end of july .

Think i gonna start a side by side when i have space in my growroom. Get some known clones and try foilar, foilar+watering and controll

 

[bleepboop]

Made it today, 2 grams of dried valerian flowers from an Etsy Wicca enthusiast infused in just under a litre of overdone sencha/moringa kombucha vinegar.
Will leave it for a couple of weeks before a first go but that much should last for ages.
There's two Red Snake (Oaxacan X Punto Rojo) just shown sex, will try a mild foliar on one.

 

[chilliwilli]

Thx man
In my country the shops are slowly working so i try to get some of the neudorff stuff.

 

[BarrieButsers]

Hey @chilliwilli , just out of curiosity, did you ever get around to trying the valerian extract? I'm currently using the Neudroff stuff as a foliar spray for the first time.

 

[chilliwilli]

Thx @BarrieButsers
No i totally neglected this topic. I still have the neudorff stuff but was to lazy to make a side by side grow.
Do u see a positive effect so far? Thx

 

[chilliwilli]

Made it today, 2 grams of dried valerian flowers from an Etsy Wicca enthusiast infused in just under a litre of overdone sencha/moringa kombucha vinegar.
Will leave it for a couple of weeks before a first go but that much should last for ages.
There's two Red Snake (Oaxacan X Punto Rojo) just shown sex, will try a mild foliar on one.

Hi @bleepboop have u tried your brew? Saw any difference with your redsnake plants?