How i usually smoke weed

[Plookerkingjon]

The arresting officers when I got hemmed up for growing luckily didn't look into my ass crack and I ended up with a half ounce of really good flowers in my unit for the month and a half but I was there before I went to court, talk about creative ways of being discreet to not blow the unit up full of pot smoke I could tell some stories on that laughing out loud

 

[Jellyfish]

Bottom line here, lungs were meant to breath oxygen <--- period. Anything else is only inviting trouble and, sorry no, one does not have to be a rocket scientist to figure it out. I've been a vaper since 2010. I smoked for 33yrs. Vaping is merely a "safer" alternative to smoking (for those who can't quit). Read not a safe way. Combusting anything and breathing is not a good thing.

How can you just state that as FACT? Again I ask, where are all the people who have died or gotten sick from smoking weed?

I flatly disagree that vaping is safer than smoking. If you want to change my mind, please provide some proof, otherwise you're just, haha, blowing smoke. Or maybe you're vaping vapor. See what I did there?

I'm not trying to be the 'get off my lawn' old dude, but gotdammit, I get so sick of people saying it's somehow self-apparent that vaping is safer than smoking. Prove it! People have been smoking weed for centuries, but vaping has only been around for, what, forty years?

 

[chilliwilli]

As far as i know it would be better to say vaping is a less harmfull alternative for smoking. Less harmfull is still harmfull.
Most info out there is for e cig and liquids. There are some reactions in your body like more white blood cell as if your body is fighting an infection. I can't find the info now but iirc the leucocytes are also more active in the lung tissue when u vape. For me less bad than smoking but still not good for the lungs.

 

[Switcher56]

Sure looks like a great way to puff. Is it easier to clean than a regular pipe? Or does that filter mean more will be deposited in the pipe, before the filter? Is it a simple foam filter, or a new type with activated charcoal layer?

I guess it all depends how lazy you are I guess (no pun intended), stoners aren't known for cleaning their gear LOL.

After 4 sessions, I simply toss the stick in a metal doobie tube 1/2 filled with alcohol and shake it a few times, let it rest and shake again. Comes out clean as a whistle, rinse with clean H2O and let it dry. It would be better to own two. I don't have a need for that. If you keep it clean it is a mere inconvenience. e.g once a day.

The filter is made of cotton not cellulose.

You saw my latest on the fire. If we are in our home in June '23, that's a year and a half without growing, then tack on an extra 6m for the cure. My strains aren't available at the NSLC let alone trying to find 'em on the BM or the dispensaries. I had to find alternative strains (terpene based) to tied me over while protecting (rationing as best I can) my normal weekly rotation. My main stash is in a storage locker, and ready use supply here. We had to sign the occupancy waiver. Absolutely, no smoking, vaping or cannabis use on the premises.

Since I tossed the PM under the bus (not proud of that), a man is gotta do what a man has got to do. Stress has played havoc on my AIC since the beginning (cortisol production). I had brought it under control. The last month has been bad (all over the map). 5.9 yesterday and 6.1 this am. I could feel the weight lifted off my chest. That is why folks say, get it off your chest, which I stated after the end of the meeting. I think the straw that sunk the deal was... He his representing your coy. Is this the way you wish your coy to be portrayed as? He couldn't disagree. I said exactly. Sometimes you have to wack a few peepees to get their attention which we did.

I fall into the <1% category when it comes to prescribed medication. e.g losing the use of my legs after 5 weeks on Crestor. 3 days off the meds and my legs were fine, or the "fucking pill" we had to take during GW1, which caused the early onset of dementia. I wasn't the only one. A young seaman that sailed with me stated, age had nothing to do with short term memory loss. I served with you, I am 26, I was 18 at the time. I was 34 at the time and 42 when I had that convo.

I am 66 with a high PIDGAF factor, knowing where I am headed, and considering where we (the world) is heading. Once my wife is in our new home and settled in, a la George dubya, "mission accomplished". Come take me now.

 

[Switcher56]

As far as i know it would be better to say vaping is a less harmfull alternative for smoking. Less harmfull is still harmfull.
Most info out there is for e cig and liquids. There are some reactions in your body like more white blood cell as if your body is fighting an infection. I can't find the info now but iirc the leucocytes are also more active in the lung tissue when u vape. For me less bad than smoking but still not good for the lungs.

It is called THR or tobacco harm reduction. It is not a cure, but, even like you say it is less harmful and that is all we (vapers) have always propagated.

 

[Jellyfish]

As far as i know it would be better to say vaping is a less harmfull alternative for smoking.

What PROOF is there that vaping cannabis is less harmful than smoking cannabis?

 

[exploziv]

Come on, not having all those combustion compounds in there is really nice compared to vaping some liquids that are approved to be used even in food or medication. To have any real proof on that you need to wait till some tens of years pass, and the generation that switched to vaping dies or not of vaping related causes, altrough studies on how pg and vg are metabolised exist if you want to have a rough ideea.
Also, less harmful doesn't mean it's safe, just safer..
If I wanted to inhale nicotine on the go, I would for sure chose vaping, rather than smoking it.
Personally, I would try to grow my own, tabacco is known to be full of additives that don't help with users health either. Then a normal hot air vape can be used, so no need for a liquid carrier like VG. That's probably the safest way to consume tabacco.

 

[chilliwilli]

What PROOF is there that vaping cannabis is less harmful than smoking cannabis?

I don't have a proof but i have my experience with smoking and vaping. Thats enough for me to assume it's less harmfull because i have less side effects.
Smoke is most combustion products with little cannabinoides and terps. Vape is most cannabinoides and terps. Imo thats enought to be less harmefull because those combustion products is what harms u. For cigaretts it was always you stay because of the nicotine but u die from the tar.
Vaping produces also less fine dust imo because u don't break down the plant material.

 

[Switcher56]

Come on, not having all those combustion compounds in there is really nice compared to vaping some liquids that are approved to be used even in food or medication. To have any real proof on that you need to wait till some tens of years pass, and the generation that switched to vaping dies or not of vaping related causes, altrough studies on how pg and vg are metabolised exist if you want to have a rough ideea.
Also, less harmful doesn't mean it's safe, just safer..
If I wanted to inhale nicotine on the go, I would for sure chose vaping, rather than smoking it.
Personally, I would try to grow my own, tabacco is known to be full of additives that don't help with users health either. Then a normal hot air vape can be used, so no need for a liquid carrier like VG. That's probably the safest way to consume tabacco.

Bang on!

2013, we had a town hall on vaping. As a vendor I was invited to be a speaker and they wanted to know my topic and which side I represented. A lot of negative energy in that room. Short strokes...

We knew we were successful because this is how the CEO/president of the NS Lung Association stated

"It has been clearly indicated that vaping falls under THR, and from that position
as the leader of this association, I must embrace it on face value.
For those who can't quit. It saves lives!
That being said, it is imperative to add to the minutes the following caution.
We don't know the long term effects of vaping.
Therefore, unlike the tobacco industry, let's not repeat their mistakes"
​

My presentation was all the BP and BT. Working hand in hand on keeping people hooked. The treatment of smoking related illness in Europe in 2012 cost $12B (yes with a B). Do you honestly think they are willing to kiss that cash cow goodbye. I don't think so!

• BT gets you hooked​
• BP Got the fix, it doesn't work​
• BT is there to fix that. And... around and around we go​

I smoked 6 cigarettes after the fire. My wife was worried for me. I was on nicorettes. I did use them in the past with relative success for short spells. This time... every time I chewed one, I wanted a cig.

BTW, good buddy. It is the nitrosomines (my be wrong word here (dimentia) that smokers are after, which are cancerous compounds. Therefore, growing your own and vaping it? Your better off vaping liquids. I have been making my own liquids since the beginning. I know what's in my vapes. That being said... if it wasn't for that, I would be smoking. It's a no brainer for me. To each their own. I am not here to prove anything. We are all grownups! Draw your own conclusion. (present company excepted)

 

[Switcher56]

What PROOF is there that vaping cannabis is less harmful than smoking cannabis?

Ya sound like a broken record!

 

[Jellyfish]

Ya sound like a broken record!

I know, so do you, bud. But you never answer the question, 'where are all the sick and dead people from smoking weed?' I'll shut up when you answer my question.

If smoking weed is completely safe (and it is), how can vaping be any SAFER? There, I asked you a different question. Answer that.

 

[Sub24ox7]

My lungs feel better vaping from the volcano versus smoking weed and it’s a big difference. I’m a runner, I run 5 miles everyday at the least. I tried to smoke again and within a week I was coughing up shit(something I don’t do) and couldn’t run anywhere near as fast or far. Pretty much made up my mind. Was night and day difference for me.

 

[revegeta666]

If smoking weed is completely safe (and it is)

lmao

 

[Jellyfish]

My lungs feel better vaping from the volcano versus smoking weed and it’s a big difference. I’m a runner, I run 5 miles everyday at the least. I tried to smoke again and within a week I was coughing up shit(something I don’t do) and couldn’t run anywhere near as fast or far. Pretty much made up my mind. Was night and day difference for me.

That just means you can't handle smoking weed. I mean, are you actually SICK? Or just all cough-y? There's a big difference, you know.

 

[Jellyfish]

lmao

Laugh all you want, like you know something I don't. Look, I don't come on ICMAG, a website for cannabis enthusiasts, and criticize and demonize the way other people enjoy the weed. Why do you all supposedly fellow potheads want to put down my way of enjoying it? It would be different if just one of you actually stepped up and said, vaping is safer than smoking because ABC. But you never do, and my conclusion is it's because ultimately you can't. It's just your feelings.

 

[aliceklar]

I'm a big fan of the Pax3 (dry herb vape). Tastes great, & very discreet. Looks much like a normal nicotine vape. I still feel it in my lungs if I've smoked a few in an evening, but its way smoother and cooler than a bong or a joint.

 

[revegeta666]

Laugh all you want, like you know something I don't. Look, I don't come on ICMAG, a website for cannabis enthusiasts, and criticize and demonize the way other people enjoy the weed. Why do you all supposedly fellow potheads want to put down my way of enjoying it? It would be different if just one of you actually stepped up and said, vaping is safer than smoking because ABC. But you never do, and my conclusion is it's because ultimately you can't. It's just your feelings.

No one is demonizing anything. You have been told countless times that combustion unleashes carcinogens that are even worse for you than vaping which isn't ideal either by the way. Carcinogen = substance that increases the risk of cancer. I don't know why anyone should expand on this any further. Asking for proof on this is like asking for proof when I tell you apples fall from the tree to the ground. Inhaling foreign substances into your lungs is not ideal, they were not created for smoke, nor other substances.

For some reason you think it's your duty to defend the honor of cannabis and take offense because people are suggesting that inhaling smoke into your lungs is not good for you. How is that not laughable? Sorry if I come out as the asshole here but cannabis is just a plant, it's not your mommy or your friend and you don't need to defend it or prevent "defamation" like you said in a previous post. Everyone here obviously loves cannabis. Nobody is impressed that you also love cannabis.

You insisting again and again in denying the most basic of all science because you're offended makes clear whose feelings are hurt here. You don't have to defend cannabis' honor, chill out man.

Lastly, cannabis forums are for talking about cannabis. Including its negative effects which do exist. You have to deal with this man, it's childish and immature to try to prevent people from talking about this.

EDIT -
And by the way, I was not laughing like I know something you don't, like you are suggesting.

I was laughing because of how condescending you were in the comment I quoted. Undeservedly so btw.

 

[revegeta666]

--double post sry--

 

[Jellyfish]

No one is demonizing anything. You have been told countless times that combustion unleashes carcinogens that are even worse for you than vaping which isn't ideal either by the way. Carcinogen = substance that increases the risk of cancer. I don't know why anyone should expand on this any further. Asking for proof on this is like asking for proof when I tell you apples fall from the tree to the ground. Inhaling foreign substances into your lungs is not ideal, they were not created for smoke, nor other substances.

For some reason you think it's your duty to defend the honor of cannabis and take offense because people are suggesting that inhaling smoke into your lungs is not good for you. How is that not laughable? Sorry if I come out as the asshole here but cannabis is just a plant, it's not your mommy or your friend and you don't need to defend it or prevent "defamation" like you said in a previous post. Everyone here obviously loves cannabis. Nobody is impressed that you also love cannabis.

You insisting again and again in denying the most basic of all science because you're offended makes clear whose feelings are hurt here. You don't have to defend cannabis' honor, chill out man.

Lastly, cannabis forums are for talking about cannabis. Including its negative effects which do exist. You have to deal with this man, it's childish and immature to try to prevent people from talking about this.

EDIT -
And by the way, I was not laughing like I know something you don't, like you are suggesting.

I was laughing because of how condescending you were in the comment I quoted. Undeservedly so btw.

I'M condescending? Do you read your own posts? Have you read any research that cannabis contains substances that block carcinogens? Maybe that's why there are no sick or dead people from smoking cannabis?
I know I'm not alone in my beliefs, but most of the people on ICMAG are sick to death of arguing with the vape nazis. Yes, this topic has come up countless times on ICMAG, but nobody ever answers my questions. They just attack me personally. like with this 'condescending' remark. I don't take offense "because people are suggesting that inhaling smoke into your lungs is not good for you". I take offense because they say it with ZERO evidence to prove it. We can keep this going as long as you want, if you have anything new to say. "The most basic of science" ISN'T answering my question- If smoking weed is so bad for you, where are all the sick and dead people? Not cough-y, not sore throaty- SICK. Tell me, Mr. Basic Science.

 

[revegeta666]

I'M condescending? Do you read your own posts? Have you read any research that cannabis contains substances that block carcinogens? Maybe that's why there are no sick or dead people from smoking cannabis?
I know I'm not alone in my beliefs, but most of the people on ICMAG are sick to death of arguing with the vape nazis. Yes, this topic has come up countless times on ICMAG, but nobody ever answers my questions. They just attack me personally. like with this 'condescending' remark. I don't take offense "because people are suggesting that inhaling smoke into your lungs is not good for you". I take offense because they say it with ZERO evidence to prove it. We can keep this going as long as you want, if you have anything new to say. "The most basic of science" ISN'T answering my question- If smoking weed is so bad for you, where are all the sick and dead people? Not cough-y, not sore throaty- SICK. Tell me, Mr. Basic Science.

Sawrry fwend, if you need proof that inhaling smoke of any kind is harmful it's on you. You don't need to see sick or dead people from eating sand, to know that eating sand is not good for you. That's what Mr basic science says.

Calling everyone a Nazi because they disagree with you fits right into your childish attitude as well. I personally vape, smoke and eat cannabis so I hope you weren't including me in the vape Nazi category. Or I will have to sue you for defamation

EDIT -
Who is "them" attacking you personally by the way? Because I'm really holding back lol

This is the quote I was referring to when I said you were being condescending:

If smoking weed is completely safe (and it is)

How is that not condescending? And how is it me pointing it out a personal attack in any way???