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Biden: No Guns for Weed Smokers

armedoldhippy

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Does cannabis impair judgment so much so that firearms should probably not be owned by those who regularly partake?

Yes, when it comes to handguns at least, I happen to agree with that. Mind you, I happen to have the same view about people whose strongest drink is black coffee.

Does alcohol impair the judgment so much that firearms should not be owned by those who regularly drink alcohol?

YES. Emphatically yes. FAR more so than with cannabis.

So why isn't the federal government doing that? Because alcohol is legal and cannabis isn't. 100 years ago, alcohol was, too - but you went down that road and it didn't work out.

"Gee: It's almost as if handguns are inherently dangerous and should only be owned by people who's job requires it."

Yes. Right.
no, wrong. PEOPLE are inherently dangerous, which is why many OTHER people buy a firearm for protection. you can't fix stupid...
 

Rider420

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I feel sorry for gun owners. They buy guns to feel safe but the fact is owning a gun increases your risk of being shot dead or committing suicide.

FYI America ranks second in the world for people using guns to commit suicide
  1. Greenland — 16.36
  2. United States — 7.12
  3. Uruguay — 4.74
 

H e d g e

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While attempting to justify fining and banning cannabis user’s from driving, the British transport police accidentally proved that cannabis makes you significantly less likely to crash.
If the same applies to firing a weapon they’d be less likely to miss, which would make them more dangerous if you’re the one being shot at.
 
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Ready4

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Relax everyone. This is a 100% LIE - this is a perfect example of PAID SPAM LIES, that website is an outright joke of only lies which is created to get $$$ from the gullible & steal your vote. I have friends who fall for the similar paid spam LIES of the GOP - when I offer to bet them large amounts on this nonsense, they get mad but refuse to bet. If they lost a month of paychecks, their cranial rectitus would dissipate. All these BS claims about Biden are no more real than Santa Claus.
 

RobFromTX

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https://freebeacon.com/biden-administration/biden-no-guns-for-weed-smokers/

Biden: No Guns for Weed Smokers

The Biden administration is defending a federal ban on gun-ownership for medical marijuana users, urging a federal judge to dismiss a challenge to the statute.

Medical marijuana users should be prohibited from owning guns because the substance impairs the "judgment, cognition, and physical coordination" of those under its influence, lawyers for the Justice Department argued. Florida agricultural commissioner Nikki Fried (D.) is spearheading the lawsuit against the government for its prohibition on people who consume cannabis products with a prescription from owning firearms.

"I'm suing the Biden administration because people's rights are being limited," the commissioner said in April after filing the suit. "Medical marijuana is legal. Guns are legal. This is about people's rights and their freedoms to responsibly have both."

The administration's stance stands in contrast to President Joe Biden's rhetoric on marijuana. Biden has endorsed decriminalization and argued the federal government shouldn’t interfere with state affairs when it comes to marijuana laws.

The Biden administration’s inconsistent stance on the drug mirrors that of Vice President Kamala Harris. As California attorney general, Harris was responsible for locking up thousands for marijuana-related crimes, the Washington Free Beacon reported in 2019. That same year, as she was running for president, she said she was pre-disposed to like smoking marijuana due to her Jamaican heritage. The comment drew stern criticism from her father, who said she was stereotyping people on the island.

Most Americans support both the legalization of medical marijuana and the private ownership of firearms. Ninety-one percent of Americans believe that weed should be legal in some form, according to a Pew Research Center poll.

Reason magazine pointed out that the Justice Department's argument citing marijuana's effect on the mind "could be applied to many legal drugs" such as alcohol or prescription opioids that are legal for gun-owners to consume.

In its motion to dismiss the lawsuit, the Justice Department cited historical disarmament of "groups deemed dangerous," such as 17th-century Catholics and American Indians, as precedent for the practice of preventing certain groups from owning weapons.

Fried is running in the Democratic primary to challenge Republican governor Ron DeSantis in November. Fried and the governor appear to be on the same page regarding medical marijuana users' Second Amendment rights.

"Floridians should not be deprived of a constitutional right for using a medication lawfully," DeSantis's office said.
And trying to ban menthols because they disproportionately kill black people. Genius at work there :rolleyes:
 

xet

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This is what I do.

I call my Sheriff, my local Congressman, my local Senator, Governor, my local legislators, and I leave them kind voicemails on their businessline about how they must uphold America's Constitution.

I even call other people's Sheriffs, Congressmen, Senators, Governors, and local legislators and leave them voicemails too.

I tell all of my neighbors, local pastors, and random people at the grocery store about what a joke the attack on our Constitution is and encourage them that them spreading the word is our only last hope and if they can't do that then they deserve the anti-American government they get.

I also encourage everyone who believes in attacking our Constitution to go on and suit up in their uniform and line up in their tanks on our streets if they really believe they can take us all out for whatever reason they think they have for tearing America down and flying their foreign United Nations flags or whatever dope sent them. They are all talk though. And it is because they are stupid and stupid can't be fixed. Unlike them we have family letters about the American revolution and we understand the fault lines succinctly. They are a dying rabbit crying in their own night.

Thomas Jefferson had a field of hemp and a separate field of strong THC plants.

God, guns, gold, and cannabis is who we are.

The anti-god, anti-guns, anti-gold, people are our foot-stool.

There is nothing they can do to stop us from overthrowing Babylon and their tower of Babel, world wide.

They can try all they like to say anti-Babylon messages is propaganda but they are blind and they will burn.
 

armedoldhippy

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I feel sorry for gun owners. They buy guns to feel safe but the fact is owning a gun increases your risk of being shot dead or committing suicide.

FYI America ranks second in the world for people using guns to commit suicide
  1. Greenland — 16.36
  2. United States — 7.12
  3. Uruguay — 4.74
idiot. why does the method used to kill oneself make a fucking bit of difference? would you rather they go out and kill a few others in a car wreck along with themselves? would you pass a law against rope if folks started hanging themselves? wtf? :laughing:
 

Ready4

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Every single person I have gotten to start fact checking no longer believes any of the lies that are constantly spewed on those far right paid spam websites. Fox "news" is not a news channel, their founder admitted in court that it was just for "entertainment". Just as Trump's election lies have shown to be 100% false with zero proof & zero truth, these type of claims are guaranteed to be 100% manure. All those type of websites have one thing in common = they all were created to bleed $ away from the gullible & all of them have requests for $$$$$$ to "fight against .... " . Reality is they keep your $$$ and do nothing. Steve Bannon's "Build The Wall" site generated millions of dollars = Bannon and his gang kept every dollar & not one dollar went to the "Wall". Steve Bannon was criminally convicted and would have spent years in prison but Trump made sure that criminal was pardoned, even though he robbed every Trump supporter who sent in $. Gov DeSantis is a perfect example of the freak show of liars - he banned 83 Math books with bizarre claims/lies of "transgender" blah, blah, blah. When Gov. DeSantis was questioned for specific examples of these freakshow claims, his spokesman said "We have no specifics at this time" = they still have not provided even ONE example. Why do they lie non-stop ???? Because they are counting on people to continue to blindly support them with complete obedience & zero questioning or fact checking of their bizarre claims. Check how the hugest government failure in USA history, The MAGA Wall, was a complete failure that criminal contractors robbed hundreds of millions to do shoddy crap work. For those of you who "disagree" ,the proof is right in front of your face, the only time you should be laughing is when you look in the mirror. You spent endless hours learning to grow but have spent zero time checking to see if what you believe is factual. If you had checked, you would already know it is fiction.
 

fatigues

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idiot. why does the method used to kill oneself make a fucking bit of difference? would you rather they go out and kill a few others in a car wreck along with themselves? would you pass a law against rope if folks started hanging themselves? wtf? :laughing:
What does it matter what you use to try to kill yourself? Well, Americans don't attempt suicide at rates which are markedly higher than those in other developed nations.

But they do succeed at it FAR more often. That's because no other developed nation on Earth allows its citizens to arm themselves with handguns so easily. And that is why the suicide rate in the USA is near the top of the list, globally.

Because when men attempt it, it is far more often than nor with a handgun. And the large majority of them succeed at it.

We're #1!
We're #1!
We're #1!


So yes, it matters. It cost hundreds of thousands of American lives in the 2000s alone.

And no, they don't have to pass laws to make attempting suicide illegal. Most of those state laws have already existed for longer than you have been alive.

But HE is the idiot? I see. Interesting.

That wasn't my take.
 
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Loc Dog

Hobbies include "drinkin', smokin' weed, and all k
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Every single person I have gotten to start fact checking no longer believes any of the lies that are constantly spewed on those far right paid spam websites. Fox "news" is not a news channel, their founder admitted in court that it was just for "entertainment". Just as Trump's election lies have shown to be 100% false with zero proof & zero truth, these type of claims are guaranteed to be 100% manure. All those type of websites have one thing in common = they all were created to bleed $ away from the gullible & all of them have requests for $$$$$$ to "fight against .... " . Reality is they keep your $$$ and do nothing. Steve Bannon's "Build The Wall" site generated millions of dollars = Bannon and his gang kept every dollar & not one dollar went to the "Wall". Steve Bannon was criminally convicted and would have spent years in prison but Trump made sure that criminal was pardoned, even though he robbed every Trump supporter who sent in $. Gov DeSantis is a perfect example of the freak show of liars - he banned 83 Math books with bizarre claims/lies of "transgender" blah, blah, blah. When Gov. DeSantis was questioned for specific examples of these freakshow claims, his spokesman said "We have no specifics at this time" = they still have not provided even ONE example. Why do they lie non-stop ???? Because they are counting on people to continue to blindly support them with complete obedience & zero questioning or fact checking of their bizarre claims. Check how the hugest government failure in USA history, The MAGA Wall, was a complete failure that criminal contractors robbed hundreds of millions to do shoddy crap work. For those of you who "disagree" ,the proof is right in front of your face, the only time you should be laughing is when you look in the mirror. You spent endless hours learning to grow but have spent zero time checking to see if what you believe is factual. If you had checked, you would already know it is fiction.
Fox used the defense - No reasonable person would believe their people" in court twice.
 

armedoldhippy

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What does it matter what you use to try to kill yourself? Well, Americans don't attempt suicide at rates which are markedly higher than those in other developed nations.

But they do succeed at it FAR more often. That's because no other developed nation on Earth allows its citizens to arm themselves with handguns so easily. And that is why the suicide rate in the USA is near the top of the list, globally.

Because when men attempt it, it is far more often than nor with a handgun. And the large majority of them succeed at it.

We're #1!
We're #1!
We're #1!


So yes, it matters. It cost hundreds of thousands of American lives in the 2000s alone.

And no, they don't have to pass laws to make attempting suicide illegal. Most of those state laws have already existed for longer than you have been alive.

But HE is the idiot? I see. Interesting.

That wasn't my take.
people use handguns because it is a bit more difficult to get your big toe into the trigger guard of a rifle or shotgun. ( i have known folks that succeeded) if you want to die, i don't have a problem with it. i would prefer you do it at home instead of slamming your car into a bus or semi out on the highway. OR by using drugs & ODing. that just gives the anti-drug folks more ammo. by the way...England actually used to have a law against committing suicide. would you like to know what they did to you if you tried and failed? :biglaugh: yeah, he IS the idiot, but now i wonder about you as well...
 

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