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Has China already won the next war?

gaiusmarius

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The chicoms have the xiden admin by the balls, and are telling the negotiators that right in front.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1372775471637688332

i never take much stock of out of context cut up clips of a few seconds.

but it shows that the language of normal diplomatic relations are being abandoned for the same talking point type punditry you find in trash media.

what do we think going to war with China will do for the Chinese people rights and freedoms except destroy them totally. we have too many recent examples of wars for humanitarian reasons making the death toll 100 times worse.

we need to focus on our own society and making it better, less worry about what other countries do and more focus on actually making us more happy, more free, more prosperous, more justly served by our reps in government.
 

Cannavore

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pretty interesting how China has told the UN to come into China and investigate/confirm the Uighur problem and the UN has always declined.
 

gaiusmarius

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pretty interesting how China has told the UN to come into China and investigate/confirm the Uighur problem and the UN has always declined.

that is interesting indeed, can you link me up? i was under the distinct impression that it was next to impossible to actually go to a random camp and talk to the incarcerated freely. there have been a number of journalists showing them selves attempting to investigate and they all claim that they are impeded in 1000 different ways from getting anywhere near these places, let alone going inside and talking with the people being re educated. but im a mistrustful kind of person, so i wouldn't be that surprised to hear that all this is another WMD type hoax to keep the military industrial complex money showers on full steam. but i have yet to see convincing evidence that the whole re education camp issue is false.
 

Cannavore

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that is interesting indeed, can you link me up? i was under the distinct impression that it was next to impossible to actually go to a random camp and talk to the incarcerated freely. there have been a number of journalists showing them selves attempting to investigate and they all claim that they are impeded in 1000 different ways from getting anywhere near these places, let alone going inside and talking with the people being re educated. but im a mistrustful kind of person, so i wouldn't be that surprised to hear that all this is another WMD type hoax to keep the military industrial complex money showers on full steam. but i have yet to see convincing evidence that the whole re education camp issue is false.

i've seen it on the GrayZone before which I believe you read/follow... aaron mate, max blumenthal, etc. i'll see if i can find the exact thing i read
 

gaiusmarius

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i've seen it on the GrayZone before which I believe you read/follow... aaron mate, max blumenthal, etc. i'll see if i can find the exact thing i read

Aron Matte and Max Blumenthal are the shit, very few people deserve to be called real journalists any more but they earn that title, pls try find it. i did also see a 2 hour podcast on the subject on Grezzones YT, but i didnt have time to watch it yet.

no twitter or facebook or insta, so i catch their stuff on yt
 

gaiusmarius

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Debunking anti-China myths of the new cold war - with Daniel Dumbrill




moderate rebels is another show which is done by Max Blumenthal, very interesting. i for 1 don't need to be fooled again like in the Iraq WMD lie days.
 

Amynamous

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Nuance is not allowed, only ideological lockstep. ironically coming from people who actively suck up to Iran as they actively kill American soldiers.

If you want to see what happens when you don't tow the MIC line.Check out what was and actively is being done to Michael Flynn.


Fortunately, Xi, and Putin hate each other enough that they won't ally together. We hope.

Justice?
I could be wrong, but i believe there’s a law that says that any retired US military general who decides to work as a lobbyist for a foreign hostile government MUST seek Pentagon approval and register to do so. Flynn actively lobbied for Russia and Turkey, before and during the time he was working for the trump campaign and he may not have stopped doing so when he was working as a National Security advisor. He never sought permission nor did he register.
Now that the justice department and the Pentagon are no longer compromised, the US Army investigated these charges and recently referred them to the Pentagon.
 

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Justice?
I could be wrong, but i believe there’s a law that says that any retired US military general who decides to work as a lobbyist for a foreign hostile government MUST seek Pentagon approval and register to do so. Flynn actively lobbied for Russia and Turkey, before and during the time he was working for the trump campaign and he may not have stopped doing so when he was working as a National Security advisor. He never sought permission nor did he register.
Now that the justice department and the Pentagon are no longer compromised, the US Army investigated these charges and recently referred them to the Pentagon.

If Michael Flynn is your big concern, you have lost the plot.

After China berated Biden's weakling diplomats, and is now allied with the Russians.
 

Amynamous

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If Michael Flynn is your big concern, you have lost the plot.

After China berated Biden's weakling diplomats, and is now allied with the Russians.

I was simply responding to your comment regarding Flynn, who i view as a coward and a seditious traitor.
Speaking of which, did you hear that Sydney Powell is taking the Carlson Tucker defense against Dominion,etal? She’s claiming that her statements were ridiculous and no rational person would believe them...or something to that effect. Don’t quote me. :D
 

gaiusmarius

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I was simply responding to your comment regarding Flynn, who i view as a coward and a seditious traitor.
Speaking of which, did you hear that Sydney Powell is taking the Carlson Tucker defense against Dominion,etal? She’s claiming that her statements were ridiculous and no rational person would believe them...or something to that effect. Don’t quote me. :D

i think she will get sued for every penny she has and more. you can't claim vote fraud falsely and then say you were just joking when you get called out. that has to have legal backlash.
 

packerfan79

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I was simply responding to your comment regarding Flynn, who i view as a coward and a seditious traitor.
Speaking of which, did you hear that Sydney Powell is taking the Carlson Tucker defense against Dominion,etal? She’s claiming that her statements were ridiculous and no rational person would believe them...or something to that effect. Don’t quote me. :D

You are entitled to your opinion. I could care less about Sydney Powell.

I am concerned about Sleepy Joe getting smacked down by the Chinese, and there new axis of evil with Russia, and N. Korea. Way to go, no more offensive tweets, now we just have a world war, with nuclear weapons on all sides. At least we don't have to be offended, while we die of radiation poisoning.
 

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Russia was probably America's best chance to ally with and fight against these globalists. That is why they demonized Russia, Putin, and the statement Trump made about how nice it would be if we got along with Russia.
 

Gry

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Debunking anti-China myths of the new cold war - with Daniel Dumbrill




moderate rebels is another show which is done by Max Blumenthal, very interesting. i for 1 don't need to be fooled again like in the Iraq WMD lie days.


Worthwhile and interesting content, thank you for it.
 

igrowone

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seems the whole Sydney Powell story is partly fake. i got tricked by the headline too, here is an actual lawyer explaning the actual legal situation with her attempt to dismiss the lawsuit against her.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/flpmvWbZSM8/

I think most of us understood it was rhetorical theater
gets put out there to gauge the response
response wasn't good so her legal team learns a little
now what actually gets put out in the legal proceedings, that she could pay a price if her legal team's game doesn't get better
 

armedoldhippy

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seems the whole Sydney Powell story is partly fake. i got tricked by the headline too, here is an actual lawyer explaning the actual legal situation with her attempt to dismiss the lawsuit against her.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/flpmvWbZSM8/

she is in a tight spot of her own make. her defense in one of the current two suits against her directly contradicts her defense statements in the second case, which is filed in a different state. judges are NOT going to let her have her cake and eat it too. she is going to end up pleading guilty or nolo contendre in one court or the other. be damned lucky to practice law again anywhere anytime soon...
 

gaiusmarius

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Worthwhile and interesting content, thank you for it.

glad you found it interesting, i still have some doubts about the whole Uighur thing to be honest, seems to me i have seen interviews with quite a number of Uighurs claiming to have relatives locked up for no reason, contact to relatives forbidden. their houses and cities are full of military and police checking peoples phones on every corner. on top of that there is a hi tech surveillance system that watches every step. but still that isn't the same as slave labour/extermination camps. i also would like more information about the whole forced organ "donations" and transplanting accusation.
 

armedoldhippy

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glad you found it interesting, i still have some doubts about the whole Uighur thing to be honest, seems to me i have seen interviews with quite a number of Uighurs claiming to have relatives locked up for no reason, contact to relatives forbidden. their houses and cities are full of military and police checking peoples phones on every corner. on top of that there is a hi tech surveillance system that watches every step. but still that isn't the same as slave labour/extermination camps. i also would like more information about the whole forced organ "donations" and transplanting accusation.

been rumors/accusations of organ harvesting over there for a long time, mostly RE executed prisoners. I have no doubt it is true. the Uighurs (like other religious minorities in totalitarian regions ) are no doubt being repressed. China has no moral qualms about shooting the messengers, either. the US is more circumspect RE your phones, but have no doubt that your phones are tracked by Stingrays etc.
 

Amynamous

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You are entitled to your opinion. I could care less about Sydney Powell.

I am concerned about Sleepy Joe getting smacked down by the Chinese, and there new axis of evil with Russia, and N. Korea. Way to go, no more offensive tweets, now we just have a world war, with nuclear weapons on all sides. At least we don't have to be offended, while we die of radiation poisoning.

And you’re entitled to your opinion as well.

I have never perceived China as a threat to the US. I see China as a competitor in the global economy, but not as a threat. But that’s just my opinion. I am not aware of any smack down from China. Perhaps you can explain that to me.
That being said, I do wish we would drop those crazy tariffs already. I don’t blame China for being upset with that. Tariffs and trade wars are self destructive and counter to conservative ideals.

Also, China and North Korea have been close allies for decades. That’s nothing new. Russia cant do shit to us, just as we can’t do shit to Russia, except slap sanctions on them. Seems like they’re past caring about that.
But Sydney Powell’s defense...that’s some funny shit right there. Seems to me her best defense would be simply stating that she was in a wacked out, crazy cult and she’s currently in therapy. I bet that would get some sympathy if she got the right judge. Just a for more pennies for you.
 

armedoldhippy

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pretty interesting how China has told the UN to come into China and investigate/confirm the Uighur problem and the UN has always declined.

China wants to give a "guided tour" where they control who gets to talk to who, where, what questions may be asked, and where anyone speaking out of turn will end up with missing relatives, if not disappear themselves. I don't blame the UN, i wouldn't go to a fucking dog & pony show either...
 
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