the Mexican Landraces Thread

[elchischas]

This is what you usually get mainly in the north part of the country, the "mexi-indicas" called as "chaparras" o " talibanas" this one its the classic hybrid that You get in Michoacán

 

[rolandomota]

Viva Mexico cabrones happy Mexico independance day everyone Feliz dia del grito my amigos concentrense en collector Mexicanas coming yo a mi me gusta comprar fumar y juntar la mota Mexicana
Me acabo de encontrar un connecte de mota que huele a incienso cuando la quemas incienso guey no mames un olor bien bonito sin El typico olor a hierba quemada que todos conocen
es como Panama de ace o haze original que see rumora es de origen colombiano
Que sorpresa tan mas chingona nunca me habia enterado hasta ahora
Esta marijuana me huele familiar es un typo muy comun pero apenas Ando revisando los olores del humo y cabron que chingon es eso que El humo huela a incienso bien bonito
Buscen Las de pino El pine pinito hay unas que El humo huele a pino muy bonito como cuando estas en la Sierra rodeado de pinos nada parecido Al olor typico a marijuana hace mucho k no encuentro de pino y pelo rojo pero rojo guey no anaranjado rojo rojo pelo como la bandera rojo
En Las ciudades Grandes de la frontera se encuentra Todo de Todo por que aqui es donde see vende a los United States entonces encuetras de Todo en la frontera
Siempre VA haber differentes typos dependiondo cual ciudad fronteriza see explora Tijuana piedra's negras juarez y Laredo VA haber differentes typos en cada ciudad


Basically what I'm saying is collect those Mexico strains real red hair and pine types
You can find a lot of diversity in the border cities because that's where they bring it from all of Mexico to smuggle in to USA
Each major border city will have different types because different people are in power in each city

 

[rolandomota]

Una cosa mas que raro que no hayga mas motas Mexicans verdad? Pero eso es bueno nos da opportunidad un lugar en la marketa que solo nosotros podemes traer Al publico Este de la internet....aunque tambien pueden hacer lo mismo estos gueyes aqui en los United no Les gusta comprar Mexican por que esta aplastada lol no mamen putos bueno mas para mi sigan comprando Cara sinsemilla que pone menos o igual lol no guey te digo que estan locos aqui

 

[Tlatoani77]

This is what you usually get mainly in the north part of the country, the "mexi-indicas" called as "chaparras" o " talibanas" this one its the classic hybrid that You get in Michoacán
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Simón, simón, entiendo, probaré de todo lo que tengo guardado. A lo que te refieres con las floras tan largas, trabajo para solucionar eso, no quiero elevar demasiado el coste, mi plan era hacer no más que un pequeño cuarto de madres, en donde pondría los mejores clones de padres y madres, dentro polinizar controladamente, y sacar clones y clones año tras año para florar en exterior, así no gastaría demasiado en florar. En cuanto a la potencia, veo la potencia más que decente en especial cuando se libera tu mente y al final no caes tumbado jajaja. Sinceramente la Oaxaca me pareció muy baja en potencia sin embargo, el trip mental que me hizo sentir y el golpe de energía eran inigualables, a pesar de que era más guarumo que mota en si, la Verde limón me hizo por así decirlo como alucinar levemente, aparte de que estaba de noche fumando en el cerro
Sinceramente estoy convencido que quiero fumar pura sativa de día y de noche tal vez ya un híbrido que me quite el imsomnio, sin embargo quisiera tener variedad, tal vez una relax como la Oaxaca de repente cuando no quiera ir tan destruido, pero también quisiera algo tipo Malawi, que me parta el pecho cuando lo necesite, vaya a honguear, o simplemente a explorar el cerro.
Esas matitas, ¿qué tipo de efecto tienen amigo?, se me figura mucho a una michoacana que vi.
Saludos

 

[Tlatoani77]

Viva Mexico cabrones happy Mexico independance day everyone Feliz dia del grito my amigos concentrense en collector Mexicanas coming yo a mi me gusta comprar fumar y juntar la mota Mexicana
Me acabo de encontrar un connecte de mota que huele a incienso cuando la quemas incienso guey no mames un olor bien bonito sin El typico olor a hierba quemada que todos conocen
es como Panama de ace o haze original que see rumora es de origen colombiano
Que sorpresa tan mas chingona nunca me habia enterado hasta ahora
Esta marijuana me huele familiar es un typo muy comun pero apenas Ando revisando los olores del humo y cabron que chingon es eso que El humo huela a incienso bien bonito
Buscen Las de pino El pine pinito hay unas que El humo huele a pino muy bonito como cuando estas en la Sierra rodeado de pinos nada parecido Al olor typico a marijuana hace mucho k no encuentro de pino y pelo rojo pero rojo guey no anaranjado rojo rojo pelo como la bandera rojo
En Las ciudades Grandes de la frontera se encuentra Todo de Todo por que aqui es donde see vende a los United States entonces encuetras de Todo en la frontera
Siempre VA haber differentes typos dependiondo cual ciudad fronteriza see explora Tijuana piedra's negras juarez y Laredo VA haber differentes typos en cada ciudad


Basically what I'm saying is collect those Mexico strains real red hair and pine types
You can find a lot of diversity in the border cities because that's where they bring it from all of Mexico to smuggle in to USA
Each major border city will have different types because different people are in power in each city

¡Qué trancita Rolandomota", qué tal?

Suena muy interesante todo lo que dices, después de todo, la mayor parte de la producción de Colombia para arriba del mapa está destidada a los Unites, debe de haber aún muchas cosas por descubrir, ¿consigies a menudo de esas semillas?, ¿has probado o testeado "the ranger"?; se supone una sativa de Tijuana.
Aunque al final de todo no los culpo mucho el no querer prensada, la neta hacen mierda cualquier genética al prensarla, bueno, me ha tocado probar orange prensada y no prensada y la diferencia es abismal. Recién tengo en un frasco una mota prensada y hasta con poco de moho, y si no es eso no fumo, al children prefiero fumar pero eso no le quita lo desagradable, igual muchos de esos prensados ya son híbridos lamentablemente. Sin embargo si tuviera esa oportunidad, de tener tantas hierbas a mi disposición, y de tener un buen poder adquisitivo, buscaría los mejores tabiques (bricks), y plantaría todas las semillas posibles en busca de tesoros.

Saludos Rolando

 

[Som 2]

I posted this in the R.U.S.T. thread but it should probably go here too. I have some Mexican that I bred from two batches of bagseed in 1993. The mother line is actually from 1989. I would describe the mother line as above average commercial Mexican of that era. It wasn't frosty or aromatic. It definitely wasn't what would have been called "kind bud" back then, but it had a really pleasant high with no ceiling. I had made seeds from that line because it was better than any of the other Mexican I had grown. But I continued to sprout bagseed and was basically playing bagseed survivor against the '89 for the next few years.

The father line was a single plant I got in 1992. A friend of mine gave me some seed that came from brick weed that was way stronger than normal brick. The male had an aroma even as a seedling, It was the only Mexican brick plant I ever sprouted that had that. In 1993 I crossed that male with my '89 Mexican regular line. The results were good and the '93 Mexican has been my main sativa ever since. That male made the line a lot stronger. It also made the buds much fluffier which makes me think that it is an older strain that predated the addition of indica into Mexican genetics. The '93 Mexican has the classic uplifting, happy, giggly high and trippy visuals - not like mushrooms or acid but it gives everything a shimmery look.

For the last 20 years I have been growing F2s from a batch that I made in 1998. I am still getting 80% to 90% germination on those. I also have about 20 of the original F1s left. I strongly suspect they are still viable because all my other old seeds that I have tested are. I always let my seeds dry for a few months and then freeze them during the time of year we have low humidity. It seems to work.

At some point in the future I am going to make more F2. Not this next winter but probably the winter after. I think I am going to do it in two batches so that F3s can be made by crossing cousins rather than siblings. It is my understanding that reduces inbreeding depression. They will be open pollinations so I can make 1000s of seeds. Once the US legalizes federally I will probably try to make them available in some form. I am not really motivated by money so I will probably give them away or sell them for a nominal amount. My main goal has always been to preserve the line until it could go back out into the world.

An update on this line - I just sent some seeds of it to Peakseedsbc for them to work with. Hopefully they make it available to the public at some point in the future. The cannabis world needs more vintage Mexican.

 

[Montuno]

¡Qué trancita Rolandomota", qué tal?
(...)
Aunque al final de todo no los culpo mucho el no querer prensada, la neta hacen mierda cualquier genética al prensarla, bueno, me ha tocado probar orange prensada y no prensada y la diferencia es abismal. Recién tengo en un frasco una mota prensada y hasta con poco de moho, y si no es eso no fumo, al children prefiero fumar pero eso no le quita lo desagradable, igual muchos de esos prensados ya son híbridos lamentablemente.
(...)

No fumes hierba enmohecida. Puede ser muy peligroso para los pulmones...

 

[Montuno]

Hola montuno
La verdad no estoy seguro, pero lo leí por ahí; pero quizás no sea así, quizás sólo sea estrategia; si hay algo que le admiro de sobremanera a Cannabiogen y ACE es el marketing.
Ojalá que Kaiki regrese pronto, siempre le da sabor al caldo canabico en los foros.
Los zapatistas no son más que una panda de oportunistas sin ofició ni beneficio, dudo mucho que ellos sepan algo de cannabis de alta calidad,ya no digamos de landraces.
De alguna manera el tema del canabis se relajo aquí en México, ya no está tan satanizada la planta, creó que eventualmente más landraces verán la luz otra vez.

Yo, sin embargo, opino lo contrario sobre lo de la mercadotecnia de CannaBioGen. Creo que para la calidad y reconocimiento que tienen entre los "entendidos", no han sabido venderse bien (igual que pasa con Original Delicatessen, o Tropical Seeds Company). Incluso hay compañías españolas de semillas " a granel" con mucha más publicidad y ventas... Incluso copias de la Destroyer (que por cierto, creo lleva Michoacana Verde Limón) de CannaBioGen, como la Desfran de los holandeses Dutch Passion es más conocida y vendida internacionalmente que la original...
A.C.E. (Asociación de Cultivadores Españoles), creo que al menos sí ha sabido proyectarse y hacerse un hueco en el mercado internacional...

Sobre lo ultimo, solo utilicé los términos "mayas" y "zapatistas" para referirme e identificar una zona geográfica...

 

[Humple W.]

Got my order in from Snow. These aren't all Mex, of course, but I thought I'd share a pic of his incredible generosity. I only paid for 4 packs - everything else was a freebie. I'm blown away.

 

[Im'One]

Wow! I have been trying to get in touch with him via Instagram but my old brain won't make it work?

 

[Humple W.]

Wow! I have been trying to get in touch with him via Instagram but my old brain won't make it work?

I just shot an email to the address he has listed on IG, rather than DM'ing him in IG.

 

[willydread]

Few pics of Copalita Oaxaca

 

[achille]

Is the name "Copalita" in relation to the copal incense ? Copal smells very similar to frankincense...

 

[Tlatoani77]

I posted this in the R.U.S.T. thread but it should probably go here too. I have some Mexican that I bred from two batches of bagseed in 1993. The mother line is actually from 1989. I would describe it as above average commercial Mexican of that era. It wasn't frosty or aromatic. It definitely wasn't what would have been called "kind bud" back then, but it had a really pleasant high with no ceiling. I had made seeds from that line because it was better than any of the other Mexican I had grown. But I continued to sprout bagseed and was basically playing bagseed survivor against the '89 for the next few years.

The father line was a single plant I got in 1992. A friend of mine gave me some seed that came from brick weed that was way stronger than normal brick. The male had an aroma even as a seedling, It was the only Mexican brick plant I ever sprouted that had that. In 1993 I crossed that male with my '89 Mexican regular line. The results were good and the '93 Mexican has been my main sativa ever since. That male made the line a lot stronger. It also made the buds much fluffier which makes me think that it is an older strain that predated the addition of indica into Mexican genetics. The '93 Mexican has the classic uplifting, happy, giggly high and trippy visuals - not like mushrooms or acid but it gives everything a shimmery look.

For the last 20 years I have been growing F2s from a batch that I made in 1998. I am still getting 80% to 90% germination on those. I also have about 20 of the original F1s left. I strongly suspect they are still viable because all my other old seeds that I have tested are. I always let my seeds dry for a few months and then freeze them during the time of year we have low humidity. It seems to work.

At some point in the future I am going to make more F2. Not this next winter but probably the winter after. I think I am going to do it in two batches so that F3s can be made by crossing cousins rather than siblings. It is my understanding that reduces inbreeding depression. They will be open pollinations so I can make 1000s of seeds. Once the US legalizes federally I will probably try to make them available in some form. I am not really motivated by money so I will probably give them away or sell them for a nominal amount. My main goal has always been to preserve the line until it could go back out into the world.

These are some photos from my most recent grow.

In veg:

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Hi Som 2, how your doing?

It looks like very sativa, and delicious. I would be love to grow this line that you have, if you can and want to share it, I would be charmed to be considered to recieve some seeds, succes with youe harvest, saludos.

 

[Benny106]

Few pics of Copalita Oaxaca
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Nice to see this line enjoying the sun, have a couple dif copalitas indoors atm. One thin, one thicker..looking forward to seeing how they do in your environment!!

 

[Tlatoani77]

Demasiado tarde Montuno, si me la fumé toda, la neta no aguanté la eriza jajaja, igual no estaba tan enmohecida, solo quité las partes mas feas, no había de ostra; espero no tener que volver a hacerlo.



Humple, whats up man!

This bagseeds are from legit lines?, I've searched them, and I've found them at "Oregon seeds" (I had to hack mi IP adress jajaja), and I saw a lot of strains as Acapulco Gold, Hiaghland guerrero, etc. Some were "BX", crosses or IX?. Know you if some are original landrace?, I'm really interested in this thread and this mexican lines, if you'll gave me some info when you growing them, I would be apreciate it, saludos.

Got my order in from Snow. These aren't all Mex, of course, but I thought I'd share a pic of his incredible generosity. I only paid for 4 packs - everything else was a freebie. I'm blown away.

 

[Tlatoani77]

Few pics of Copalita Oaxaca
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Holly shit!, Willydread, your plants are very beautiful, and pure sativas, have you seeds of it yet?, how's the effect?, I love these kinda plants, saludos.

 

[willydread]

Nice to see this line enjoying the sun, have a couple dif copalitas indoors atm. One thin, one thicker..looking forward to seeing how they do in your environment!!

Thank you! Its the first time I grow this line,fortunately I found only two hermaphrodite plants, the rest seems stable, looking carefully there are two flowering patterns, I hope the climate helps ...

 

[willydread]

Oaxaca boel

 

[Humple W.]

Demasiado tarde Montuno, si me la fumé toda, la neta no aguanté la eriza jajaja, igual no estaba tan enmohecida, solo quité las partes mas feas, no había de ostra; espero no tener que volver a hacerlo.



Humple, whats up man!

This bagseeds are from legit lines?, I've searched them, and I've found them at "Oregon seeds" (I had to hack mi IP adress jajaja), and I saw a lot of strains as Acapulco Gold, Hiaghland guerrero, etc. Some were "BX", crosses or IX?. Know you if some are original landrace?, I'm really interested in this thread and this mexican lines, if you'll gave me some info when you growing them, I would be apreciate it, saludos.

Hello, friend! I can't confirm the legitimacy of these lines, beyond relying on Snow High's word that they are what he says they are. The pics and reports I've found online certainly give me reason to believe they're the real deal. I know some people have problems with Snow, and some others seem to worship him, but I'm on neither side. I just want some good heirlooms! I've read that some of his lines seem to fall flat, but I've read similar reports for pretty much every breeder I've ever researched, so that doesn't really scare me off at all.

I'll certainly try to remember to post some of my results here on the Mag! But it may be a while before I pop any of Snow's beans, as I have some other strains lined up ahead of them. Need to finish the Caramelo I'm growing, then do one run of Ace's Panama, then it's on to the Mexicans (I'll be starting that journey with First Lady from Original Delicatessen).