The Haze discussion thread

[Hemphrey Bogart]

hes an idiot who's claim to fame is being bailed out by woody harrelson and being dumb enough to get caught in the fashion he did

he talks about large selections being important yet sells packs of 5 seeds

You’re entitled to your opinion of the man, and yeah...he did get busted. He also did his time like a man and didn’t rat out his friends in exchange for a lighter sentence.

He’s not perfect, but who amongst us is?

5 pack of Skunk 1 seeds yielded 5 females. Well worth the price of admission so far.

HB.

 

[TPFTFW]

You’re entitled to your opinion of the man, and yeah...he did get busted. He also did his time like a man and didn’t rat out his friends in exchange for a lighter sentence.

He’s not perfect, but who amongst us is?

5 pack of Skunk 1 seeds yielded 5 females. Well worth the price of admission so far.

HB.

since when should u be rewarded for not ratting? that should be fucking SOP

the idiot had how many plants all over his property in the middle of LA or whatever?

don't play with fire if u can't take the heat

also how is it entrusting if sam has literally said he doesn't even want to work them

it sounds like he just let Todd do it cuz he didn't want to, or Todd gave him money to be able to

 

[Hemphrey Bogart]

since when should u be rewarded for not ratting? that should be fucking SOP

the idiot had how many plants all over his property in the middle of LA or whatever?

don't play with fire if u can't take the heat

also how is it entrusting if sam has literally said he doesn't even want to work them

it sounds like he just let Todd do it cuz he didn't want to, or Todd gave him money to be able to

Who said anything about “rewarding” him? That’s different than having respect for what someone else has been through. What he did in LA is none of your business...unless you were somehow negatively affected by it? Somehow I doubt that was the case.

It “sounds” like you don’t know him well enough to speak on his work or his character...Sam felt he was capable of reproducing his haze seed...but maybe you have a problem with Sam too? I don’t know.

Just curious...what has Todd ever done to you to make you so angry at him? The hostility seems a bit over the top...unless maybe he’s done something to you personally?

HB.

 

[TheDarkStorm]

Sam has actually said he would be up for taking one last shot at trying to make a improved seedline...but if he is going to do it he needs some serious space an some help because the numbers he is thinking are huge....so I guess its a case of if evrything aligns up right.
An as for tods work....sam has said its his original haze, direct from him....the line is a ibl an basically true breeding.....so tods seeds shuld come out near enough the same as wat he got regardless. Hemphreys plants look the same as most of sams 90's haze to me

 

[Cvh]

Here is a post from Sam where he confirms Todd got his OHaze directly from him.
https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=8830276&postcount=3496

(And I recommend that you don't buy from Todd, I have send him several mails which he bluntly ignores. For me having no Customer Service is unacceptable.)

 

[@hempy]

HB the plants are looking healthy now they have a long way to go but what stands out to me so far are 2 things 1 is the main steam seams a lot larger/thicker than i have seen on the Haze lines from Nevil.2 the leaf seam more broad leaf than that of say other Ohaze i saw pics of.


Not a criticism more an observation

 

[harvestreaper]

HB the plants are looking healthy now they have a long way to go but what stands out to me so far are 2 things 1 is the main steam seams a lot larger/thicker than i have seen on the Haze lines from Nevil.2 the leaf seam more broad leaf than that of say other Ohaze i saw pics of.


Not a criticism more an observation

if you mean the last pics ,,,think there sk1 hempy

 

[CosmicGiggle]

....

(And I recommend that you don't buy from Todd, I have send him several mails which he bluntly ignores. For me having no Customer Service is unacceptable.)

But he does send the seeds out in a timely manner, I got mine!

 

[@hempy]

if you mean the last pics ,,,think there sk1 hempy

No the Ohaze from Tom mate

 

[harvestreaper]

No the Ohaze from Tom mate

my bad ,,,,just checking i must be stoned err than usual lol ,,,

 

[Hemphrey Bogart]

HB the plants are looking healthy now they have a long way to go but what stands out to me so far are 2 things 1 is the main steam seams a lot larger/thicker than i have seen on the Haze lines from Nevil.2 the leaf seam more broad leaf than that of say other Ohaze i saw pics of.


Not a criticism more an observation

We've been getting a lot of wind in the last month or so...which might help to explain the thicker main stalks. I've got them tied up with bamboo, but the wind has been whipping here pretty fierce as of late...blowing the plants around a bit and toughening up the main stalks. Plants will grow differently outdoors in the elements than they will indoors under lights in a controlled environment, but you knew that already.

Sam has said that you can expect to see slight differences in phenotypes, plant to plant, from the Ohaze line. So, some plants may end up with narrower leaves than others.

I'd love to see photos of some of the original haze plants Nevil grew out before he crossed it with NL5...that would certainly be a good benchmark to judge. I have an established cut of SMC going that has wider leaves than my most of the Ohaze plants I'm running...which is interesting. The SMG seed plant I'm running, on the other hand...while still pretty small, has very narrow leaves...although not by much.

When I smell the C5 x A5T plant, and then walk over and smell the Ohaze, there are definite similarities to be found between the lines in terms of smell. There's a base smell there that is hard to pin down...it's almost like you can tell they're related, however distantly.

HB.

 

[vanilla dutch]

ok.i get it now. this thread is basically trying to find haze thats currently available.ive been gone awhile and out the loop so to speak. has anybody found a definite haze keeper from packs available or? because the last time i was on the internet was when chimera released his frankies incense haze x jack seeds. i had oldtymerz haze back in the day number 23 x 6 or 9.something like that. i would start with ace seeds or hillbilly haze or marijuana matts big haze for a yielder. heres a pic of ny haze year of 2020 courtesy of the haze bros.

 

[@hempy]

We've been getting a lot of wind in the last month or so...which might help to explain the thicker main stalks. I've got them tied up with bamboo, but the wind has been whipping here pretty fierce as of late...blowing the plants around a bit and toughening up the main stalks. Plants will grow differently outdoors in the elements than they will indoors under lights in a controlled environment, but you knew that already.

Sam has said that you can expect to see slight differences in phenotypes, plant to plant, from the Ohaze line. So, some plants may end up with narrower leaves than others.

I'd love to see photos of some of the original haze plants Nevil grew out before he crossed it with NL5...that would certainly be a good benchmark to judge. I have an established cut of SMC going that has wider leaves than my most of the Ohaze plants I'm running...which is interesting. The SMG seed plant I'm running, on the other hand...while still pretty small, has very narrow leaves...although not by much.

When I smell the C5 x A5T plant, and then walk over and smell the Ohaze, there are definite similarities to be found between the lines in terms of smell. There's a base smell there that is hard to pin down...it's almost like you can tell they're related, however distantly.

HB.

I harden my plants from early on and have a large fan on them from the start.

Nevil described the Hazes to me i wish i could post the A5 up that would give you an understanding of what some of the Haze Nevil found looked like.

All the Haze lines from Nevil/Mrnice from Nevil's Haze SSH ShitHaze MangoHaze all share a common them when you grow like the plants frame the way they branch flower even the color of the leaf to the color and look of the main steam.

 

[@hempy]

ok.i get it now. this thread is basically trying to find haze thats currently available.ive been gone awhile and out the loop so to speak. has anybody found a definite haze keeper from packs available or? because the last time i was on the internet was when chimera released his frankies incense haze x jack seeds. i had oldtymerz haze back in the day number 23 x 6 or 9.something like that. i would start with ace seeds or hillbilly haze or marijuana matts big haze for a yielder. heres a pic of ny haze year of 2020 courtesy of the haze bros.

All the Haze lines i have came from Mrnice but some of the seed was made by Nevil sold by shanti other lines were made by shanti using Nevil's plant and seed library.

I cant post on the current seed made by them as i have not grown them but its not hard to see what is being grown out by current seed as a search on mrnice site has grow reports as do other sites of current seed from mrnice.

It comes down to researching but if i wanted seed of Nevil or shantis lines id go threw Mrnice still.

 

[Hemphrey Bogart]

I harden my plants from early on and have a large fan on them from the start.

Nevil described the Hazes to me i wish i could post the A5 up that would give you an understanding of what some of the Haze Nevil found looked like.

All the Haze lines from Nevil/Mrnice from Nevil's Haze SSH ShitHaze MangoHaze all share a common them when you grow like the plants frame the way they branch flower even the color of the leaf to the color and look of the main steam.

All the haze lines from MNS and Nevil were (and are) hybrids. Nevil never sold a 100% pure Ohaze commercially while Sam and others did...unless I’m wrong about that? If so, please correct me. I’ve grown SSH, MH, and NH...indoors and out...and found some great plants...but they weren’t pure haze.

Given what is out there currently, if I was going to look for something today that resembles what I imagine the Ohaze of old to be, I would look at the few pics of Sam’s work out there...or maybe Mad Mac and Johnny Chicago’s seedsman hazes...with Mad Mac’s work getting a slight edge.

Todd wasn’t the only one who got Ohaze seed direct from Sam in the not so distant past.

HB.

 

[RoyalFlush]

Todd wasn’t the only one who got Ohaze seed direct from Sam in the not so distant past.

HB.

Hemphrey, It's supposed to be a secret.

Do listen to this guy folks, Todd's OHaze is the only original OH in existence, pre dating Sam the skunkman

 

[vanilla dutch]

well heres some pics of sams oh xskunk.theses 4 phenos were very hazy.

 

[@hempy]

All the haze lines from MNS and Nevil were (and are) hybrids. Nevil never sold a 100% pure Ohaze commercially while Sam and others did...unless I’m wrong about that? If so, please correct me. I’ve grown SSH, MH, and NH...indoors and out...and found some great plants...but they weren’t pure haze.

Given what is out there currently, if I was going to look for something today that resembles what I imagine the Ohaze of old to be, I would look at the few pics of Sam’s work out there...or maybe Mad Mac and Johnny Chicago’s seedsman hazes...with Mad Mac’s work getting a slight edge.

Todd wasn’t the only one who got Ohaze seed direct from Sam in the not so distant past.

HB.

I think i and most are aware of that Nevil never sold pure haze HB but my point was in all of Nevil's Haze work and even in the MH that shanti breed you saw a common haze dominance expressed in the lines that i dont see in Ohaze and less so in today's lines claiming to be haze..

 

[@hempy]

Sam's haze plant about to be harvested is my guess all the main leaf removed and in a pile bottom right that is the type of frame i mean.

 

[Cvh]

^Is that a picture from Sam himself?