Burro Johnson
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have you tryed 10/14? it is much different than 9/15 or is 9/15 superior? thank you
Oldtimer's Haze
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I thought to reduce the light cycle over the entire flowering:talking about a 20 week strain i did 12/12 for 2 weeks,then 6 weeks of 11/13 and 6 weeks of 10/14 and now 9/15 till the harvest,maybe before the 20th week,at least for the faster pheno.
Not sure how this method affects the yield and the flowering time,you need clones to know for sure,but anyway i'm not after yield
Not sure how this method affects the yield and the flowering time,you need clones to know for sure,but anyway i'm not after yield
OlDirtyHuman
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OTH x ?
14 weeks flowering 11/13
She get's 2 more weeks max. Gotta make room.
All ready smoked a sample from 10 weeks or so and it worked so I'm happy.
14 weeks flowering 11/13
She get's 2 more weeks max. Gotta make room.
All ready smoked a sample from 10 weeks or so and it worked so I'm happy.
OlDirtyHuman
Well-known member
OTH x ?
Cut her at just about 16 weeks flowering.
165 days from sprout.
Longest plant so far but pretty easy to grow.
I got a bunch of seeds from this plant and a Panama x PCK male I might grow someday.
Samples I've smoked are real nice energetic high.
Cut her at just about 16 weeks flowering.
165 days from sprout.
Longest plant so far but pretty easy to grow.
I got a bunch of seeds from this plant and a Panama x PCK male I might grow someday.
Samples I've smoked are real nice energetic high.
Thanks Big Nasty for your courage, patience and skills to bring your Oldtimer's Green Haze phenos until the very end of flowering, your updates are greatly appreciated and are a great example of how to finish successfully an extreme tropical sativa of this kind indoors.
My personal experience growing and breeding with this strain for almost 15 years:
12/12 photoperiod -> Produces extreme stretching and first appearance of preflowers, although if you keep this photoperiod continuously (which is the classic photoperiod for the flowering of most strains indoors) the Oldtimer's Haze will just grow and grow without producing much flowers or without showing signs of ripening. To start with sexually matured clones instead of young seedlings lowers down drastically the size of the plants, although the stretching still will be overwhelming.
11/13 -> Stretching stops quite a bit and Oldtimer's Haze starts to define budsites, but not much more.
10/14 -> Oldtimer's Haze produces abundant (and constant, with the right feeding) reflowerings, starting to ripe some of the older flowers.
9/15 or 9.5/14.5 -> This is the right photoperiod to make ripening the latest reflowerings.
The 9/15 or 9.5/14.5 photoperiod matches very well with the number of hours of light we have here on 37ºN in Xmas time/New Year, and it's the time when our outdoor Oldtimer's Hazes finally finish in my climate.
I have had much more success finishing properly Oldtimer's Haze outdoors than indoors, both regarding potency and quality of terpenes, but you will need a coastal warm climate (similar to Mediterranean, or coastal California, or Florida) in fall that has no frosts or snow even in the worst colder days to succeed. These outdoors photoperiods (from 11/13 until 9.5/14.5) along with the low temps also makes the strain to show the Purple Haze phenos in the plants that have the genetical disposition for it.
Hope it helps.
My personal experience growing and breeding with this strain for almost 15 years:
12/12 photoperiod -> Produces extreme stretching and first appearance of preflowers, although if you keep this photoperiod continuously (which is the classic photoperiod for the flowering of most strains indoors) the Oldtimer's Haze will just grow and grow without producing much flowers or without showing signs of ripening. To start with sexually matured clones instead of young seedlings lowers down drastically the size of the plants, although the stretching still will be overwhelming.
11/13 -> Stretching stops quite a bit and Oldtimer's Haze starts to define budsites, but not much more.
10/14 -> Oldtimer's Haze produces abundant (and constant, with the right feeding) reflowerings, starting to ripe some of the older flowers.
9/15 or 9.5/14.5 -> This is the right photoperiod to make ripening the latest reflowerings.
The 9/15 or 9.5/14.5 photoperiod matches very well with the number of hours of light we have here on 37ºN in Xmas time/New Year, and it's the time when our outdoor Oldtimer's Hazes finally finish in my climate.
I have had much more success finishing properly Oldtimer's Haze outdoors than indoors, both regarding potency and quality of terpenes, but you will need a coastal warm climate (similar to Mediterranean, or coastal California, or Florida) in fall that has no frosts or snow even in the worst colder days to succeed. These outdoors photoperiods (from 11/13 until 9.5/14.5) along with the low temps also makes the strain to show the Purple Haze phenos in the plants that have the genetical disposition for it.
Hope it helps.
Reporting grow OTH in mediterranian
Reporting grow OTH in mediterranian
Oldtimer's Haze was breed in United States, California, using the best Colombian strains of yesterday. Thanks all to make it possible young people like me can try this amazing hybrid of old pure sativa strains breed for smoke purpose, let call it what is it: ganja plant. : )) and i think all of us love this, because is made for fun purpose, depression leaves your soul and brain, I know that not because i have telepaty or weird powers, know that because i love Haze too. jajaja <3
Thanks all old smokers for explain the experiences and how easy can dissapear one strain, because know I know and understand, this old colombian strains was breed with indica because of the flower time and more production, fast way that makes disaper the magic, the ganja.
I think i will need 8 years for adaptate OTH in their own way, with ARTIFICIAL SELECTION for ganja purpose, to mediterranean climate, and using indoor 600w(should speed up 1-2 generation more every year). I supose good things need time, and OTH deserve this time, because we can access to the very best old strains that old smokers experience when young, like Colombian Gold, Punto rojo, purple colombian, red, green tropical, and the recombinations of this amazing haze line. The possibility are huge, but first need time to explore, since I cant grow a lot of plants, time will be valuable friend.
Here a possible green lime tropical smell and some incensed
Fun comparation OTH and PCK
Now other phenotypes, some smell fruity, others woods, other some kind of spices,
Some have gold-yellow color!! maybe is colombian gold?
Love this thread, thanks all for the shared information,
Reporting grow OTH in mediterranian
Oldtimer's Haze was breed in United States, California, using the best Colombian strains of yesterday. Thanks all to make it possible young people like me can try this amazing hybrid of old pure sativa strains breed for smoke purpose, let call it what is it: ganja plant. : )) and i think all of us love this, because is made for fun purpose, depression leaves your soul and brain, I know that not because i have telepaty or weird powers, know that because i love Haze too. jajaja <3
Thanks all old smokers for explain the experiences and how easy can dissapear one strain, because know I know and understand, this old colombian strains was breed with indica because of the flower time and more production, fast way that makes disaper the magic, the ganja.
I think i will need 8 years for adaptate OTH in their own way, with ARTIFICIAL SELECTION for ganja purpose, to mediterranean climate, and using indoor 600w(should speed up 1-2 generation more every year). I supose good things need time, and OTH deserve this time, because we can access to the very best old strains that old smokers experience when young, like Colombian Gold, Punto rojo, purple colombian, red, green tropical, and the recombinations of this amazing haze line. The possibility are huge, but first need time to explore, since I cant grow a lot of plants, time will be valuable friend.
Here a possible green lime tropical smell and some incensed
Fun comparation OTH and PCK
Now other phenotypes, some smell fruity, others woods, other some kind of spices,
Some have gold-yellow color!! maybe is colombian gold?
Love this thread, thanks all for the shared information,
Nice plants! Get ready to looong flowering time...
PS maybe i am wrong, but the Yellow leaf can be a lack of nutrients....
PS maybe i am wrong, but the Yellow leaf can be a lack of nutrients....
SolarLogos
Well-known member
Greeting my friend. OTH is not an easy plant to grow; your doing a great job if this is your first run with OTH.
They do however, look like they could use some nutrients.Are you feeding them yet? If not, you might want to start with 300 ppm of a bloom formula and adjust if needed. They do need some nitrogen, but they don't like very much. A bloom formula with a small amount of nitrogen works well in vegetation for these OTH. I've used both organic and chemical nutes and personally think organic liquid nutrients are more gentle on OTH and they respond well in both color and growth. Providing pH is in range (because they also need iron, zinc, mag, cal, etc), they should green up in a couple of days.
I'm looking forward to the rest of your grow. Thanks for posting!
Peace, God bless
Edit: I'm taking a second look at the yellow plant and it looks like it has leaf curl. Is it from heat, or is there a lot of nitrogen in the soil or have you been feeding it nitrogen? Your yellowing on that one plant can be a lack of iron/zinc maybe. What is the pH of the soil and water/feedings? If the pH is out of range, you will get a lock out of nutrients. PH too high and you lock out iron, manganese, copper, boron and zinc. If pH too low, plants can't get nitrogen, sulfur, calcium or magnesium, among others. Now you have me curious my friend
. BTW, too small of a container can also cause yellowing and deficiencies in plants, but I don't think that is the case here.
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Iron deficency: go away!!!!!
Iron deficency: go away!!!!!
Thanks por the tip!! I feel you and solarlogos have reason, when 2 different people say the same, is time to check deficiencys!!
Thank you friend hazelover!! Iron seems possible, i will follow you and willydread tips and add this nutrient: queralto de hierro (i think some type of iron)
Will post the result my friends when plants react to the new feed nutrients, thanks for the help and accept my soul into cannabis international community!!
And sorry my bad english, always learning!
Iron deficency: go away!!!!!
Thanks por the tip!! I feel you and solarlogos have reason, when 2 different people say the same, is time to check deficiencys!!
Greeting my friend. OTH is not an easy plant to grow; your doing a great job if this is your first run with OTH.
Are you feeding them yet? If not, you might want to start with 300 ppm of a bloom formula and adjust if needed. They do need some nitrogen, but they don't like very much. A bloom formula with a small amount of nitrogen works well in vegetation for these OTH. I've used both organic and chemical nutes and personally think organic liquid nutrients are more gentle on OTH and they respond well in both color and growth. Providing pH is in range (because they also need iron, zinc, mag, cal, etc), they should green up in a couple of days.
I'm looking forward to the rest of your grow. Thanks for posting!
Peace, God bless
Edit: I'm taking a second look at the yellow plant and it looks like it has leaf curl. Is it from heat, or is there a lot of nitrogen in the soil or have you been feeding it nitrogen? Your yellowing on that one plant can be a lack of iron/zinc maybe. What is the pH of the soil and water/feedings? If the pH is out of range, you will get a lock out of nutrients. PH too high and you lock out iron, manganese, copper, boron and zinc. If pH too low, plants can't get nitrogen, sulfur, calcium or magnesium, among others. Now you have me curious my friend
Thank you friend hazelover!! Iron seems possible, i will follow you and willydread tips and add this nutrient: queralto de hierro (i think some type of iron)
Will post the result my friends when plants react to the new feed nutrients, thanks for the help and accept my soul into cannabis international community!!
And sorry my bad english, always learning!
Goodherb
Well-known member
Its never get old
Its never get old
No doubt icmag/ace forum,is a time machine. I'm a younger man compared to its origin time .but reading the experiences of OTH growers and smokers are timeless.
ANKHORI, power to you, for trodden the road less travel.
I could safely say that most elegant strain never grow on this island. It will be my pleasure to grow OLD TIMER HAZE!
Its never get old
No doubt icmag/ace forum,is a time machine. I'm a younger man compared to its origin time .but reading the experiences of OTH growers and smokers are timeless.
ANKHORI, power to you, for trodden the road less travel.
I could safely say that most elegant strain never grow on this island. It will be my pleasure to grow OLD TIMER HAZE!
SolarLogos
Well-known member
Here are two of my 2 OTH. They have been stacking up little bud sites all up and down each branch. Nice to see them in early flower.
No doubt, these will finish in the greenhouse. We have 3 weeks left of summer and the temps are forecast to cool accordingly. I'm looking forward to a full greenhouse again; that's where I like to have my morning coffee and joint to start each day.
Peace, God bless
No doubt, these will finish in the greenhouse. We have 3 weeks left of summer and the temps are forecast to cool accordingly. I'm looking forward to a full greenhouse again; that's where I like to have my morning coffee and joint to start each day.
Peace, God bless
SolarLogos
Well-known member
Build a gh around them
Cheers
Greetings my friends. You're both right, they are getting a bit big for the greenhouse. They are in pots so I can still move them. The problem is, I was planning to put HPS lights in the greenhouse, but where now? I guess this is a good problem to have. I may put 4-1500 watt LED panels in there, since I would need too much room for HPS because of the heat they put off. I don't want to extend hours of light in the greenhouse, just add additional lights to supplement the sun, so my sativa's can ripen properly. We'll see how it works out....in the greenhouse? How? Beam them in? Man they're huge them lovely speciments...
Looking forward to seeing them finish on you!
orfeas
Peace, God bless
Ness bilou
Member
nice thread
i've just harvested the first green oldtimer's haze:it takes 20 weeksto see some amber trichome and 90% of brownish hairs.
Very happy with the outcome:good production,the smell begin with something metallic then change into a lemony/lime dish soap.
I also made some seed to play with,now there 's only one thing left to do...
pics of the main cola
Very happy with the outcome:good production,the smell begin with something metallic then change into a lemony/lime dish soap.
I also made some seed to play with,now there 's only one thing left to do...
pics of the main cola
