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my latest theory...

armedoldhippy

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i now think that the corona virus pandemic is fake. it is a false-flag by the global elites (ours, in other words. who else counts? shrug) to cover the murder of hundreds of thousands of elderly in assisted living facilities nationwide and elsewhere in order to keep Social Security from folding up like like an orchid in an Atlanta parking lot. sound like a loony conspiracy theory? :dance013:
 

CosmicGiggle

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What does it matter, the whole economy is about to go under, taking Soc Sec with it. We're all in the same sinking boat. :tiphat:
 

armedoldhippy

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What does it matter, the whole economy is about to go under, taking Soc Sec with it. We're all in the same sinking boat. :tiphat:

nope. money buys security. the rich only go under in movies like "Titanic"...i don't really believe my "theory", but does it not sound as plausible as dozens of other looney-bin bullshit we have been fed for the last few years? :tiphat: if it WERE true, i would want the perpetrators burned at the stake whether the economy implodes on us or not...i think most people would.:ying:
 

Frosty Nuggets

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Glad you can see through the bullshit.
They have never isolated the virus, they have not done a Koch's Postulate on it, the PCR is not a test it is a way of amplifying DNA until you get a result, use enough amplification and you get a result 100% of the time, any amplification over 35 times is meaningless (0% accuracy) and they are using anywhere between 35 and 50 times amplification and it cannot be used as a diagnostic tool (the inventor says this).:tiphat:
 

weedobix

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Sinking of the Titanic is quite big conspiracy in itself, some people think j p Morgan was involved in the sinking since his wealthy bankers rivals onboard had opposed the creation of the federal reserve and he had cancelled his trip onboard with them at the last minute.
 

mr.brunch

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Glad you can see through the bullshit.
They have never isolated the virus, they have not done a Koch's Postulate on it, the PCR is not a test it is a way of amplifying DNA until you get a result, use enough amplification and you get a result 100% of the time, any amplification over 35 times is meaningless (0% accuracy) and they are using anywhere between 35 and 50 times amplification and it cannot be used as a diagnostic tool (the inventor says this).:tiphat:

We’ve been asked to look into claims that the Covid-19 virus hasn’t been isolated, doesn’t fulfil “Koch’s postulates”, and that this means PCR diagnosis tests aren’t working.

Isolating a virus
Firstly it is incorrect to say that the virus that causes Covid-19 has not been isolated.

Isolating a virus means taking a pure sample of a virus from an infected being so it can be studied. There are numerous reports of the virus being isolated by teams around the world.

“SARS-CoV2 has been sampled millions of times over from infected people, including those originally found to be infected in China,” Dr Stephen Griffin, a virologist and Associate Professor at Leeds Institute of Medical Research, told Full Fact.

Koch’s postulates
It’s also incorrect to say that the virus that causes Covid-19 would need to meet Koch’s postulates, primarily because Koch’s postulates weren’t written for viruses.

Koch’s postulates were a set of rules outlined by scientist Robert Koch in 1890 to decide whether a bacteria causes a disease. The original four criteria are:

“1. The microorganism must be found in the diseased animal, and not found in healthy animals.

“2. The microorganism must be extracted and isolated from the diseased animal and subsequently grown in culture.

“3. The microorganism must cause disease when introduced to a healthy experimental animal.

“4. The microorganism must be extracted from the diseased experimental animal and demonstrated to be the same microorganism that was originally isolated from the first diseased animal.”

As noted by many, these criteria were written before the discovery of viruses, so fail to include them in their consideration of what a disease is.

Dr Griffin outlined other shortcomings in Koch’s rules.

“The first postulate in particular is void as even at Koch’s time (which he later admitted)” he told us. “Folks knew that you could catch e.g. Cholera without necessarily becoming unwell - asymptomatic infection is a massive issue for these ideas (first and third postulates), as is the arrival of molecular biology!”

Another of Koch’s postulates was that bacteria must be able to be isolated from the host. Viruses, unlike bacteria, require host cells in which to replicate, so also cannot be isolated in the same way Koch defined with bacteria, which according to Dr Griffin, required “culture as in a flask of media, so viruses don’t fit this idea.”

So simply put, Koch’s postulates are not a good measure of what causes disease in 2020.

PCR tests
We also know that PCR tests are identifying the virus that causes Covid-19 and working well.

As we have written before, PCR tests used in Covid-19 testing are extremely sensitive and specific at detecting Covid-19 and do not confuse other coronaviruses, such as ones that cause the common cold, for Covid-19.

“The PCR test is incredibly stringent and specific, requires two separate reactions to be positive ... and EVERY test is also sequenced, so we know it is SARS-CoV2 and not another virus,” said Dr Griffin.

So in summary, Covid-19 has been isolated, Koch’s postulates don’t have to universally apply for something to cause disease, and tests to identify the Covid-19 virus do work.
 

EsterEssence

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Great Idea only problem is a lot of other countries don’t have social security, they have a family that takes care of their elders...
 

mr.brunch

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There must be a conspiracy guess somewhere that says nukes aren’t real... they were a cover for the CIA to takeover japan...
 

Zeez

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i now think that the corona virus pandemic is fake. it is a false-flag by the global elites (ours, in other words. who else counts? shrug) to cover the murder of hundreds of thousands of elderly in assisted living facilities nationwide and elsewhere in order to keep Social Security from folding up like like an orchid in an Atlanta parking lot. sound like a loony conspiracy theory? :dance013:

I'm surprised you think this way.

Covid took my next door neighbor. 52 year old lady with two teenage kids.
 
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Poor old Hippie is becoming cynical. All those years of his battling against the establishment has come to naught. The establishment is winning.

I really like your descriptive writing, AOH, but instead of like dying orchids the country go down in a stinking pile of inflated and worthless banknotes.
The question is: will AOH go down too ... defeated in the end by a lifetime of Hope? Will we all?



i now think that the corona virus pandemic is fake. it is a false-flag by the global elites (ours, in other words. who else counts? shrug) to cover the murder of hundreds of thousands of elderly in assisted living facilities nationwide and elsewhere in order to keep Social Security from folding up like like an orchid in an Atlanta parking lot. sound like a loony conspiracy theory? :dance013:
 

armedoldhippy

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I'm surprised you think this way.

Covid took my next door neighbor. 52 year old lady with two teenage kids.

i don't think this way. you must have missed the post (#4) where i said i did not really believe it. i was just pointing out how easy it is to say something absolutely off the fucking wall & folks run with it. i've been exposed 3 times (that i know of) quarantined twice, and pretty damn sure i had a "mild" case of it the first go-round. we REALLY need a "sarcasticon" so folks know their leg is being pulled...:tiphat:
 

unclefishstick

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Chumps or Bidens? they BOTH promised it...




but i bet joe actually does it...and in a show of unity the rightys won't have to use the newly paved lanes on the road,they will leave potholes and such in one so they don't have to drive on commie socialism roads!
 
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