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Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?
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Veggia farmer
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Anyone got a Covid-pass, yet?
just ad a in your eyes good paper on vaccines and ill add it to the first post.
i didnt post that article to help you make up your mind, its there because it had some good points in it. add as many studies as you want, fact is this thing was brought out in record time and its an experimental vaccine. it might well work, although the many qualifiers in official info makes me wonder if it actually prevents the spread or just prevents a severe case developing? most cases under 80 are not severe, so what does that tell you.
context is everything. you really gonna make me waste my time rehashing this.
microbman was saying that the site i took Engdals article from is disreputable, hence it can be ignored as misinformation.
my answer to this point was that if you want to judge a mans writing by the site he is on, then Microbmans own writings here on microbs, would be considered as being on a disreputable site too by 99% of scientists in the world. that was my point. remember i said if.
why the fuck are we still surging when we have all been wearing masks, closing shops working at home, limiting meetings to 5 people with distancing and masks. because covid shits on our masks and laughs its head off at how foolish we look wondering around the streets wearing them. roflmao.
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Trouble is, I did not say that. As I already pointed out, you must be confusing me with another member.
EDIT; https://www.icmag.com/ic/showpost.php?p=9083175&postcount=67
This is the closest I came to saying what you have stated and I was speaking strictly about the article posted. No where did I say anything about the site that the article came from being disreputable, however others did. In retrospect, I should not have even used the word 'site'; 'link' was the better word.
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my question: why is it necessary to vaccinate everyone, when most people (80%) are non-symptomatic or mild reaction? kind of like the flu, except for the comorbidities.
people have had a year to drop weight and get healthy, but a vaccine is easier?
and, again, covid19 is going to become resistant to the vaccine, just like antibiotic resistance - the same biology is in effect.
if people would just stop spreading it for 2 weeks, it would die out. that's too hard evidently.
people have had a year to drop weight and get healthy, but a vaccine is easier?
and, again, covid19 is going to become resistant to the vaccine, just like antibiotic resistance - the same biology is in effect.
if people would just stop spreading it for 2 weeks, it would die out. that's too hard evidently.
you are playing word games here while ignoring the core. whether you said disreputable or full of misinformation the point remains.
imiubu
Well-known member
I too ponder this. Perhaps more (ALL) folks should.
This has been my stance since the launch of this very sloppy deception (pandemic) of mass proportions.
I am still awe struck and utterly disappointed by the willingness of my fellow humans to simply follow the status quo without ever questioning... well... anything, actually.
watching a press converence from the Swiss government's health ministry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6muLQ_ePGc
after going through the daily case numbers, death rates and hospitalization rates in the different provinces and talking about the fact that the new British version is here too, he starts about the vaccine.
apparently the vaccine drive will only be successful, get this, if the numbers go down. some how if the numbers don't get reduced while we are vaccinating, then the vaccine can't be successful!!!??? wtf? i thought the vaccine will protect you and reduce the numbers? anyone understand what is meant?
then he goes on to explain that this vaccine is very complicated to give, it come in a bottle frozen at minus 70, has to be defrosted, then gently turned a few times, NOT shaken. then you have to add iv liquid and again turn the bottle, not shake it. if it has a homogenous color its good to use, then you take a tinny (0.3ml) amount in a syringe and give it in the muscle. but all this must be done fast as it goes off in a few hours and has to be binned if unused.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6muLQ_ePGc
after going through the daily case numbers, death rates and hospitalization rates in the different provinces and talking about the fact that the new British version is here too, he starts about the vaccine.
apparently the vaccine drive will only be successful, get this, if the numbers go down. some how if the numbers don't get reduced while we are vaccinating, then the vaccine can't be successful!!!??? wtf? i thought the vaccine will protect you and reduce the numbers? anyone understand what is meant?
then he goes on to explain that this vaccine is very complicated to give, it come in a bottle frozen at minus 70, has to be defrosted, then gently turned a few times, NOT shaken. then you have to add iv liquid and again turn the bottle, not shake it. if it has a homogenous color its good to use, then you take a tinny (0.3ml) amount in a syringe and give it in the muscle. but all this must be done fast as it goes off in a few hours and has to be binned if unused.
okay, sounds like we all be good to go, after all, what could possibly go wrong?
yeah im with you, totally ready to pass go and collect 200 sfr, lol.
the good news, a normal non experimental vaccine is getting close to being certified for use by swiss medic, i might wait for that one. 20min propaganda paper here said that only about a third of health care professionals in Switzerland are ready to take the moderna vaccine. meanwhile they are busy giving it to the elderly, while refusing to take it themself lol.
I never even looked at the site of origin, I will admit to using the word site in place of link or article which was stupid of me. I only ever was talking about the article and lack of legitimate literature which I linked to twice. Other posters did have a problem with the site of origin. Why are you not similarly trolling them?
If you can find me discussing the site of origin please show me.
Veggia farmer
Well-known member
No reaction on covid pass???
Look at the end game, please...
Look at the end game, please...
I would question the accuracy of the statement “we have all been wearing masks”.
Taiwan is an example that actually has, and until ten days ago hadn’t had a locally transmitted case in 254 days, 7 deaths total from covid.
It’s not rocket science, they did it without vaccines. It was actually enforced, with adequate testing. Testing and contact tracing are seriously lacking along with a uniform response from both the public and public officials.
Didn’t Switzerland take the herd immunity option at first and only recently start the mask fad?
i know the Europeans are all the same to you, but Sweden is not Switzerland. we never went herd immunity. we have had a mask mandate since many months now and the numbers have just kept going up. in the end closing restaurants, bar and clubs is what slowly stopped the rise of cases but didnt reduce them. so tell me how masks are working when the numbers kept going up higher and higher even months after strict mask laws were implemented with people getting fined for smoking at a bus stop by them selves. so no the masks are not working to stop the spread. only distancing is working. the governments numbers speak a clear language.
just take a toke from a joint and hold it in, now put your face nappy on and exhale, what do you see? smoke rushing out on the sides on top and under. no smoke goes through the mask. what does that tell you?
