Covid 19 mrna Vaccines...Yes/No?

[mr.brunch]

The spike protein isn’t a virus and doesn’t cause damage- and a vaccinated person isn’t genetically modified.

 

[unclefishstick]

The spike protein isn’t a virus and doesn’t cause damage- and a vaccinated person isn’t genetically modified.

don't try and confuse the chicken little crowd with facts

 

[Amynamous]

don't try and confuse the chicken little crowd with facts

They probably saw it on INSTA-FACE-TWIT.

 

[unclefishstick]

They probably saw it on INSTA-FACE-TWIT.

you forgot youtube!

my citation for that factoid came from clickbaitnews.com,so totally legit

 

[Doctor M]

 

[mexcurandero420]

The spike protein isn’t a virus and doesn’t cause damage- and a vaccinated person isn’t genetically modified.

Spike protein is a component of the virus and new research from the Salk institute shows it does cause damage in the body.Its a bit comparable with a bacteria like Salmonella, because its not the bacteria which make you ill, but the toxins it produces, lyme disease idem dito.

https://www.salk.edu/news-release/t...protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/

The artificial mRNA can put changes in your DNA, so in that term sort of speak your genetic modified.

 

[BudToaster]

i can hardly wait until the first (of many) rounds of "booster" shots start rolling out ... it will be the same old shit, different day. i ain't doing no stinkin' boosters.

 

[mowood3479]

The spike protein isn’t a virus and doesn’t cause damage- and a vaccinated person isn’t genetically modified.

And of course I’m sure you have long term clinical trials in humans that prove this? You know just like every other vaccine we have ever had...

seems strange one would make a guarantee that it doesn’t do damage without ANY data that shows how a human immune system reacts to an mRNA vaccine after longer than 7 months...

We have a lot of data that shows the vaccine is pretty safe and causes relatively few damaging side effects in the short term (less than 6 months)..,
but there is a lot we don’t know about the long term effects on the immune system and human body as a whole..

to make assertions otherwise just isnt backed by the science.... yea we are all hopeful that it causes no long term harm... but up to this point hopes and wishes had never Been enough to clear the hurdle of fda approval

 

[Amynamous]

Spike protein is a component of the virus and new research from the Salk institute shows it does cause damage in the body.Its a bit comparable with a bacteria like Salmonella, because its not the bacteria which make you ill, but the toxins it produces, lyme disease idem dito.

https://www.salk.edu/news-release/t...protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/

The artificial mRNA can put changes in your DNA, so in that term sort of speak your genetic modified.

Thanks for the article!
I’ve pasted the first three paragraphs below. The part in bold disputes your vax spike theory. Even if scientists do confirm that it is possible for mRNA produced spike proteins that can cause harm in some people, the amount of spike protein formed by a mRNA vaccine pales in comparison to what is produced by a symptomatically infected person.
Also, Nowhere in the article do they confirm that mRNA vaccines change your DNA.


LA JOLLA—Scientists have known for a while that SARS-CoV-2’s distinctive “spike” proteins help the virus infect its host by latching on to healthy cells. Now, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines) also play a key role in the disease itself.

The paper, published on April 30, 2021, in Circulation Research, also shows conclusively that COVID-19 is a vascular disease, demonstrating exactly how the SARS-CoV-2 virus damages and attacks the vascular system on a cellular level. The findings help explain COVID-19’s wide variety of seemingly unconnected complications, and could open the door for new research into more effective therapies.

“A lot of people think of it as a respiratory disease, but it’s really a vascular disease,” says Assistant Research Professor Uri Manor, who is co-senior author of the study. “That could explain why some people have strokes, and why some people have issues in other parts of the body. The commonality between them is that they all have vascular underpinnings.”

 

[Doctor M]

First Fauci debunks mask and social distancing effectivness in his emails, now the World Health Organization proves the dangers of the "Covid" Shot.

Of course this evidence will challenge many people's reality so I expect some hard spin and attacks from the pro big Pharma, Fauci fan club.

Covid-19 Vaccines Lead to New Infections and Mortality: The Evidence is Overwhelming


by Dr. Gérard Delépine
GlobalResearch.ca

This article By Dr Gérard Delépine was first published in French on our French language website mondialisation.ca

The English text below is an AI Translation with some minor edits by Global Research.

———————

Two months ago, we tried to alert people to the paradoxical results of the covid19 vaccines by publishing the pre- and post-vaccination mortality curves for Israel and Great Britain [SUP][1][/SUP] which already showed that these vaccinations were followed by ‘a considerable increase in contamination and mortality lasting 6 to 8 weeks after the start of vaccination. [SUP][2][/SUP]

Since this period, vaccination campaigns have spread worldwide even to countries where covid was not present. And everywhere they have been followed by a dramatic rise in new infections and mortality for several weeks or months. [SUP][3][/SUP]

How many deaths and severe accidents will it take for executives, WHO, health agencies FDA, EMA among others, to look at the proven results of this experimental pseudo-vaccination in the real world and derive the results from it? consequences ?
Reminder of the proven facts published by the WHO


We present below the epidemic curves of the most vaccinated countries as published by the WHO (with our comments in red).

Continued.....
https://www.mondialisation.ca/lhecat...-monde/5656922

 

[mexcurandero420]

Thanks for the article!
I’ve pasted the first three paragraphs below. The part in bold disputes your vax spike theory. Even if scientists do confirm that it is possible for mRNA produced spike proteins that can cause harm in some people, the amount of spike protein formed by a mRNA vaccine pales in comparison to what is produced by a symptomatically infected person.
Also, Nowhere in the article do they confirm that mRNA vaccines change your DNA.


LA JOLLA—Scientists have known for a while that SARS-CoV-2’s distinctive “spike” proteins help the virus infect its host by latching on to healthy cells. Now, a major new study shows that the virus spike proteins (which behave very differently than those safely encoded by vaccines) also play a key role in the disease itself.

The paper, published on April 30, 2021, in Circulation Research, also shows conclusively that COVID-19 is a vascular disease, demonstrating exactly how the SARS-CoV-2 virus damages and attacks the vascular system on a cellular level. The findings help explain COVID-19’s wide variety of seemingly unconnected complications, and could open the door for new research into more effective therapies.

“A lot of people think of it as a respiratory disease, but it’s really a vascular disease,” says Assistant Research Professor Uri Manor, who is co-senior author of the study. “That could explain why some people have strokes, and why some people have issues in other parts of the body. The commonality between them is that they all have vascular underpinnings.”

We see that in real life how differently those vaccines spike proteins behave compared to the natural spike proteins.Strokes, heart disease, brain damage like the woman with tremors after her vaccine or people just die a few days after.Yep its completely safe, thats why we running a phase III trail and the vaccinated should report the side effects.In the meanwhile news came out that covid patients got treated with Midazolam.

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[mr.brunch]

Spike protein is a component of the virus and new research from the Salk institute shows it does cause damage in the body.Its a bit comparable with a bacteria like Salmonella, because its not the bacteria which make you ill, but the toxins it produces, lyme disease idem dito.

https://www.salk.edu/news-release/t...protein-plays-additional-key-role-in-illness/

The artificial mRNA can put changes in your DNA, so in that term sort of speak your genetic modified.

I hadn’t heard about the spike protein thing, thanks.
but from what I hear the mRNA breaks down pretty fast after the jab?
I had the Oxford vaccine (2 shots) so no mRNA in that one

 

[mexcurandero420]

Professor Bhakdi: blood clotting in more than 30% of the vaccinated! The concerns about blood clotting and thrombosis as a result of the corona vaccinations have been confirmed, says Professor Sucharit Bhakdi. The numbers are terrifying and exceed his worst expectations. Bhakdi said at an Ärzte für Aufklärung meeting in Hamburg that the side effects of the vaccinations will exceed even the worst fears. At the beginning of January, he already expressed his concerns about the side effects in his latest book Corona unmasked. In a chapter that he made accessible to everyone, he warns that the vaccines can trigger chain reactions in the immune system that activate blood clotting. This risk of blood clots and thrombosis was ignored by many of his colleagues, politicians, as well as the vaccine makers. Passed their exam A German doctor who had taken blood samples from patients contacted Bhakdi. He found that the vaccinations had activated blood clotting in more than 30 percent of the cases. A doctor from Bavaria came to similar results. Bhakdi also said tens of thousands of doctors have "failed their exams" in recent months for ignoring symptoms of a possible cerebral vein thrombosis and sending their patients home with headache medication. Evidence that the damage was caused by the vaccination The microbiologist further said that vaccinating children and young people poses irresponsible risks. He advises everyone who wants to be vaccinated to have the D-dimer value tested before and after vaccination. An increased level of D-dimer in the blood may indicate the formation of blood clots. In the event of complications, such a test can serve as proof that the damage was caused by the vaccination.

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[BudToaster]

I hadn’t heard about the spike protein thing, thanks.
but from what I hear the mRNA breaks down pretty fast after the jab?
I had the Oxford vaccine (2 shots) so no mRNA in that one

well, almost right - no mRNA in the jab, but there is DNA in the jab, that enters the muscle cell nucleus, uses the peptides that hang out there to create the mRNA which then exits the nucleus and is carried to the ribosomes, where the spike protein is generated - just like in the mRNA jabs.

my guess is the DNA vs mRNA is to avoid licensing fees.

 

[mr.brunch]

Possibly-it’s a Traditional vaccine type and uses a cold virus to carry the dna - also being provided at cost price

 

[BudToaster]

Possibly-it’s a Traditional vaccine type and uses a cold virus to carry the dna - also being provided at cost price

it uses a chimpanzee virus to carry the dna for the spike, under the theory that since humans don't get infected by that chimp virus it will be recognized by the immune system - like an adjuvant to spice things up for the immune system.

 

[trichrider]

WARNING: Renowned Virologist Sucharit Bhakdi Warns Against Gene-Altering Coronavirus Vaccine


https://rumble.com/embed/v8y09t/?pub=4

 

[mowood3479]

https://apple.news/Ap2AXtxPgS2OL6MEbWLSgug

Interesting story in the Washington Post.

Excerpts:
“Citing increased hospitalization rates of teenagers with covid-19 in March and April, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Rochelle Walensky urged parents to vaccinate their teens to protect them from an illness that can be severe even among young people.”

“The study showed that nearly one-third of those teenagers hospitalized with covid-19 during a surge of cases early this year required intensive care, and 5 percent required mechanical ventilation. While most covid-19 hospitalizations occur in older adults, severe disease that requires hospitalization has been shown to occur in all age groups. Covid-19 hospitalization rates among adolescents declined in January and February 2021, the report said, but increased during March and April, even as hospitalization rates stabilized for those 65 and older, likely because of their higher rates of vaccination.”

“Researchers suggest the increased hospitalization among adolescents in March and April may be related to several factors, including more transmissible and potentially more dangerous virus variants, larger numbers of youths returning to school, and changes in physical distancing, mask-wearing and other prevention behaviors.”

“The study looked at 204 youths ages 12 to 17 who were hospitalized between Jan. 1 and March 31; about 31 percent were admitted to an intensive care unit and 5 percent required invasive mechanical ventilation. None of the youths died.”


One of the biggest comorbidities mentioned in the article was obesity.
Anyone know how many American kids are obese?

by BMI (which is kind of a crappy metric)
it’s about 20%

 

[aridbud]

Will a COVID-19 vaccine alter my DNA?

No. COVID-19 vaccines do not change or interact with your DNA in any way.

There are currently two types of COVID-19 vaccines that have been authorized and recommended for use in the United States: messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccines and a viral vector vaccine. Both mRNA and viral vector COVID-19 vaccines deliver instructions (genetic material) to our cells to start building protection against the virus that causes COVID-19. However, the material never enters the nucleus of the cell, which is where our DNA is kept. This means the genetic material in the vaccines cannot affect or interact with our DNA in any way. All COVID-19 vaccines work with the body’s natural defenses to safely develop immunity to disease.

 

[BudToaster]

keep drinking the cool aid ... both the mRNA and the DNA delivered by the jab CAN get integrated into the host DNA - that shit happens all the time and has happened throughout human evolution ... now, whether there is enough in the jab that DOES get integrated, and has a wider effect is JUST NOT KNOWN AT THIS TIME, but several studies say that it can be done.