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    #31
    Vaccines usually take ten years or more to be developed and approved of. Vaccines can be nasty business sometimes - serious side effects etc. I´m not gonna get one, at least not yet. There´s several for corona and I wanna see which one is best and safe first.

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      #32
      The process of developing vaccines is in the computer age.

      Our medical professionals will be the canaries.
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        #33
        I would like to take people like Bill Gates and the other Reptilians on a stage in front of the World on live TV
        and ask them if I can vaccinate them with a random syringe picked from a vaccine box intended for the sheep.

        I bet Billie and others would say they already got their shots.

        Note: Any Doctor who goes against this culling is probably going to lose their medical license for some unknown reason.
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          #34
          Some of the vaccines were declared unsafe for anyone with asthma in the 70's. So I never had the MMR jab. Do you think they knew that when developing them or after a bunch of asthmatics died from taking them? Side effects can take a while to show.
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            #35
            the US "medical" industry has a proven TERRIBLE record of reporting Adverse Events - from American biotech & related medical tech.

            they are as worthy of Trust - as Mr. Trump himself.
            Never Under-estimate the Psychopathic-ness of a Politician

            who is in Save the Children Mode.

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              #36
              Would be interesting to see a global survey of the different vaccines along with their benefits and liabilities.
              That which matters most

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                #37
                Originally posted by Gry View Post
                Would be interesting to see a global survey of the different vaccines along with their benefits and liabilities.
                If I am not mistaken... the govt is not liable for anything wrt to Covid and treatments.
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                  #38
                  No need for vaccines, COVID pandemic is over, says Former Vice President of Pfizer


                  While Pfizer pharmaceutical had made headlines on the release of their Coronavirus vaccine, a former Vice President and Chief Scientist of the company Dr. Michael Yeadon has said that there is no need for any vaccines to bring the COVID-19 pandemic to an end.

                  According to an article published in Lockdown Sceptics, Dr. Michael Yeadon wrote, “There is absolutely no need for vaccines to extinguish the pandemic. I’ve never heard such nonsense talked about vaccines. You do not vaccinate people who aren’t at risk from a disease. You also don’t set about planning to vaccinate millions of fit and healthy people with a vaccine that hasn’t been extensively tested on human subjects.”

                  His comments come at the end of a comprehensive criticism of the Scientific Advisor Group for Emergencies (SAGE), a government agency of the U.K. tasked with advising the central government in emergencies.

                  SAGE has played an important role in determining public lockdown policies in the UK, as a response to the COVID-19 virus.

                  Yeadon also highlights fundamental errors by SAGE in their presuppositions which cause their overall conclusions to go radically awry leading to the “torturing [of] the population for the last seven months or so.”

                  “ SAGE says everyone was susceptible and only 7% have been infected. I think this is literally unbelievable. They have ignored all precedent in the field of immunological memory against respiratory viruses. They have either not seen or disregarded excellent quality work from numerous, world-leading clinical immunologists which show that around 30% of the population had prior immunity.”

                  “They should also have excluded from ‘susceptible’ a large subset of the youngest children, who appear not to become infected, probably because their immature biology means their cells express less of the spike protein receptor, called ACE2. I have not assumed all young children don’t participate in transmission, but believe a two thirds value is very conservative. It’s not material anyway,” Yeadon wrote

                  “So SAGE is demonstrably wrong in one really crucial variable: they assumed no prior immunity, whereas the evidence clearly points to a value of around 30% (and nearly 40% if you include some young children, who technically are ‘resistant’ rather than ‘immune’),” wrote Yeadon

                  And considering the reality of herd immunity, when susceptibility to a virus falls this low, at around 28 to 35%, “that population can no longer support an expanding outbreak of disease,” and thus the virus “wanes and disappears.”

                  “The pandemic is effectively over and can easily be handled by a properly functioning NHS (National Health Service). Accordingly, the country should immediately be permitted to get back to normal life.” concludes Yeadon

                  Here is the link to the entire article: https://lockdownsceptics.org/what-sage-got-wrong/
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                    #39
                    An alternative to the vaccine that I think some people may eventually do, is to deliberately expose themselves to measurable, extremely small quantities of the virus.

                    This is after having better stats about the combination of Vitamin D & the Zinc Ionophore family of medications (Ivermectin is doing better than HCQ in the studies that have been done.) So they can prepare their immune systems before exposure.


                    I would be more likely to get a vaccine in another country, e.g. New Zealand, if it was home-grown. I would say, or Taiwan, but I can't read the language. I trust their culture more than the US, to do a vaccine honestly.


                    For some people, Covid19 is like Leprosy - a long term disease. Covid19 affects almost all or all, the organ systems, probably more than Leprosy.
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by mexcurandero420 View Post
                      No need for vaccines, COVID pandemic is over, says Former Vice President of Pfizer


                      While Pfizer pharmaceutical had made headlines on the release of their Coronavirus vaccine, a former Vice President and Chief Scientist of the company Dr. Michael Yeadon has said that there is no need for any vaccines to bring the COVID-19 pandemic to an end.

                      According to an article published in Lockdown Sceptics, Dr. Michael Yeadon wrote, “There is absolutely no need for vaccines to extinguish the pandemic. I’ve never heard such nonsense talked about vaccines. You do not vaccinate people who aren’t at risk from a disease. You also don’t set about planning to vaccinate millions of fit and healthy people with a vaccine that hasn’t been extensively tested on human subjects.”

                      His comments come at the end of a comprehensive criticism of the Scientific Advisor Group for Emergencies (SAGE), a government agency of the U.K. tasked with advising the central government in emergencies.

                      SAGE has played an important role in determining public lockdown policies in the UK, as a response to the COVID-19 virus.

                      Yeadon also highlights fundamental errors by SAGE in their presuppositions which cause their overall conclusions to go radically awry leading to the “torturing [of] the population for the last seven months or so.”

                      “ SAGE says everyone was susceptible and only 7% have been infected. I think this is literally unbelievable. They have ignored all precedent in the field of immunological memory against respiratory viruses. They have either not seen or disregarded excellent quality work from numerous, world-leading clinical immunologists which show that around 30% of the population had prior immunity.”

                      “They should also have excluded from ‘susceptible’ a large subset of the youngest children, who appear not to become infected, probably because their immature biology means their cells express less of the spike protein receptor, called ACE2. I have not assumed all young children don’t participate in transmission, but believe a two thirds value is very conservative. It’s not material anyway,” Yeadon wrote

                      “So SAGE is demonstrably wrong in one really crucial variable: they assumed no prior immunity, whereas the evidence clearly points to a value of around 30% (and nearly 40% if you include some young children, who technically are ‘resistant’ rather than ‘immune’),” wrote Yeadon

                      And considering the reality of herd immunity, when susceptibility to a virus falls this low, at around 28 to 35%, “that population can no longer support an expanding outbreak of disease,” and thus the virus “wanes and disappears.”

                      “The pandemic is effectively over and can easily be handled by a properly functioning NHS (National Health Service). Accordingly, the country should immediately be permitted to get back to normal life.” concludes Yeadon

                      Here is the link to the entire article: https://lockdownsceptics.org/what-sage-got-wrong/
                      The forward projections are frightening, it would be wonderful if this gentleman were correct.
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by St. Phatty View Post
                        the US "medical" industry has a proven TERRIBLE record of reporting Adverse Events - from American biotech & related medical tech.they are as worthy of Trust - as Mr. Trump himself.
                        what a load of B U L L S H I T .... check out every tv ad for drugs... a 60 sec ad is comprised of 5sec's what it will cure, and the balance 55sec's are the possible 'ADVERSE' side effects...

                        go try the putin vaccine for the fukin CHINESE WUHAN VIRUS ... it was tested and proven on 2 dozen people...

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                          #42
                          In the USA, all vaccine manufacturers are legally not responsible for any damages that occur, they are fully legally protected by the Gov in the form of the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, but I have no idea about in Canada.

                          Some health and safety information about the vaccines in question, to the best of my knowledge, as it doesn't seem to be known by the vast majority of people right now;

                          #1. The vaccine has been declared over 95% effective. That is to say 95% effective at preventing the Covid-19 disease. What this *actually* means, is 95% effective at preventing *symptoms*. There is no data whatsoever that tells us they prevent *infection* of the *sars-cov-2* *virus*.
                          (note the language difference; c19=disease, disease=symtomology, sc2=virus, infection is through virus, not disease)

                          #2. The vaccines (mRNA) do not write into your DNA, they write into your RNA. They force your RNA to produce proteins from the spikes of the sars-cov-2 virus, in order to induce an immune response. We do not know yet how long this production of virus proteins and stimulation of the immune system will last, or if it will be the same in everyone, but it is being *assumed* that it will be a short period before you need to be reinjected. This *type* of vaccine has never been released to the public before ever, so we have no idea what kind of long term health effects could arise from manipulating our immune systems through writing into our RNA. There is a potential this could cure many chronic illnesses (cure is potentially a misnomer here, but for the sake of argument), but it is also possible it could cause auto-immune dysfunction later on.


                          So if someone has serious comorbidities, these vaccines could potentially save their lives, and is really applicable in this way as it has not been shown to prevent infection or the spread of infection. But if you had serious comorbidities or auto-immune dysfunction, would you take the risk of taking a medicine that has real potential to cause auto-immune dysfunctions? That is a choice everyone will have to make.

                          These statements are not medical advice and I am not a doctor, but you can do your own research and verify or disprove anything I have said. In fact, if you have evidence that contradicts what I am saying, I would very much like to read it. Thanks everyone and stay safe.
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                            #43
                            When somebody tries to vaccinate you. Ask them for Government identification with their home address.

                            When they ask why. Tell them what are they hiding?
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                              #44
                              ^^^^

                              are people walking up to you on the street, troutman, trying to poke you with needles?

                              you actually might want to report that to police... and reconsider where you're gonna be romping around

                              Originally posted by Thesearch View Post
                              ...

                              but it is also possible it could cause auto-immune dysfunction later on.


                              ...

                              real potential to cause auto-immune dysfunctions?
                              could you elaborate on this and provide relevant literature please?

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                                #45
                                Don't forget infecting us with a chimp illness. Covid is a bat illness adapted for humans, and they suggest the answer is to mutate a chimp illness for humans. The old woman who swallowed a fly comes to mind.
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