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    It is rather interesting how politicized masks have become.

    Natural selection and all that.

    Maybe secession wouldn't be the worst thing.
    Life's most persistent and urgent question is, "What are you doing for others?"
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    People seldom do what they believe in. They do what is convenient, then repent.
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      i keep reading statements to the effect that if only there was more folks wearing masks, or social distancing, if only we locked down earlier, if only boogie would take it seriously , if only we didnt have boris, or trump, then covid would never have been a big deal. thats all bull shit, this is an air borne virus, it escapes your mask as soon as you spend longer with people in a closed space. this is one of those situations where we humans have to understand that we are not all powerful and the smallest thing can bring us down. not matter which moron sits atop the mountain. we swiss have a great logical sensible government and we still have some of the highest case numbers in the world right now. maybe the vaccine will help, but thats it, nothing else except warmer weather. a new leader certainly won't make any difference. as long as 1 person is spreading covid to more then 1 other you have an exponential problem. how many people live alone? how many in groups? thats the problem and it's impossible to solve without literally splitting families apart. yes closing restaurants, clubs and gyms will help, but the main driver is the family units and there is absolutely nothing you can do about that without bringing in tyranny worse then any covid could be.




      "it is clear that the individual who persecutes a man, his brother, because he is not of his opinion.....is a monster" Voltaire

      not every post you disagree with, has to be responded to!

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        Originally posted by Frosty Nuggets View Post
        2.7% of those vaccinated will have adverse reactions, get it right.
        don't worry, i'm not the one here that has to "get it right"


        Originally posted by Frosty Nuggets View Post
        2.7% have had adverse reactions, that's worse than the virus, you can keep your vaccination.
        :

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          Originally posted by gaiusmarius View Post
          i keep reading statements to the effect that if only there was more folks wearing masks, or social distancing, if only we locked down earlier, if only boogie would take it seriously , if only we didnt have boris, or trump, then covid would never have been a big deal. thats all bull shit, this is an air borne virus, it escapes your mask as soon as you spend longer with people in a closed space. this is one of those situations where we humans have to understand that we are not all powerful and the smallest thing can bring us down. not matter which moron sits atop the mountain. we swiss have a great logical sensible government and we still have some of the highest case numbers in the world right now. maybe the vaccine will help, but thats it, nothing else except warmer weather. a new leader certainly won't make any difference. as long as 1 person is spreading covid to more then 1 other you have an exponential problem. how many people live alone? how many in groups? thats the problem and it's impossible to solve without literally splitting families apart. yes closing restaurants, clubs and gyms will help, but the main driver is the family units and there is absolutely nothing you can do about that without bringing in tyranny worse then any covid could be.
          The countries which did practice public health, and are now back to normal, had families which now enjoy things like ball games without a mortality rate one would expect in time of war.
          Was there more tyranny in locking down tighter for a shorter period of time, as they did ?
          Or was there more tyranny in lingering half steps that have now been going on for almost a year with conditions deteriorating, offering little hope for change with out a level of vaccine compliance that is no where in sight ?
          That which matters most

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            well said

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              why not just vaccinate the peeps who are known to be most at risk - obese, type 2 diabetes, smokers, hypertensives, etc. - the mutations appear to occur more in peeps who are sick longer so it can self-select to survive. quarantine these peeps.

              and vaccinate the bats, too, don't forget. at least the ones that make it to market.
              Bud Toaster, Model 15 version 1 --> The Herbal Cube, Model 15 version 4.

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                won't vaccinating the bats be impossible, counterintuitive, or redundant?? firstly, the vaccine was designed for humans... guessing inter-species vaccination with the same vaccine is prolly a no-go... second, it is my understanding that the vaccine only protects the vaccinated who can still be asymptomatic carriers, correct?

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                  I look forward to being able to learn more about the differences between the various vaccines.
                  Understand the Cuban medical industry has at least 3 available which were developed using the "traditional" approach.
                  That which matters most

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                    Originally posted by BudToaster View Post
                    why not just vaccinate the peeps who are known to be most at risk - obese, type 2 diabetes, smokers, hypertensives, etc. - the mutations appear to occur more in peeps who are sick longer so it can self-select to survive. quarantine these peeps.

                    and vaccinate the bats, too, don't forget. at least the ones that make it to market.
                    ROTFL!

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                      So many still in the cave watching the shadows on the wall.

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                        For anyone planning a specific time-frame for vaccination, re. a specific event, from the CDC:

                        >>""How long will it take to build immunity after getting the COVID-19 vaccine?
                        It typically takes a few weeks for the body to build immunity after vaccination. That means it's possible a person could be infected with the virus that causes COVID-19 just before or just after vaccination and get sick. This is because the vaccine has not had enough time to provide protection.""<<

                        Seems that if I wanted to get vaxxed before my flights in mid-January, even IF vaccinations were available (and they may likely not be), there's a long enough delay until protection is provided that it nearly becomes moot in my case, at least as far as THAT specific exposure is involved..

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                          Originally posted by Gry View Post
                          The countries which did practice public health, and are now back to normal, had families which now enjoy things like ball games without a mortality rate one would expect in time of war.
                          Was there more tyranny in locking down tighter for a shorter period of time, as they did ?
                          Or was there more tyranny in lingering half steps that have now been going on for almost a year with conditions deteriorating, offering little hope for change with out a level of vaccine compliance that is no where in sight ?
                          interesting, tell me which countries are now back to normal?




                          "it is clear that the individual who persecutes a man, his brother, because he is not of his opinion.....is a monster" Voltaire

                          not every post you disagree with, has to be responded to!

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                            Brother already got the vaccine, wife gets it Monday. Apparently a facility can order what they want within reason, without backing up the need with an actual head count. wife’s place is getting an extra 80-100 doses over their need, not sure where those will end up.

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                              Originally posted by gaiusmarius View Post
                              i keep reading statements to the effect that if only there was more folks wearing masks, or social distancing, if only we locked down earlier, if only boogie would take it seriously , if only we didnt have boris, or trump, then covid would never have been a big deal. thats all bull shit, this is an air borne virus, it escapes your mask as soon as you spend longer with people in a closed space. this is one of those situations where we humans have to understand that we are not all powerful and the smallest thing can bring us down. not matter which moron sits atop the mountain. we swiss have a great logical sensible government and we still have some of the highest case numbers in the world right now. maybe the vaccine will help, but thats it, nothing else except warmer weather. a new leader certainly won't make any difference. as long as 1 person is spreading covid to more then 1 other you have an exponential problem. how many people live alone? how many in groups? thats the problem and it's impossible to solve without literally splitting families apart. yes closing restaurants, clubs and gyms will help, but the main driver is the family units and there is absolutely nothing you can do about that without bringing in tyranny worse then any covid could be.
                              Face masks reduce the risk of spreading large Covid-linked droplets when speaking or coughing by up to 99.9 percent
                              Large respiratory droplets -- which act like projectiles before being pulled toward the ground by gravity -- are thought to be the main driver of SARS-CoV-2 transmission, he noted.
                              https://news.yahoo.com/masks-block-9...131416084.html

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                                Originally posted by Chi13 View Post
                                Face masks reduce the risk of spreading large Covid-linked droplets when speaking or coughing by up to 99.9 percent
                                Large respiratory droplets -- which act like projectiles before being pulled toward the ground by gravity -- are thought to be the main driver of SARS-CoV-2 transmission, he noted.
                                https://news.yahoo.com/masks-block-9...131416084.html

                                It would be helpful if the CDC could provide guidelines for

                                the age old practice of

                                Picking it and Flicking it.
                                Never Under-estimate the Psychopathic-ness of a Politician

                                who is in Save the Children Mode.

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