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    #91
    I always thought if you break Lodge confidentiality then it’s “ off with your tongue at low tide etc,etc,,,,,
    Strange thread for a Cannabis forum but each to there own,,,,,s2

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      #92
      Originally posted by WaxyTaxi
      When I showed your posts to a friend of mine who is also a Freemason he was very disappointed and worried. He said he will have to show this thread to his brothers.

      I wonder what made him so mad?
      That! Doesn't surprise me

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        #93
        Originally posted by WaxyTaxi
        i know some freemasons that are pretty cool, some of them down in the D are not as wealthy but humble and very smart, others very rich and like to show off, usually like to drink a lot, either way its not the craft that makes the mason, its the choices a person makes that represents the craft they chose.

        I look at cannabis like our own fraternity, no matter color, race, religion, cannabis brings us all together in a very groovy way

        except membership is free and there are no secrets haha

        No secrets unless you're asking hash makers for some tips lmao

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            #95
            Vanilla Dutch,

            When are you all going to accept the Prince Hall masons as full brothers?
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              #96
              Originally posted by Klompen View Post
              Vanilla Dutch,

              When are you all going to accept the Prince Hall masons as full brothers?
              Masons and KKK have history that goes back to the US civil war .

              KKK was formed by the rich to protect against the freed slaves .

              I will let folks work the rest out for themselves ...
              Such is life ...

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                #97
                Originally posted by Elmer Bud View Post
                Masons and KKK have history that goes back to the US civil war .

                KKK was formed by the rich to protect against the freed slaves .

                I will let folks work the rest out for themselves ...
                I do find it pretty fascinating that General Clinton's army in the South was going around freeing slaves and they turned some of them into masons and thus Prince Hall Lodge. They're tied to the British masons still from what I understand but I think even there they aren't entirely embraced.
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by WelderDan View Post
                  At least half of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Freemasons. A number of US presidents were Masons. Washington DC is loaded with Mason symbolism. The street layout around the Capitol is a Masonic design. US paper currency also has Masonic symbolism, such as the pyramid and the all seeing eye. The Capitol building has a lot of Masonic themed artwork.

                  The Masons have a local center that offers free oxygen therapy in the form of a Hyperbaric chamber.

                  The Shriners are a Masonic order that operates Hospitals for Children and provide services regardless of a persons ability to pay.
                  It is true that Masons (by which I mean Freemasons and not brick-layers) are involved in many charitable works.

                  It is also true that Masonry is a ‘school of light’ - and that *every* secret society has been abused, if not genuinely corrupted over time.

                  Nothing about the ideals or principles of Masonry tells us anything about the individual Mason...only the individual can do that: “by their fruits shall he know them”. The story of a 40-foot-tall god-man of flesh and comedy...I have spent much of my life studying subjects that cross, or intersect, with Masonic teachings and interests, and it was a conversation I had with my dad that started me down that path...but nothing has ever been suggested to me as preposterous as a flesh-and-blood giant god of comedy....

                  Originally posted by White Beard View Post
                  I was around Masons my whole life: they were very powerful in the Segregated South.
                  Originally posted by Elmer Bud View Post
                  Masons and KKK have history that goes back to the US civil war.
                  I mentioned my family connection: my father was initiated by his father, who was initiated by his father, and may have gone farther back, but no records and none living...but as I understand it, such things were traditional among some families. I wondered for many years how an itinerant traveling salesman in the Deep South during the depression, with only a third-grade education, ended up owning a comfortable bungalow, many properties, a prominent gravesite - a gold watch and an annuity from the railroad - and a 33d degree Mason.

                  Consequently, I have my own suspicions about my grandfather’s Masonic connections & the old-boy network that ruled the South after reconstruction, strengthened by fragments of family history & my knowledge of modern events.

                  Whether or not any institutional corruption resulted (should my guesses be accurate), I think ties in with Klompen’s question about Prince Hall Masonry. We might also ask if the Eastern Star will remain what it is: a “ladies’ auxiliary”.
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Klompen View Post
                    I do find it pretty fascinating that General Clinton's army in the South was going around freeing slaves and they turned some of them into masons and thus Prince Hall Lodge. They're tied to the British masons still from what I understand but I think even there they aren't entirely embraced.

                    War of Independence different situation to Civil War .
                    Englishman creating black Masons .
                    Such is life ...

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                      Originally posted by Elmer Bud View Post
                      War of Independence different situation to Civil War .
                      Englishman creating black Masons .
                      General Clinton was the commander of the Southern forces of the British army. He was basically kicking the crap out of the colonials, and had his peers been as successful as he was they probably would have won the war.

                      Its hard to say why the British freed slaves and made them masons. I'm sure there's a story or two about it, but who knows?
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                        - so that's 1825 when the British were getting busy trying to abolish slavery - throughout it's 'Dominions' - the history of black masons starts 50 years or more before that date -

                        Freemasonry as an organization for black men in America begins with Prince Hall who was the first black man made a Mason in America, March 6, 1775. There were black Masons here, mariners and others, who were made masons elsewhere. There were two types of Masons in early America, one white and one black.

                        Slavery was a legal institution. Separation of the races was the norm and there was little if any social intermingling between them. Both began before our nation was born. One grew out of the need to socialize and extend charity. The other came from the need to organize and to advocate for social justice.

                        Freemasonry is supposed to be Universal and regard all men as brothers. It is interesting to see how this principle affected the activity of these two diverse groups during the formative years of our nation. Remember, from remarks made by our previous speaker, there were two sets of white Masons, the Moderns and the Ancients, They did not unite until after the war.

                        The story of how Prince Hall was refused admission into Masonic lodges among the Colonist, and then turned to an Irish Military Lodge of the British Army, where he and 14 other black men were made Masons on Castle William Island, is an irony. It speaks of the difficult choices Prince Hall had to make in pursuing his vision of freeing his people. When the Military lodge he belonged to moved away during the war, he and his other members were left without a lodge. They were given a “permit” to operate, which is like a Lodge under dispensation. It allowed them to walk on St Johns day and bury their dead, but could do no other Masonic work.

                        They named the lodge African Lodge #1. After several years, Prince Hall, by chance, applied to the original source of Freemasonry, the Grand Lodge of England. He was granted a charter and was appointed Master of the lodge. The charter, dated the 29th day of September, 1784, designated African Lodge, number #459 on the register of the Grand Lodge of England, made its members a Regular Lodge of Free and Accepted Masons.

                        Lodges or Grand Lodges in America, after the war, broke away from the Grand Lodge of England. The two white groups in Massachusetts joined together forming the Grand Lodge of Massachusetts and declared themselves independent of England. They did not include African Lodge whose charter came directly from England.

                        My understanding of the term “The Universality of Freemasonry” is a concept where all masons are one family, without regard to nations. This was interpreted to mean the lodges in America had no reason to separate from the Grand Lodge of England, but they did. Think of the implications this presented to Prince Hall and his Lodge. It made them the only lodge, or Provincial Grand Lodge, belonging to the Grand Lodge of England in America. Did this make or constitute Prince Hall a Provincial Grand Master? Remember, in 1733, Henry Price had formed the first Lodge, and Provincial Grand Lodge in Massachusetts, simultaneously, from 18 men.

                        https://freemasoninformation.com/201...an-freemasons/

                        *The Somersett Case in 1772, in which a fugitive slave was freed with the judgement that slavery did not exist under English common law, helped launch the British movement to abolish slavery.



                        Originally posted by Klompen View Post
                        General Clinton was the commander of the Southern forces of the British army. He was basically kicking the crap out of the colonials, and had his peers been as successful as he was they probably would have won the war.

                        Its hard to say why the British freed slaves and made them masons. I'm sure there's a story or two about it, but who knows?
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                            Would you ever join up with the scientologists and become a super clique?


                            And is Prince Andrew one? Coz my mum told me he is and he hasn't done himself many favours recently?
                            Was Epstein one? And also if he was, was it you lot that offed him?


                            Also have you lot expanded in to China yet?

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                                Originally posted by Stizo View Post
                                Would you ever join up with the scientologists and become a super clique?


                                And is Prince Andrew one? Coz my mum told me he is and he hasn't done himself many favours recently?
                                Was Epstein one? And also if he was, was it you lot that offed him?


                                Also have you lot expanded in to China yet?

                                good question, id add do you think the masons could have had an hand in the Kenedy assasination after the issue of secret societys was raised?

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